Info on STEM CELLS from scientific source - Page 9

jillio · 09-21-2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ref74

This is not entirely correct. Sensorineural hearing losses are an ensemble of mulfunctions, involving the sensory structure (hairy cells for the most part, all the structure of the cochlea more generally) and/or the neural transmission of the signal to the brain. Actually the acoustic nerve transports the acoustic stimulation kept by the cochlear structures to the brain, it is not an actual part of the brain.
For the rest I agree, damage of the nerve is not so rare.

I did not state that the 8th cranial nerve was a part of the brain. It actually transmits stimuli to the brain stem, which in turn, relays that stimuli to the auditory cortex where, in individuals with normal auditory and neurological function, the stimuli is interpreted into a meaningful message. And there are cases of sensorineural losses in which damage to the 8th cranial nerve is the only pathology involved.

neuro · 09-22-2009, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

The bolded is a scientifically innacurrate statement.

"Scientist and Medical researchers believe that stem cell treatments have the potential to cure any known human diseases. This type of cell therapy introduces new cells into the damaged tissue to treat a disease or injury. Because stem cells are the master cells of the human body, they can produce copies of themselves and many other types of cells. This ability for stem cells to self-renew or regenerate offers a large potential to replace diseased and damaged human tissues in the body without the risk of rejection.

Stem cell treatment is considered to be the revolution of cellular medicine in the 21st century. Thousands of patients around the globe have already benefitted from using stem cell delivered safely by skilled and certified physicians. Diseases once considered incurable are responding well to stem cell treatment and are restoring hope to patients who thought they had lost their lives forever.

Some of the diseases that can be treated using stem cell treatment include brain damage, cancer, spinal cord injury, heart damage, haematopoiesis (blood cell formation), diabetes, orthopedics, deafness, blindness or vision impairment, neural and behavioral birth defects, Crohn?s disease and many more".
source: Stem Cell Treatment; the 21st Century Medical Breakthrough

neuro · 09-22-2009, 11:26 AM

"Qingdao Chengyang People's Hospital Stem Cell Treatment and Rehabilitation Center to successfully treat patients with sensorineural hearing loss you can telephone consultation about 0532:80653989"
source: Google Traductor

jillio · 09-22-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuro

"Scientist and Medical researchers believe that stem cell treatments have the potential to cure any known human diseases. This type of cell therapy introduces new cells into the damaged tissue to treat a disease or injury. Because stem cells are the master cells of the human body, they can produce copies of themselves and many other types of cells. This ability for stem cells to self-renew or regenerate offers a large potential to replace diseased and damaged human tissues in the body without the risk of rejection.

Stem cell treatment is considered to be the revolution of cellular medicine in the 21st century. Thousands of patients around the globe have already benefitted from using stem cell delivered safely by skilled and certified physicians. Diseases once considered incurable are responding well to stem cell treatment and are restoring hope to patients who thought they had lost their lives forever.

Some of the diseases that can be treated using stem cell treatment include brain damage, cancer, spinal cord injury, heart damage, haematopoiesis (blood cell formation), diabetes, orthopedics, deafness, blindness or vision impairment, neural and behavioral birth defects, Crohn?s disease and many more".
source: Stem Cell Treatment; the 21st Century Medical Breakthrough

Key words: "have the potential." You seem to consistently read this as "can right now."

webexplorer · 09-22-2009, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by set2

Web,

If you do a search for Beike biotechnology go to the web site and then click on contact us. You can ask questions in the comment section. You don't have to fill out all of the information that comes before the comment section.

Nah, I am not interested to go to China period. It is well-known for hidden information that we haven't heard about. I am not making off the subject. Please understand that our drug industrials and FDA say bad things about China or other countries which is not true. Some of your resources (ADers) that showed us the links are very good. If we keep going and going to find more researches, then they are wasting our time because they have not proven yet even it is not final ones. I don't care about the FDA's policy because it wastes a lot of our time.

Can you imagine that it cost millions of dollars for the labs to do the research annually? How much it would cost one lab employee to do on the research and how many groups are in the lab? How much the equipment costs? All things in the lab work that does not tell us the exact price. I would say that 80 percent of money that goes to the political and private owners of the labs. Twenty percent of the money goes into the lab budget which is not probably enough fund. The documents that we read have a lot of details from the links, but they did not mention about the budget problem.
Another issue is the patents for variety cures that would take many years for the approvals which is so ridiculous. I found about it from PBS a few years ago.

This is important that you should know: A perfect example of Jerry Lewis who helped to run his highest dirtiest charity business for years. In fact, Jerry has been keeping 85 percent of the charity money in his pocket legally. Many groups from their charity finally aware of this problem, and I am really happy that they are finally paying attention of what was happening with their money that was supposed to help people for many different cures.

The Salvation Army is well-known for honest in the business to help many poor people and especially labs for the cures.

Off the subject: Excuse me, who is really neuro? Does ref74 works at a medical lab?

neuro · 09-23-2009, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

Nah, I am not interested to go to China period. It is well-known for hidden information that we haven't heard about. I am not making off the subject. Please understand that our drug industrials and FDA say bad things about China or other countries which is not true. Some of your resources (ADers) that showed us the links are very good. If we keep going and going to find more researches, then they are wasting our time because they have not proven yet even it is not final ones. I don't care about the FDA's policy because it wastes a lot of our time.

Can you imagine that it cost millions of dollars for the labs to do the research annually? How much it would cost one lab employee to do on the research and how many groups are in the lab? How much the equipment costs? All things in the lab work that does not tell us the exact price. I would say that 80 percent of money that goes to the political and private owners of the labs. Twenty percent of the money goes into the lab budget which is not probably enough fund. The documents that we read have a lot of details from the links, but they did not mention about the budget problem.
Another issue is the patents for variety cures that would take many years for the approvals which is so ridiculous. I found about it from PBS a few years ago.

This is important that you should know: A perfect example of Jerry Lewis who helped to run his highest dirtiest charity business for years. In fact, Jerry has been keeping 85 percent of the charity money in his pocket legally. Many groups from their charity finally aware of this problem, and I am really happy that they are finally paying attention of what was happening with their money that was supposed to help people for many different cures.

The Salvation Army is well-known for honest in the business to help many poor people and especially labs for the cures.

Off the subject: Excuse me, who is really neuro? Does ref74 works at a medical lab?

hello, who am I, a person with hearing problems, who has hearing aids, and are interested in new developments, knowledge, improved or cured with stem cells, etc.
I have no link with laboratories, companies, businesses. Do you?

neuro · 09-23-2009, 06:34 AM

Mass Eye and Ear they regrew cochlea cilia using stem cells in mice??
"The good news for everyone is at Mass Eye and Ear they regrew cochlea cilia using stem cells in mice. It works too I hear.
Be years before it can be done on a human but it's actually been a couple years since they regrew the hairs in the mice. So it will happen".
source: Damaged hearing - Gearslutz.com

neuro · 09-23-2009, 08:29 AM

10-week old deaf infant underwent a Stem Cell procedure???

"It has been recorded in the United Kingdom (UK) that a 10-week old deaf infant underwent a Stem Cell procedure. Word is that the infant became able to hear. I misplaced documentation on this case but hope to locate it in the near future. One consideration: cost is really so low".
SOURCE: Aguabo / FDA: CI Stats – Dropout rates? Netripized’s rambling thoughts…

jillio · 09-23-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuro

10-week old deaf infant underwent a Stem Cell procedure???

"It has been recorded in the United Kingdom (UK) that a 10-week old deaf infant underwent a Stem Cell procedure. Word is that the infant became able to hear. I misplaced documentation on this case but hope to locate it in the near future. One consideration: cost is really so low".
SOURCE: Aguabo / FDA: CI Stats – Dropout rates? Netripized’s rambling thoughts…

Get back to us when you have scientific documentation.

neuro · 09-24-2009, 06:40 AM

Patent title: COMPOUNDS THAT ENHANCE ATOH1 EXPRESSION
Inventors: Lixin Qiao Albert Edge Gregory D. Cuny Sang-Jun Jeon
Kathleen Seyb Marcie Glicksman
Agents: FISH & RICHARDSON PC
Assignees: Massachusetts Eye & Ear Infirmary
Origin: MINNEAPOLIS, MN US

see COMPOUNDS THAT ENHANCE ATOH1 EXPRESSION - Patent - This invention generally provides compounds pharmaceutical compositions and methods for their use

source: COMPOUNDS THAT ENHANCE ATOH1 EXPRESSION - alt.support.hearing-loss | Grupos de Google

kokonut · 09-24-2009, 10:40 AM

WongTanLim3 Blog On Sensorineural Hearing Loss / Its Related Tinnitus Treatment Updates: Challenges

kokonut · 09-24-2009, 10:41 AM

http://www.nanobmi.com/images/OAD_Te..._June_2009.pdf

kokonut · 09-24-2009, 10:47 AM

WongTanLim3 Blog On Sensorineural Hearing Loss / Its Related Tinnitus Treatment Updates: Antibody Against Cancerous Stem Cell

neuro · 09-24-2009, 01:55 PM

Coalition for Regenerative Stem Cell Medicine (CRSCM)

"Human clinical studies involving the use of one's own cord blood stem cells are currently under way to explore treatment for diabetes, brain damage, spinal cord injuries, hearing loss and other regenerative applications".

source: Coalition for Regenerative Stem Cell Medicine (CRSCM) - JOIN OUR CAUSE

neuro · 09-25-2009, 08:52 AM

Path to cure for sensorineural hearing loss explained

Kokonut Pundit: Path to cure for sensorineural hearing loss explained

deafdude1 · 09-26-2009, 02:50 AM

Can you or anyone else try to get more audiograms(before and after) of any patient who got stem cells? By now, at least two dozen have gotten stem cells. We would like more results/evidence! Someone emailed a stem cell clinic in China that treated 4 patients and 3 of them improved an average of 20db and one got more than 30db improvement. That guy got so much improvement he could hear some sounds/speech unaided! I wonder how much of a loss he started with and what his final loss is now. Im guessing he was severely deaf(about 80db loss) and improved down to 40db loss which would give you 50% speech understanding unaided and aid you down to 0-10db easily.

Id also be interested if those stem cell centers in China and elsewhere believe stem cell technology will become more powerful for hearing loss in the near future(1, 2, 3 years) or if todays results are the best one can expect for a very long time(at least 10 years) I am not going to wait 10 years if todays results are as good as it gets for at least 10 years. Ill just go ahead with Phi4sius in the summer of 2010, take our 20db average improvement and be able to hear alot better with HAs. Then in 2020 or so, simply get more stem cells or some other more advanced procedure that can further improve hearing.

I want to know if they believe stem cells can be giving much more improvement in the near future(1, 2, 3 years) or will it be exactly the same as today's stem cells? I don't want to wait if I don't have to. I will only wait if results are expected to be much better in the near future. Otherwise ill just get my 20db average improvement which will make do for 10+ years till they find a better or different way to get me the rest of the way in improvement so I can hear well enough to rarely or never need HAs(40db or better unaided hearing)

neuro · 09-26-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafdude1

Can you or anyone else try to get more audiograms(before and after) of any patient who got stem cells? By now, at least two dozen have gotten stem cells. We would like more results/evidence! Someone emailed a stem cell clinic in China that treated 4 patients and 3 of them improved an average of 20db and one got more than 30db improvement. That guy got so much improvement he could hear some sounds/speech unaided! I wonder how much of a loss he started with and what his final loss is now. Im guessing he was severely deaf(about 80db loss) and improved down to 40db loss which would give you 50% speech understanding unaided and aid you down to 0-10db easily.

Id also be interested if those stem cell centers in China and elsewhere believe stem cell technology will become more powerful for hearing loss in the near future(1, 2, 3 years) or if todays results are the best one can expect for a very long time(at least 10 years) I am not going to wait 10 years if todays results are as good as it gets for at least 10 years. Ill just go ahead with Phi4sius in the summer of 2010, take our 20db average improvement and be able to hear alot better with HAs. Then in 2020 or so, simply get more stem cells or some other more advanced procedure that can further improve hearing.

I want to know if they believe stem cells can be giving much more improvement in the near future(1, 2, 3 years) or will it be exactly the same as today's stem cells? I don't want to wait if I don't have to. I will only wait if results are expected to be much better in the near future. Otherwise ill just get my 20db average improvement which will make do for 10+ years till they find a better or different way to get me the rest of the way in improvement so I can hear well enough to rarely or never need HAs(40db or better unaided hearing)

hi,
I agree with you, deafdude.
I think we are doing our best, seeking information. However, it also depends on them, for example Beike among others, to provide us information. The more information the better, for there would be more interested. But I think though
results, as they say positive, I think they're being cautious, perhaps because they are very experimental stage. China also has strong control, I read that should be controlling stem cell clinics, but for example Beike inspires more confidence because it is the leader in stem cells, and there are scientific or Western universities involved with this.
I think we look more and more information sharing, we hope to provide more information as well. We should be optimistic but also caution. You may also find commercial pressures that try to boycott the advancement of stem cells, I think.
For my part I will be very interested and involved in as far as possible to make it increasingly possible.

neuro · 09-26-2009, 02:50 PM

The Election + the Stem Cells Research

The Election + the Stem Cells Research - Mombu the Medicine Forum

neuro · 09-27-2009, 04:52 AM

H.R. 3293 – A Bill To Tackle Hearing Loss On Many Different Fronts

H.R. 3293 – A Bill To Tackle Hearing Loss On Many Different Fronts

neuro · 09-28-2009, 06:26 AM

GWUMC Events: "Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness"

"GWUMC Events
Events
Thursday, October 1, 2009
Month View | Week View | Day View
"Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear
Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness"
department: Medical Center Communications and Marketing
when: Thursday, 10/01/2009 (Noon - 1:00 PM)
where: Ross Hall: 401 Physio Conf Rm
who / speaker(s): Chunyu (Hunter) Cai & Kent Morest
details:

ANAT 221: Special Topics in Stem Cell Biology and Regenerative
Medicine & The department of Anatomy and Regenerative Biology Present:

Chunyu (Hunter) Cai & Kent Morest

"Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear
Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness"

Thursday, October 1st, 2009

ROSS HALL 401
12:00 p.m. - 1:00 pm
open to public: No"
source: Events • The George Washington University Medical Center

webexplorer · 09-28-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuro

GWUMC Events: "Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness"

"GWUMC Events
Events
Thursday, October 1, 2009
Month View | Week View | Day View
"Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear
Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness"
department: Medical Center Communications and Marketing
when: Thursday, 10/01/2009 (Noon - 1:00 PM)
where: Ross Hall: 401 Physio Conf Rm
who / speaker(s): Chunyu (Hunter) Cai & Kent Morest
details:

ANAT 221: Special Topics in Stem Cell Biology and Regenerative
Medicine & The department of Anatomy and Regenerative Biology Present:

Chunyu (Hunter) Cai & Kent Morest

"Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear
Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness"

Thursday, October 1st, 2009

ROSS HALL 401
12:00 p.m. - 1:00 pm
open to public: No"
source: Events • The George Washington University Medical Center

Is it only for doctors to attend the lecture? It says that it is not for a public - "Open to public: No."

jillio · 09-28-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

Is it only for doctors to attend the lecture? It says that it is not for a public - "Open to public: No."

Exactly. It is because it is still in the research phase, and they are reporting their research findings to the medical community. The treatment is not available to the general public.

Anyone else notice that this is sponsored by the dept of Communication and Marketing? Anyone else see sales pitch hiding in there?

Bramus · 09-28-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Exactly. It is because it is still in the research phase, and they are reporting their research findings to the medical community. The treatment is not available to the general public.

Anyone else notice that this is sponsored by the dept of Communication and Marketing? Anyone else see sales pitch hiding in there?

That's cause there's money to be made.

jillio · 09-28-2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bramus

That's cause there's money to be made.

Bingo.

webexplorer · 09-28-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Exactly. It is because it is still in the research phase, and they are reporting their research findings to the medical community. The treatment is not available to the general public.

Anyone else notice that this is sponsored by the dept of Communication and Marketing? Anyone else see sales pitch hiding in there?

Yes, I saw that word. You have sharp eyes!

neuro · 09-29-2009, 05:33 AM

"Cochlear Repair
According to an Italian research team publishing their findings in Cell Transplantation (17:6), hearing loss due to cochlear damage may be repaired by transplantation of human umbilical cord hematopoietic stem cells (HSC) since they show that a small number migrated to the damaged cochlea and repaired sensory hair cells and neurons".
source: Expecting A Baby

neuro · 09-30-2009, 10:18 AM

eurohear : Theoretical Training

http://www.graphicant.com/portfolio/...oklet_2009.pdf

neuro · 09-30-2009, 04:07 PM

another forum, pioneer of stem cells, referred to as stem cells treated by the total bilateral hearing loss. The clinic, he says, is in Mexico. I have no further information. I've only read the forum for stem cell pioneers.
see: ICMS Offshore guide now available - Stem Cell Pioneers

!"Clinic Name
Inbicto Ortholab AKA “The Ramirez Clinic” (Nepsis Institute affiliated)

Location
Tijuana, Mexico near the US-USA border

Cost
Ballpark: Bone marrow harvesting, lab processing & Intathecal infusion: $16-17KUSD, stereotactic implant $23-25K.

Patients Treated
900 including cord blood by Dr Ramirez (2003-Present)

Primary Stem Cell Type used
Autologous

Primary Stem Cell Type Classification
Bone Marrow multilineage progenitors, mesenchymals, etc.

Stem Cell Source:
Bone Marrow

Conditions Treated
Neurodegenerative (ALS, MS, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s ), cerebral palsy, TBI, osteoarthritis, spinal cord injury, kidney failure, bronchiectasis, Emphysema, some cardiovascular, bilateral total hearing loss (Hair cell related), degenerative disc disease, many ocular (eye) diseases, some GI and genitourinary tract"

webexplorer · 09-30-2009, 08:01 PM

I read that your post stated, "900 including cord blood by Dr. Ramire" which means that they get the cord from his wife?

I am pretty sure that the patients have to get their own bone marrow out during the surgery in order for a lab to extract and process it something so that a doctor will implant it in their body for a second surgery. This is probably not related for the cochlear.

Here is the link that you might be interested to look it up, and I saw on Oprah's TV show with Dr. Oz. It's amazing and famous story... Unfortunately, no closed caption on the video clip. (I watch Dr. Oz's TV show almost everyday. He has a lot of interesting to talk about.)

Dr. Oz Goes Inside a Tissue Regeneration Lab - Video - Oprah.com

Stem Cell Research - Oprah.com

deafdude1 · 10-01-2009, 07:00 AM

I eagerly await more and more information which will become possible with time. I am curious if anyone has any idea on the rate of improvement. Today it appears that 75% of those get at least a 10db improvement in their hearing. Average improvement is 20db and a lucky few get over 30db improvement!

Any candidate today can go out and be a pioneer in getting stem cells for deafness. Any idea when there will be a guarantee, say if you don't improve at least 10db youll either get additional stem cell treatments free or get a partial refund?

Im also wondering if they have treated anyone who was born deaf like I was. I read somewhere that they did and the infant experienced a huge improvement in hearing!

Are the stem cell clinics expecting a growing number of patients who wish to treat their hearing loss or deafness? They should have their results posted as testimonal and provide "before" and "after" audiograms. There's plenty of testimonals for stem cell treatment of blindness and many other conditions so we know stem cells does work.

That link is broken. But you did post in AD that the center is located in Tijuana, Mexico. They have treated 900 patients since 2003(wow that's early!) and they can treat total deafness now! How many patients have they treated for deafness/hearing loss and how much improvement was achieved and what % didn't improve? Were any who were born deaf treated? The cost of $20,000 is way cheaper than CI!

I could fly to San Diego(or some other airport) and visit Phi4sius who lives in CA. Together we could drive to Tijuana once or twice a week for cord blood stem cell treatments. This would save us thousands in travel and hospital fees over going overseas to China or some other country!

Phi4sius says we could get our chance as early as 2010! Would we see a dozen case studies per stem cell clinic and overall over 100 who have successfully been treated for deafness? I know it's available today if you want to be a pioneer and find a 20db improvement acceptable but no guarantees yet. I would be happy with as little as 20db improvement, it's a realistic expectation.

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neuro Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 177	Mass Eye and Ear they regrew cochlea cilia using stem cells in mice?? Mass Eye and Ear they regrew cochlea cilia using stem cells in mice?? "The good news for everyone is at Mass Eye and Ear they regrew cochlea cilia using stem cells in mice. It works too I hear. Be years before it can be done on a human but it's actually been a couple years since they regrew the hairs in the mice. So it will happen". source: Damaged hearing - Gearslutz.com

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neuro Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 177	10-week old deaf infant underwent a Stem Cell procedure??? 10-week old deaf infant underwent a Stem Cell procedure??? "It has been recorded in the United Kingdom (UK) that a 10-week old deaf infant underwent a Stem Cell procedure. Word is that the infant became able to hear. I misplaced documentation on this case but hope to locate it in the near future. One consideration: cost is really so low". SOURCE: Aguabo / FDA: CI Stats – Dropout rates? Netripized’s rambling thoughts…

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09-26-2009, 02:50 AM	#256 (permalink)
deafdude1 Getting stem cells ~2011! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,051 Blog Entries: 1	Can you or anyone else try to get more audiograms(before and after) of any patient who got stem cells? By now, at least two dozen have gotten stem cells. We would like more results/evidence! Someone emailed a stem cell clinic in China that treated 4 patients and 3 of them improved an average of 20db and one got more than 30db improvement. That guy got so much improvement he could hear some sounds/speech unaided! I wonder how much of a loss he started with and what his final loss is now. Im guessing he was severely deaf(about 80db loss) and improved down to 40db loss which would give you 50% speech understanding unaided and aid you down to 0-10db easily. Id also be interested if those stem cell centers in China and elsewhere believe stem cell technology will become more powerful for hearing loss in the near future(1, 2, 3 years) or if todays results are the best one can expect for a very long time(at least 10 years) I am not going to wait 10 years if todays results are as good as it gets for at least 10 years. Ill just go ahead with Phi4sius in the summer of 2010, take our 20db average improvement and be able to hear alot better with HAs. Then in 2020 or so, simply get more stem cells or some other more advanced procedure that can further improve hearing. I want to know if they believe stem cells can be giving much more improvement in the near future(1, 2, 3 years) or will it be exactly the same as today's stem cells? I don't want to wait if I don't have to. I will only wait if results are expected to be much better in the near future. Otherwise ill just get my 20db average improvement which will make do for 10+ years till they find a better or different way to get me the rest of the way in improvement so I can hear well enough to rarely or never need HAs(40db or better unaided hearing) __________________

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neuro Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 177	GWUMC Events: "Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear ..." GWUMC Events: "Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness" "GWUMC Events Events Thursday, October 1, 2009 Month View \| Week View \| Day View "Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness" department: Medical Center Communications and Marketing when: Thursday, 10/01/2009 (Noon - 1:00 PM) where: Ross Hall: 401 Physio Conf Rm who / speaker(s): Chunyu (Hunter) Cai & Kent Morest details: ANAT 221: Special Topics in Stem Cell Biology and Regenerative Medicine & The department of Anatomy and Regenerative Biology Present: Chunyu (Hunter) Cai & Kent Morest "Directed Differentiation of Embryonic Stem Cells into Cochlear Ganglion Precursors for Transplantation as a Treatment of Deafness" Thursday, October 1st, 2009 ROSS HALL 401 12:00 p.m. - 1:00 pm open to public: No" source: Events • The George Washington University Medical Center

09-29-2009, 05:33 AM	#266 (permalink)
neuro Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 177	Cochlear Repair "Cochlear Repair According to an Italian research team publishing their findings in Cell Transplantation (17:6), hearing loss due to cochlear damage may be repaired by transplantation of human umbilical cord hematopoietic stem cells (HSC) since they show that a small number migrated to the damaged cochlea and repaired sensory hair cells and neurons". source: Expecting A Baby

09-30-2009, 10:18 AM	#267 (permalink)
neuro Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 177	eurohear : Theoretical Training eurohear : Theoretical Training http://www.graphicant.com/portfolio/...oklet_2009.pdf

09-30-2009, 04:07 PM	#268 (permalink)
neuro Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 177	stem cells hearing loss México? another forum, pioneer of stem cells, referred to as stem cells treated by the total bilateral hearing loss. The clinic, he says, is in Mexico. I have no further information. I've only read the forum for stem cell pioneers. see: ICMS Offshore guide now available - Stem Cell Pioneers !"Clinic Name Inbicto Ortholab AKA “The Ramirez Clinic” (Nepsis Institute affiliated) Location Tijuana, Mexico near the US-USA border Cost Ballpark: Bone marrow harvesting, lab processing & Intathecal infusion: $16-17KUSD, stereotactic implant $23-25K. Patients Treated 900 including cord blood by Dr Ramirez (2003-Present) Primary Stem Cell Type used Autologous Primary Stem Cell Type Classification Bone Marrow multilineage progenitors, mesenchymals, etc. Stem Cell Source: Bone Marrow Conditions Treated Neurodegenerative (ALS, MS, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s ), cerebral palsy, TBI, osteoarthritis, spinal cord injury, kidney failure, bronchiectasis, Emphysema, some cardiovascular, *bilateral total hearing loss (Hair cell related)*, degenerative disc disease, many ocular (eye) diseases, some GI and genitourinary tract"

09-30-2009, 08:01 PM	#269 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 4,504	I read that your post stated, "900 including cord blood by Dr. Ramire" which means that they get the cord from his wife? I am pretty sure that the patients have to get their own bone marrow out during the surgery in order for a lab to extract and process it something so that a doctor will implant it in their body for a second surgery. This is probably not related for the cochlear. Here is the link that you might be interested to look it up, and I saw on Oprah's TV show with Dr. Oz. It's amazing and famous story... Unfortunately, no closed caption on the video clip. (I watch Dr. Oz's TV show almost everyday. He has a lot of interesting to talk about.) Dr. Oz Goes Inside a Tissue Regeneration Lab - Video - Oprah.com Stem Cell Research - Oprah.com

10-01-2009, 07:00 AM	#270 (permalink)
deafdude1 Getting stem cells ~2011! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,051 Blog Entries: 1	I eagerly await more and more information which will become possible with time. I am curious if anyone has any idea on the rate of improvement. Today it appears that 75% of those get at least a 10db improvement in their hearing. Average improvement is 20db and a lucky few get over 30db improvement! Any candidate today can go out and be a pioneer in getting stem cells for deafness. Any idea when there will be a guarantee, say if you don't improve at least 10db youll either get additional stem cell treatments free or get a partial refund? Im also wondering if they have treated anyone who was born deaf like I was. I read somewhere that they did and the infant experienced a huge improvement in hearing! Are the stem cell clinics expecting a growing number of patients who wish to treat their hearing loss or deafness? They should have their results posted as testimonal and provide "before" and "after" audiograms. There's plenty of testimonals for stem cell treatment of blindness and many other conditions so we know stem cells does work. That link is broken. But you did post in AD that the center is located in Tijuana, Mexico. They have treated 900 patients since 2003(wow that's early!) and they can treat total deafness now! How many patients have they treated for deafness/hearing loss and how much improvement was achieved and what % didn't improve? Were any who were born deaf treated? The cost of $20,000 is way cheaper than CI! I could fly to San Diego(or some other airport) and visit Phi4sius who lives in CA. Together we could drive to Tijuana once or twice a week for cord blood stem cell treatments. This would save us thousands in travel and hospital fees over going overseas to China or some other country! Phi4sius says we could get our chance as early as 2010! Would we see a dozen case studies per stem cell clinic and overall over 100 who have successfully been treated for deafness? I know it's available today if you want to be a pioneer and find a 20db improvement acceptable but no guarantees yet. I would be happy with as little as 20db improvement, it's a realistic expectation. __________________

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