jillio

They don't vaccinate millions of people without experimental controls. At least not in this country. And what exactly does that have to do with stem cell research?

Deafness

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neuro

to see, has nothing to do with stem cells. But as I said I would have to spend decades on the ground to do controls, experimental phases, and so on., We have the case of the flu vaccine is not approved by the FDA for example but urges a vaccine to control the pandemic, and is discussing possible side effects, possible risks, but the fact is they are thinking vaccinate many people, but previously in record time do experiments with humans ... Vacuna para la gripe A: experimentación con humanos en Atlanta

deafdyke

True minimal help is better then nothing. However, the minimal help I speak of, (with spinal cord inuires) wasn't anything that might not have been attribuatble to physical therapy.
You know....... you're saying that "stem cells" are the result of the improvement.......but for all you know the improvement may have been due to things like a well cleaned out ear canal, or whatever.
It's also possible that the dude had a type of loss that was really particuarly responsive to stem cell treatment.
Seriously............it is STILL so up in the air......

ref74

As far as we know, all these news could be absolutely and simply false.
No peer reviewed publication, no proof of result.

Ridemiown

just a side note about Costa Rica - US veterinarians are allowed to practice human medicine there so I'd be more than a little hesitant to have stem cell therapy there

This is true as I have a friend that relocated from the US (licensed veterinarian here) and practices human med in Costa Rica.

I have a question for a moderator - can a separate topic folder be created for Stem Cell discussions and leave this one for Cochlear Implants?

That would allow this forum to remain dedicated to CI's and those interested in discussing Stem Cells would have their own forum as well.

jillio

Obviously, you understand very little about medical research. Testing a vaccine cannot compare to the reseach necessary for stem cell therapy. We have been using vaccines for decades, and know that they are effective and safe. The research is not starting as a new therapy.

deafdude1

There is plenty of proof of stem cells treating other diseases, It's all over Google. As for hearing loss, it's been proven to work in animals and the few humans who got it experimentally, they were able to recover a portion of their hearing. One guy experienced a 25db improvement. I know it's real and it's only a question of when ill get the chance to get stem cells myself. I estimate 3-5 years for this.

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faire_jour

This one guy.....

I know a person who survived a bullet to the brain, that means you can too!

deafdude1

I haven't started a single stem cell thread in the HA and CI forum. Still waiting for a mod to create a stem cell thread and move all the stem cell threads to that proper category.

I am not going to be a guina pig for stem cells anywhere. Once it's proven to work on hundreds of others with less risk than CI, only then will I go ahead. There will be alot more than "this one guy" itll be all over the news in 2-3 years of people traveling abroad and getting a 20-40+ db improvement in their hearing!

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C-NICE

Where are these time lines coming from?

neuro

Bone Marrow Transplantation
UW-Madison researcher saved by stem cells
Template Test Site Bone Marrow Transplantation

jillio

You know, dude, there is this wonderful feature called "Google Scholar" that you need to start using. It provides articles and databases that are scientifically valid, and not fly by night anecdotal websites.

jillio

Shall we conduct an experiment?

Phinias Gage survived a railroad spike completely penetrating his skull, too, but the vast majority would die from such an injury. He just got lucky, and the angle it traveled through his brain missed any vital areas.

jillio

Bone Marrow Transplantation has been an accepted and widely used therapy for 30 years.

neuro

see stem cells deafness - Google Académico

jillio

Are you Spanish?

All I see is a bunch of "may" "have the possibility" and "coulds" in the research from that link. That is why you need to stop making definitive statements regarding "will" when even the scientific community does not have the confidence or the evidence to make such statements.

neuro

yes

jillio

Please see the addition to my above post.

neuro

consult daily reports, if it does not come out tomorrow today. As soon great news that the cord blood can be tested or testing in children for hearing loss, we should have to make the effort. Should await the results. It is also great news that China has the possibility of stem cell therapy for hearing loss if not now then tomorrow will be, and other conditions ... must continue daily in the effort.

jillio

Still remote possibilities, maybes, and could bes. Nothing definitive.

neuro

You mean that in Costa Rica are doing human trials with stem cells in this case for hearing loss?

deafdude1

Probably and in secret too, save for a few high profile cases. My friend wanted to get stem cells to treat his hearing loss there and they said they can do it, just not at this time as stem cell technology isn't yet advanced enough to treat his degree of loss. It's possible he may have to sign a NDA like some of the others. Their NDA will expire several months from now and expect to see blogs of them sharing their stem cell experiences. One guy who shared his experience to my friend reported a 25db improvement.

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neuro

then you mean what it says on the Chinese website is false cure deafness?
"<span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">你好，神经性耳聋疾病我们做了一些，不多，但是疗效非常好，我们治疗过外伤引起的、脑胶质瘤合 并手术引起的、先天性的听神经受损等等，我们干细胞移植有自体和异体的，根据病人的具体情况制定出个性化的 移植方案。</span> Hello, nerve deafness disease we have done some, not much, but the effect is very good, we have treated trauma caused by the brain caused by glioma combined surgery, congenital auditory nerve damage, etc., we have stem cell transplantation autograft and allograft, according to the specific circumstances of the patient to develop a personalized transplantation program.</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">一个疗程包括4-6次干细胞移植，做4次移植的话，需要5万左右包括4次干细胞移植、住院费、检查费等，需要住院二十几天。 </span> 4-6 times a course of treatment, including stem cell transplantation, transplant done four times, then needs 5 million per, including four sub-stem cell transplantation, hospitalization fees, inspection fees, required hospitalization for 20 days.</span> "
source: Google Traductor

neuro

thanks for the info!
We hope the novelty, we expect to share experience, improve hearing, and so on., The more data that we have more advance knowledge and more people are interested

jillio

It's a website, dude. Try some valid scientific information. Why aren't the results reported on the website published in any scientific journal?

neuro

the website is part of that is or will be a large multinational, ie Beike
Qingdao Chengyang People's Hospital

jillio

No, it isn't. Research findings are reported in reputable scientific journals, not on websites.

neuro

well, little by little, as we'll be online every day if not in this forum as another, when we find more information we will share it, whether scientific information, or information websites are slowly ...

faire_jour

"One guy", "probably", "possible"...

Do you have ANY, any, any facts at all?

jillio

You can access scientific journals online. Try it sometime.