The Naida saga continues...

DeafDoc1 · 10-29-2009, 07:03 PM

I have had my Naidas for just over a year. Twice the left one has gone "dead" when it is touched or tapped, requiring me to open and close the battery cover to get it to turn on. Phonak tried once to fix it, then replaced it last Spring. Well, now my right one is doing the same thing. Saw my audie today who is sending it in for repairs. She has all the settings on my aids maxed out, and I barely hear environmental sounds. In fact, I don't think I hear anything on the left anymore. She said it was moot if I'd lost the last remnants of my hearing, and said it wasn't even worth doing an audiogram again. Good--I hate audiograms. Bummer--bye bye hearing.

On the flip side, I've met an incredible new family and community of Deaf/deaf, HOH, terps, CODAs, and ADers. Thanks to all of you for the support on this journey.

Bottesini · 10-29-2009, 10:10 PM

See your life was enriched by us! Now go tell the latedeafened people the same.

deafdude1 · 10-29-2009, 10:46 PM

Been a while since I saw you posting. Do you have any plans to get CI someday? Id get CI if my ears went dead, but that's my choice. If one of your ears is dead, could you use the HA that isn't defective in your better ear? What are sounds like in your worse ear or is it just vibrotactile? Is your better ear still getting worse? As for audiograms, I love getting those, haha.

DeafDoc1 · 10-30-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

See your life was enriched by us! Now go tell the latedeafened people the same.

Thanks, Bott.

I've met some really supportive people through ALDA (Association of Late Deafened Adults) who feel the same as I do. I think it just takes a longer time for some people to come to that understanding...and some never will.

DeafDoc1 · 10-30-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdude1

Been a while since I saw you posting. Do you have any plans to get CI someday? Id get CI if my ears went dead, but that's my choice. If one of your ears is dead, could you use the HA that isn't defective in your better ear? What are sounds like in your worse ear or is it just vibrotactile? Is your better ear still getting worse? As for audiograms, I love getting those, haha.

Hi, DD. Yes, took a break from AD for a time, too many personal health issues to deal with.

No, I'm not really interested in a CI, at least right now. I think it's a great technology for some, but not for me. And my worse ear may be more vibration than sound perception. It's pretty useless. My better ear is barely better. I basically only wear my HAs to work now. Never when I'm out with Deaf friends, terps, etc.

JennyB · 10-30-2009, 10:30 PM

I totally know how frustrating it is to have that understanding and the lose it. The frustrating part of me is that some days I have the understanding and other days I don't. My hearing fluctuates and it drives me absolutely nuts. I wish my ears would either just call it quits for good!

My naida problems have subsided a bit, but my FM cuts in and out all the time when I am using it which drives me nuts. THey haven't spontaneously turned off in a while though. I probably shouldn't say that....

ljjehl · 11-01-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

I totally know how frustrating it is to have that understanding and the lose it. The frustrating part of me is that some days I have the understanding and other days I don't. My hearing fluctuates and it drives me absolutely nuts. I wish my ears would either just call it quits for good!

My naida problems have subsided a bit, but my FM cuts in and out all the time when I am using it which drives me nuts. THey haven't spontaneously turned off in a while though. I probably shouldn't say that....

There may be a current update regarding FM and how it works in the SoundFlow program. I am waiting for my audi to update her iPFG software to version 2.5 so I can get my update....

Let me rephrase this...There is a current update

JennyB · 11-01-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ljjehl

There may be a current update regarding FM and how it works in the SoundFlow program. I am waiting for my audi to update her iPFG software to version 2.5 so I can get my update....

Let me rephrase this...There is a current update

Ah- but here is the thing...I don't use EasyFM, which means it cuts in and out in an FM program!

ljjehl · 11-01-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

Ah- but here is the thing...I don't use EasyFM, which means it cuts in and out in an FM program!

I don't know if this will help the situation or not, as I know it's supposed to fix the SoundFlow situation (the old firmware allegedly broke my right FM receiver). I believe that the FM receivers shut down in 40?? seconds by default if there is no sound available to save on battery power. Someone said the Smartlink+ fixed this problem, but I do not have the new transmitter to figure this out. I thought you were planning to get it? If so, how much different is it compared to the old model?

JennyB · 11-01-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ljjehl

I don't know if this will help the situation or not, as I know it's supposed to fix the SoundFlow situation (the old firmware allegedly broke my right FM receiver). I believe that the FM receivers shut down in 40?? seconds by default if there is no sound available to save on battery power. Someone said the Smartlink+ fixed this problem, but I do not have the new transmitter to figure this out. I thought you were planning to get it? If so, how much different is it compared to the old model?

Yeah, I have the SmartLink+. It is the integrated receivers I think because it doesn't cut out when I use the neckloop.The FM can be on and someone can be takling away but it still cuts in and out. It's a pain in the ass.

I notice a difference in clarity and cutting out the noise with the new FM.

ljjehl · 11-02-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

Yeah, I have the SmartLink+. It is the integrated receivers I think because it doesn't cut out when I use the neckloop.The FM can be on and someone can be takling away but it still cuts in and out. It's a pain in the ass.

I notice a difference in clarity and cutting out the noise with the new FM.

It should not cut in and out while voices and noise is still active.....not sure why that is happening. Maybe an email to Phonak HQ is in order, or another visit to your audi?

djchur · 11-02-2009, 05:05 PM

I have a Smartlink SX which cuts out after 40 seconds, but only if there is no sound input, which can be an absolute pain sometimes. If yours cuts out whilst someone is talking, or there is noise, there is probably a fault with your fm system or receivers.

The new Smartlink+ claims not to cut off audio input even when it is silent, I was looking at it on the Phonak website. Unfortunately I can't afford an upgrade.

DeafDoc1 · 11-05-2009, 09:14 PM

So the audie's office called for me to pick up my Naida, it's back from Phonak. When I arrived, my audie didn't know it had been returned. She asked me to wait while she checked it out. 10 mins later she came out and told me it's dead. She said she shocked her students because she started swearing out of frustration. While I was there they gave me a loaner, and when I put it in, it shut off. I handed that one to the audie too, but it was better with a new ear hook. Still don't know why it randomly shuts off. Maybe I'm a carrier of Naida death...

Anyway, my clear one is back in it's overnight box back to Phonak yet again. I wish I could get frequent flier points for as much as that thing has flown!

Bottesini · 11-05-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafDoc1

So the audie's office called for me to pick up my Naida, it's back from Phonak. When I arrived, my audie didn't know it had been returned. She asked me to wait while she checked it out. 10 mins later she came out and told me it's dead. She said she shocked her students because she started swearing out of frustration. While I was there they gave me a loaner, and when I put it in, it shut off. I handed that one to the audie too, but it was better with a new ear hook. Still don't know why it randomly shuts off. Maybe I'm a carrier of Naida death...

Anyway, my clear one is back in it's overnight box back to Phonak yet again. I wish I could get frequent flier points for as much as that thing has flown!

There was Typhoid Mary.

But what would be the appropriate name for one who kills hearing aids just by touch?

faire_jour · 11-05-2009, 10:10 PM

I've heard that you can't use just any battery with the naida. That the hearing aid is weird and that certain batteries can cause it to randomly turn off.

Just a thought.

ljjehl · 11-05-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by faire_jour

I've heard that you can't use just any battery with the naida. That the hearing aid is weird and that certain batteries can cause it to randomly turn off.

Just a thought.

I do....I use Walgreens and Rayovac with mine.....

ljjehl · 11-05-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafDoc1

So the audie's office called for me to pick up my Naida, it's back from Phonak. When I arrived, my audie didn't know it had been returned. She asked me to wait while she checked it out. 10 mins later she came out and told me it's dead. She said she shocked her students because she started swearing out of frustration. While I was there they gave me a loaner, and when I put it in, it shut off. I handed that one to the audie too, but it was better with a new ear hook. Still don't know why it randomly shuts off. Maybe I'm a carrier of Naida death...

Anyway, my clear one is back in it's overnight box back to Phonak yet again. I wish I could get frequent flier points for as much as that thing has flown!

If they can't fix the aid properly soon, they should be replacing it with a new one....that's what happened with my Phonak receiver. Three times the charm (replacement)

oldbob · 11-05-2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faire_jour

I've heard that you can't use just any battery with the naida. That the hearing aid is weird and that certain batteries can cause it to randomly turn off.

Just a thought.

If yours is the UP model, which require the 675 battery, it may cut out when the battery gets low. Mine do. I have started using the 675 for the CI and get about 7-8 days before my HA's start to cut out or do other wierd things. Have never heard the low battery alarm.

ljjehl · 11-05-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oldbob

If yours is the UP model, which require the 675 battery, it may cut out when the battery gets low. Mine do. I have started using the 675 for the CI and get about 7-8 days before my HA's start to cut out or do other wierd things. Have never heard the low battery alarm.

well, it depends on how much I use the FM receivers. I normally get 13 days out of the 675 batteries, but if I use the FM extensively, it may drop a couple of days.....

oldbob · 11-05-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ljjehl

well, it depends on how much I use the FM receivers. I normally get 13 days out of the 675 batteries, but if I use the FM extensively, it may drop a couple of days.....

I had 2 Phonak FM rec. on my sonics (using an adap kit

) and they really took the batteries down. Now using 1 FM rec. in my iCom and it takes the iCom down in about 10 hrs.

JennyB · 11-05-2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faire_jour

I've heard that you can't use just any battery with the naida. That the hearing aid is weird and that certain batteries can cause it to randomly turn off.

Just a thought.

PowerOne work best in my opinion, they are the same as Seimens too. Rayovac kills mine.

JennyB · 11-05-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafDoc1

So the audie's office called for me to pick up my Naida, it's back from Phonak. When I arrived, my audie didn't know it had been returned. She asked me to wait while she checked it out. 10 mins later she came out and told me it's dead. She said she shocked her students because she started swearing out of frustration. While I was there they gave me a loaner, and when I put it in, it shut off. I handed that one to the audie too, but it was better with a new ear hook. Still don't know why it randomly shuts off. Maybe I'm a carrier of Naida death...

Anyway, my clear one is back in it's overnight box back to Phonak yet again. I wish I could get frequent flier points for as much as that thing has flown!

I so feel your pain. I think I have this Naida death as well

The ear hooks are a pain in the butt! My audiologist told me that those little annoying white filters that get clogged with moister are there to dampen sounds around 1500Hz or something along those lines. If you can't hear at 1500Hz, take them out and it may stop them from cutting out so much...One thought.

oldbob · 11-06-2009, 09:45 AM

The Phonak rep took the filters out of my Naida's at our first session. I guess they arn't really needed.

DeafDoc1 · 11-13-2009, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faire_jour

I've heard that you can't use just any battery with the naida. That the hearing aid is weird and that certain batteries can cause it to randomly turn off.

Just a thought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljjehl

I do....I use Walgreens and Rayovac with mine.....

Tried Rayovac, Energizer, and Duracell. I don't think it's related to the battery itself.

DeafDoc1 · 11-13-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldbob

If yours is the UP model, which require the 675 battery, it may cut out when the battery gets low. Mine do. I have started using the 675 for the CI and get about 7-8 days before my HA's start to cut out or do other wierd things. Have never heard the low battery alarm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljjehl

well, it depends on how much I use the FM receivers. I normally get 13 days out of the 675 batteries, but if I use the FM extensively, it may drop a couple of days.....

8-10 days recently. SOMETIMES i get the warning, sometimes I don't. I'm not sure if it doesn't beep or if I just don't hear it.

DeafDoc1 · 11-13-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljjehl

If they can't fix the aid properly soon, they should be replacing it with a new one....that's what happened with my Phonak receiver. Three times the charm (replacement)

They've replaced it once, not sure what they're doing this time, but they've had it more than a week. Typically I get it back in 5 days or less by overnight delivery.

DeafDoc1 · 11-13-2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

There was Typhoid Mary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

But what would be the appropriate name for one who kills hearing aids just by touch?

Deaf???

Bottesini · 11-13-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafDoc1

Deaf???

I was thinking more along the lines of "Hearing Aid Hannah."

DeafDoc1 · Yesterday, 10:16 AM

It's back!
It works!

For how long???

deafdude1 · Yesterday, 01:01 PM

Have you considered trying a different HA, such as Oticon sumo? The other option is if your HA stops working to simply stop wearing HAs since you have almost no residual hearing left and get no benefit anyway.

10-29-2009, 07:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
DeafDoc1 hiding in plain sight Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,019	The Naida saga continues... I have had my Naidas for just over a year. Twice the left one has gone "dead" when it is touched or tapped, requiring me to open and close the battery cover to get it to turn on. Phonak tried once to fix it, then replaced it last Spring. Well, now my right one is doing the same thing. Saw my audie today who is sending it in for repairs. She has all the settings on my aids maxed out, and I barely hear environmental sounds. In fact, I don't think I hear anything on the left anymore. She said it was moot if I'd lost the last remnants of my hearing, and said it wasn't even worth doing an audiogram again. Good--I hate audiograms. Bummer--bye bye hearing. On the flip side, I've met an incredible new family and community of Deaf/deaf, HOH, terps, CODAs, and ADers. Thanks to all of you for the support on this journey. __________________ What's up, Doc?

10-29-2009, 10:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bottesini Bodhar agus leath dall Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Middle of dog pack Posts: 16,045	See your life was enriched by us! Now go tell the latedeafened people the same. __________________ It's a joke Nathan!

10-29-2009, 10:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
deafdude1 Getting stem cells ~2011! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,051 Blog Entries: 1	Been a while since I saw you posting. Do you have any plans to get CI someday? Id get CI if my ears went dead, but that's my choice. If one of your ears is dead, could you use the HA that isn't defective in your better ear? What are sounds like in your worse ear or is it just vibrotactile? Is your better ear still getting worse? As for audiograms, I love getting those, haha. __________________

10-30-2009, 10:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
JennyB Deaf Activist! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 783	I totally know how frustrating it is to have that understanding and the lose it. The frustrating part of me is that some days I have the understanding and other days I don't. My hearing fluctuates and it drives me absolutely nuts. I wish my ears would either just call it quits for good! My naida problems have subsided a bit, but my FM cuts in and out all the time when I am using it which drives me nuts. THey haven't spontaneously turned off in a while though. I probably shouldn't say that.... __________________ Queer, Deaf, radical disability theorist, feminist, activist, advocate, and linguist. Fear me! Jenny~B http://journysofadeafgirl.blogspot.com/

11-05-2009, 09:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
DeafDoc1 hiding in plain sight Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,019	So the audie's office called for me to pick up my Naida, it's back from Phonak. When I arrived, my audie didn't know it had been returned. She asked me to wait while she checked it out. 10 mins later she came out and told me it's dead. She said she shocked her students because she started swearing out of frustration. While I was there they gave me a loaner, and when I put it in, it shut off. I handed that one to the audie too, but it was better with a new ear hook. Still don't know why it randomly shuts off. Maybe I'm a carrier of Naida death... Anyway, my clear one is back in it's overnight box back to Phonak yet again. I wish I could get frequent flier points for as much as that thing has flown! __________________ What's up, Doc?

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11-02-2009, 05:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
djchur Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 187	I have a Smartlink SX which cuts out after 40 seconds, but only if there is no sound input, which can be an absolute pain sometimes. If yours cuts out whilst someone is talking, or there is noise, there is probably a fault with your fm system or receivers. The new Smartlink+ claims not to cut off audio input even when it is silent, I was looking at it on the Phonak website. Unfortunately I can't afford an upgrade.

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faire_jour Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,694	I've heard that you can't use just any battery with the naida. That the hearing aid is weird and that certain batteries can cause it to randomly turn off. Just a thought.

11-06-2009, 09:45 AM	#23 (permalink)
oldbob Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11	The Phonak rep took the filters out of my Naida's at our first session. I guess they arn't really needed.

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DeafDoc1 hiding in plain sight Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,019	It's back! It works! For how long??? __________________ What's up, Doc?

Yesterday, 01:01 PM	#30 (permalink)
deafdude1 Getting stem cells ~2011! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,051 Blog Entries: 1	Have you considered trying a different HA, such as Oticon sumo? The other option is if your HA stops working to simply stop wearing HAs since you have almost no residual hearing left and get no benefit anyway. __________________

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