souggy

You can in a few years when the U.S. is close to declaring bankruptcy and liquidate all their military hardware.

Get your ICBM for four dorrah!

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Beowulf

If a nuke goes off in our midst, will anyone hear it?

Banjo

I'll keep an eye out for it in the upcoming Canadian Tire flyers.

Banjo

In the midst of what?

More details please before I can give you an answer.

souggy

I would be dead before I even see the flash.

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rockdrummer

If a bear shits in the woods and nobody is there to smell it, will it stink?

GrendelQ

At 282 db? Not for long.

Oceanbreeze

OK, seriously. There is.

Locking this thread would definitely put an end to the crazy discussion; as well as the topic in general. I say we just do that!

We've discussed this in a circular motion and what did we learn? The obvious.

There is no cure. Therefore, the best way to mitigate hearing loss is to give the person all the tools necessary to live life as they see fit.

It's stupid to think that the deaf live in a vacuum. They must interact with the hearing to some degree; so a full toolbox approach is the BEST WAY to equip the deaf with what they need to get along in most situations.

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GrendelQ

The OP asked what each of us might consider to be requirements for something to be called a "cure" in the future, given that we've all agreed that HAs and CIs are NOT a cure now. A whole range of answers have come in with no apparent consensus. Yours is just one of many valid opinions.

I think that's a pretty interesting result in itself. If you don't find it of interest, you don't need to feel obligated to read through or follow the conversation. Are you really suggesting a thread be locked just because everyone doesn't agree with one another, or with you? There would be a whole lot of thread locking going on.

deafgal001

I think it more of disagreeing about something that is offtopic. Like disgreeing of if someone attempted to bring down the credibility of anyone or not.

GrendelQ

Agreed. I've noticed that some will inevitably attempt to kill a thread by dropping a bomb to escalate the emotion (figuratively, not like Souggy's nuke ) -- but seems to me that cooler heads have prevailed in this thread despite quite a few detonations, and it's come back to the original question pretty faithfully.

rockdrummer

No worries. I am not gunning for anyone. I keep hearing about this majority but in reality I have never seen it. Not here, not on other boards and not in real life. Even other deaf people disagree when the majority card is played. And I am sorry for being off topic so much in this thread. I am truly a bad person.

deafskeptic

I think it's time to drop a nuke on this thread.

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GrendelQ

Me neither.

Getting at what we each might think of as a "cure" is another way of looking at what deafness means to each of us. Wide range of responses in this group alone.

Oceanbreeze

Funny guys!

Seriously, though. I do think it's time to lock it up.

We can wonder about cures all we want to, but, that's not reality. It's best not waste your time supposing or dreaming of something that's a long way off, if a cure every comes at all; especially when there's more important things going on in the immediate future.

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rockdrummer

could be a reality. What about stem cell therapy or even transplants or cloning. All feasable "cures"

Oceanbreeze

Not so fast. That's not a cure for every cause of deafness; only the ones that are caused by a genetic mutation.

It's also still a ways off. I'm not buying into the idea that it's right on the horizen. I seriously doubt that it is.

With stem cell therapy and transplatation comes significant risks, also. Think about it. Would you subject your son to intense chemotherapy and radiation so your son could be transplanted or be given stem cells, because, that's what would have to happen. You would have to basically knock out the person's existing immune system, and infuse the stem cells and HOPE they graft. With a transplant, you'd have to give the person immuno-suppressives which they'd have to take for life to prevent rejection of the transplanted cochlea.

Sounds like a hell of a risk to take to restore one's hearing; especially for a child.

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rockdrummer

Never said it was a cure all

GrendelQ

Nanostructures used in utero to repair hair cell damage during development or protect at risk cells during medical treatment might prevent deafness.

GrendelQ

That's not exactly how it works (some people are proceeding with stem cell therapy -- right now, without chemo or radiation) but no, I would definitely not undertake experimental treatment. It would have to be well-researched, FDA-apprved, etc. for me to pursue it. But that certainly hasn't stopped me from thinking ahead. Future technology, surgical methods and potential "cures" were a very important consideration for my family when we went ahead with a second CI.

drphil

I would assume the "cure to deafness" being "way out in the future" will be of NO value to anyone reading this thread-now-correct? Why get excited?

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posts from hell

Alright, I'll get on the top of that soon.

drphil

PFH: a better position-catch the H bomb.

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shel90

Yes, from being oppressed by hearing people.

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souggy

Wirelessly posted

Why he need to catch it if he's on it?

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deafdyke

And stem cells are still really up there. I think people expolarated a universal cure for hearing loss b/c someone noticed that it was listed as a condition that could be treated by stem cells. I think it started when someone undergoing stem cell treatment for MS noticed his hearing improved. Autoimmune hearing loss can be a SYMPTOM of MS...Stem cells treat autoimmune conditions. It does not mean it would treat hearing loss in general.
Quite frankley, I think we need to put a cure for hearing loss on the very back burner, and concentrate on cures for things like Alizerheimer's, profound and severe intellecutcal disabilty, mental illness , kidney and liver failure and all sorts of issues.

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