CI question

djchur · 12-03-2008, 12:10 PM

Can you hear birds sing with a cochlear implant? I can't hear anything like that with my hearing aids, but I don't think my hearing is bad enough to get a CI: right ear 70-95db, left ear 80-105db. Does anyone know whether I would be able to get a CI with my hearing loss?

Hear Again · 12-03-2008, 12:15 PM

yes, i can hear birds sing with my ci's.

in order to qualify for a ci, you must have severe-profound (80 dB+ across all frequencies) or profound (90 dB+ across all frequencies) loss and speech understanding of 40% or less with hearing aids in the best listening environment.

based on what you've said, your left ear could qualify for a ci, but the only way to determine that is to visit a qualified ci center for an evaluation.

by the way, what is your speech discrimination scores (i.e. percentages) with hearing aids?

overthepond · 12-03-2008, 12:22 PM

As you are in the severe/profound range, It is possible to get referal from your ENT (i don't know where excatly you live) I am from UK (south) and when my HA doesn't seem to be loud enough, I got Referal from my ENT to CI Centre where they would give an Intial assessment, it's an assessment to see if a person are eglible to go on to full CI assessment, it's simple, just few hearing tests, the speech discrimation tests.
Be prepared for long wait, I was lucky i had my CI 10 months after referal, the norm is 2 years waiting depending on where you live. You will need to make appt with your ENT first then go from there.
CI is paid for By PCT but again that depends on your local PCT.

I don't see the harm in trying out. Good luck

Haven't heard bird sing yet as i was implanted in July and the birds aren't singing until spring! But I do hear alot more than i ever did with HA's. I can hear computer tapping, and clicking as i change the page on the website!

vallee · 12-03-2008, 06:02 PM

yes I can hear the birds sign. I haven't heard them since I was about 11 or 12.

loml · 12-03-2008, 07:11 PM

Hear Again & vallee - Do you have any favorites? Me, I am partial to the Robin.

vallee · 12-03-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Hear Again & vallee - Do you have any favorites? Me, I am partial to the Robin.

I spent most the year trying to find out where the birds are. I am really amazed as how loud and "noisy" birds can be. I teach in a portable and I hear them all spring long through the walls(never before CIs).

At first it was a sense of aw.....I hear the birds....then it went to.....do they ever stop.....to wearing ear muffs!

I will focus on the robin and listen to the different sounds.

Hear Again · 12-03-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Hear Again & vallee - Do you have any favorites? Me, I am partial to the Robin.

i'm afraid i can't identify birds by their songs since i can't see them. i'm not experienced enough in birding to be able to do this, but i'm working on it. i have several websites bookmarked that have audio files of various bird songs and i'm slowly learning how to identify them by ear.

Hear Again · 12-03-2008, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vallee

I spent most the year trying to find out where the birds are. I am really amazed as how loud and "noisy" birds can be. I teach in a portable and I hear them all spring long through the walls(never before CIs).

At first it was a sense of aw.....I hear the birds....then it went to.....do they ever stop.....to wearing ear muffs!

I will focus on the robin and listen to the different sounds.

vallee,

what do you mean by a "portable?"

Hear Again · 12-03-2008, 07:40 PM

as for myself, i could never grow tired of hearing birds sing. they can make all the noise they want and i'd still listen to them all day.

the only bird sound I *don't* like is squawking.

vallee · 12-03-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hear Again

vallee,

what do you mean by a "portable?"

I teach in a building that is not part of our school it is a modular building. To me it looks like a metal storage shed or a trailer. It has sliding and wood paneling inside. It is not very comfortable, cold in the weather and hot in the spring. I have to walk outside to pick up my students every 45 minutes to bring them outside.

Hear Again · 12-03-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vallee

I teach in a building that is not part of our school it is a modular building. To me it looks like a metal storage shed or a trailer. It has sliding and wood paneling inside. It is not very comfortable, cold in the weather and hot in the spring. I have to walk outside to pick up my students every 45 minutes to bring them outside.

for the explanation. i also don't think i'd be very comfortable in that environment.

SpiceHD · 12-03-2008, 10:58 PM

i can hear birds singing with CI and im profound deaf... and i do enjoy listening to them. there is one type of bird that makes that awful sound... i dont know which type though but man its awful lol.. its like they were screaming or something. i also can hear crickets at night time if i sit still and just listen. they have interesting music... its like two different crickets has different music.. i can hear the difference in the beats and they were taking turns. it was pretty cool.

i can hear lot of sounds and yet same time i cant hear some sounds like low bass.. i dont hear it but rather feel it first.

etalton · 12-03-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiceHD

there is one type of bird that makes that awful sound... i dont know which type though but man its awful lol.. its like they were screaming or something.

Sounds like that could be the BlueJay. They do make an awful racket. Or a crow, who "caws" that can grate on your nerves as well. Neither one is a pretty sound.

etalton · 12-03-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

i'm afraid i can't identify birds by their songs since i can't see them. i'm not experienced enough in birding to be able to do this, but i'm working on it. i have several websites bookmarked that have audio files of various bird songs and i'm slowly learning how to identify them by ear.

Living in the northern midwest, have you run across the sound of a loon yet? I would be interested to read how you react to that laughing sound they make.

SpiceHD · 12-03-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by etalton

Sounds like that could be the BlueJay. They do make an awful racket. Or a crow, who "caws" that can grate on your nerves as well. Neither one is a pretty sound.

thanks for suggestions... ill have to find those birds online and listen to what they make... if it sound similiar then i will be able to identify that later on. thanks!

Hear Again · 12-03-2008, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etalton

Living in the northern midwest, have you run across the sound of a loon yet? I would be interested to read how you react to that laughing sound they make.

yes, i have heard the loon before. in fact, there is a pond located not too far where i live that has alot of loons in it during the spring and summer. i can hear them from my apartment when the livingroom window is open. the sound of the loon makes me smile and chuckle because it sounds so strange.

Hear Again · 12-03-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by etalton

Sounds like that could be the BlueJay. They do make an awful racket. Or a crow, who "caws" that can grate on your nerves as well. Neither one is a pretty sound.

i hate that sound too.

so far, there are 4 sounds i can't stand:

* birds squawking
* crows "cawing"
* motorcycles
* guitars used in heavy metal bands

having said that, there are many, many more sounds that i *do* like.

vallee · 12-04-2008, 07:01 AM

My favorite sounds are children laughing and giggling.

Sounds that bother me are:
1. Loud noises in action movies
2. Toliets flushing
3. The ac and the dishwasher

I must say I love just being about to hear sounds I have either never heard before or slowly lost over time. The greatest joy is not to have to ask others to repeat themselves as often as before.

Number one best CI sound is music!!!!

Hear Again · 12-04-2008, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vallee

My favorite sounds are children laughing and giggling.

Sounds that bother me are:
1. Loud noises in action movies
2. Toliets flushing
3. The ac and the dishwasher

I must say I love just being about to hear sounds I have either never heard before or slowly lost over time. The greatest joy is not to have to ask others to repeat themselves as often as before.

Number one best CI sound is music!!!!

agreed!

thanks to my ci's, i was able to resume voice lessons. i've been taking private voice lessons since january of 2005 and have been working with the same vocal coach all this time. he's wonderful and is continually amazed at how much my ci's have enabled me to enjoy music once again.

my next goal is to play a musical instrument. i'm considering the piano, flute, violin, viola, harp, sax, piccolo and clarinet.

note: i've already played the instruments highlighted in bold.

overthepond · 12-04-2008, 11:04 AM

Awesome lisa!, I used to play on the keyboards pre ci without sounds just feeling.. so hard but did pass grade exams. Haven't touched the keyboards for 14 years (since i left school) i wonder if i should take keyboards up again! ummm!

SkullChick · 12-04-2008, 11:06 AM

Yes I can hear birds. You could ask to get worse ear implanted.
My favorite bird sound so far is duck because its so funny sounding and makes me laugh hearing it.
Worst bird sound so far is crow and seagull (they're tied lol)

Hear again- I like sound of motorcycle lol it sound much richer and cooler with ci than ha lol

Hate sound list
- aquarium being low on water (filters loud! Drown out tv lol)
- AC
- guitar disortion in heavy metal/rock music
- people talking so loud that I wonder if they're unknownly hard of hearing lol
- music being too loud
- tv being unnecessary loud (movie's exception cuz of sound effect and vibration lol)
- some of car engine especially mine ew! Hate high pitch whining engine.
- dog barking loudly

Love sound list
- cat purring
- cricket
- duck quacking
- cat meowing
- smallness of little kids voice
- dog whimpering/soft growling
- super soft pretty music playing
- many more I can't think right now

SpiceHD · 12-04-2008, 12:34 PM

hate sound list...

birds that makes awful sounds
plastic bags
static
the sound cat make if u try to put them in a bath.
drilling sounds in dentist *shudders*

love sound list

most animals sounds
most music except for heavy metal... for some reason i cannot "understand" that music.
motorcycles
powpow music
baby giggle/talking (cooing)
male voices.

theres a lot more but those are my top liked sounds.

overthepond · 12-04-2008, 01:01 PM

Hate sounds-

Paper rustling
Dishwasher/wash machine, why do they take hours to clean and make so much noise!
Echoy places
Crows Cawwing...

Fav sounds

Cat meow (i tease her with her food so i can hear her meow!)
Boris's tags jingling! I know where he is when walking out in the dark!

I do take the sounds for granted! I am so pleased that i have sounds in my life so is grateful for any sound.

Hear Again · 12-04-2008, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiceHD

hate sound list...

birds that makes awful sounds
plastic bags
static
the sound cat make if u try to put them in a bath.
drilling sounds in dentist *shudders*

love sound list

most animals sounds
most music except for heavy metal... for some reason i cannot "understand" that music.
motorcycles
powpow music
baby giggle/talking (cooing)
male voices.

theres a lot more but those are my top liked sounds.

i also can't stand the sound of heavy metal music even though i used to listen to it as a teen.

what is powpow music? i've never heard of that before.

SpiceHD · 12-04-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hear Again

i also can't stand the sound of heavy metal music even though i used to listen to it as a teen.

what is powpow music? i've never heard of that before.

native american music... they are most beautiful music i ever heard to be honest heres a link u can check out

NativeRadio Stream 7 Radio

also go to youtube and type powwow dance or just powwow or even powwow drummers... its awesome.

ofc that is in my opinion

you can see for yourself and decide if u like it or not.

LuciaDisturbed · 12-05-2008, 02:12 AM

There are several sounds I cannot stand, such as the sound of someone coughing. That sound is harsh on my brain. (I said brain because with CI's you hear with your brain, or it feels like you hear with your brains than ears, anyway). I can't stand the sound of the toilet flushing...that sound is overwhelming. Oh, and the phone. It goes riiiiiing.....riiiiiing.....riiiiing. It irritates and overwhelms my brain, to the point where I have turned the telephone's ringer off. I don't use the telephone, it is my fiance's. He keeps it here so that he can call his grandfather to come pick him up when he spends the night here (My fiance is severe-profound deaf, but can speak on the phone with his hearing aids on, with relatives and family only (familiar voices only). Hmmm, what other sounds? Oh, I do not like the sound of cars and other vehicles at all, they are simply too overwhelming for my poor brain. I sometimes do not like the sounds of some people's voices sometimes. Sometimes they sound harsh to me.

But I like most other sounds, though.

Hear Again · 12-05-2008, 03:06 AM

lucia,

i agree with you about all of the sounds you mentioned. i also hate them -- especially people's voices that are of a certain pitch.

three other sounds i can't stand is someone sniffling, blowing their nose or sneezing. ewww.

Hear Again · 12-05-2008, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiceHD

native american music... they are most beautiful music i ever heard to be honest heres a link u can check out

NativeRadio Stream 7 Radio

also go to youtube and type powwow dance or just powwow or even powwow drummers... its awesome.

ofc that is in my opinion

you can see for yourself and decide if u like it or not.

i'm going to check out the link you shared later today. thanks!

12-03-2008, 12:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
djchur Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 176	CI question Can you hear birds sing with a cochlear implant? I can't hear anything like that with my hearing aids, but I don't think my hearing is bad enough to get a CI: right ear 70-95db, left ear 80-105db. Does anyone know whether I would be able to get a CI with my hearing loss?

12-03-2008, 12:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hear Again Each day is a gift. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,067 Blog Entries: 6	yes, i can hear birds sing with my ci's. in order to qualify for a ci, you must have severe-profound (80 dB+ across all frequencies) or profound (90 dB+ across all frequencies) loss and speech understanding of 40% or less with hearing aids in the best listening environment. based on what you've said, your left ear could qualify for a ci, but the only way to determine that is to visit a qualified ci center for an evaluation. by the way, what is your speech discrimination scores (i.e. percentages) with hearing aids? __________________ Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE (Implanted: 12/22/04 \| Activated: 1/18/05) Right ear - Nucleus Freedom (Implanted: 2/1/06 \| Activated: 3/1/06) Deafblind/Postlingual

12-03-2008, 06:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
vallee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,212	yes I can hear the birds sign. I haven't heard them since I was about 11 or 12. __________________ Right and Left Implanted July 19, 2007 Activated August 9, 2007 Both Advanced Bionics Harmony

12-03-2008, 07:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hear Again Each day is a gift. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,067 Blog Entries: 6	as for myself, i could never grow tired of hearing birds sing. they can make all the noise they want and i'd still listen to them all day. the only bird sound I don't like is squawking. __________________ Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE (Implanted: 12/22/04 \| Activated: 1/18/05) Right ear - Nucleus Freedom (Implanted: 2/1/06 \| Activated: 3/1/06) Deafblind/Postlingual

12-03-2008, 10:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
SpiceHD proud mommy :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: annapolis, md (finally!) Posts: 1,528	i can hear birds singing with CI and im profound deaf... and i do enjoy listening to them. there is one type of bird that makes that awful sound... i dont know which type though but man its awful lol.. its like they were screaming or something. i also can hear crickets at night time if i sit still and just listen. they have interesting music... its like two different crickets has different music.. i can hear the difference in the beats and they were taking turns. it was pretty cool. i can hear lot of sounds and yet same time i cant hear some sounds like low bass.. i dont hear it but rather feel it first. __________________ http://flyingfreewithyou.fourpointwellness.com/

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12-03-2008, 12:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
overthepond Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Great Britain Posts: 1,271	As you are in the severe/profound range, It is possible to get referal from your ENT (i don't know where excatly you live) I am from UK (south) and when my HA doesn't seem to be loud enough, I got Referal from my ENT to CI Centre where they would give an Intial assessment, it's an assessment to see if a person are eglible to go on to full CI assessment, it's simple, just few hearing tests, the speech discrimation tests. Be prepared for long wait, I was lucky i had my CI 10 months after referal, the norm is 2 years waiting depending on where you live. You will need to make appt with your ENT first then go from there. CI is paid for By PCT but again that depends on your local PCT. I don't see the harm in trying out. Good luck Haven't heard bird sing yet as i was implanted in July and the birds aren't singing until spring! But I do hear alot more than i ever did with HA's. I can hear computer tapping, and clicking as i change the page on the website!

12-04-2008, 07:01 AM	#18 (permalink)
vallee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,212	My favorite sounds are children laughing and giggling. Sounds that bother me are: 1. Loud noises in action movies 2. Toliets flushing 3. The ac and the dishwasher I must say I love just being about to hear sounds I have either never heard before or slowly lost over time. The greatest joy is not to have to ask others to repeat themselves as often as before. Number one best CI sound is music!!!! __________________ Right and Left Implanted July 19, 2007 Activated August 9, 2007 Both Advanced Bionics Harmony

12-04-2008, 11:04 AM	#20 (permalink)
overthepond Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Great Britain Posts: 1,271	Awesome lisa!, I used to play on the keyboards pre ci without sounds just feeling.. so hard but did pass grade exams. Haven't touched the keyboards for 14 years (since i left school) i wonder if i should take keyboards up again! ummm!

12-04-2008, 11:06 AM	#21 (permalink)
SkullChick Lil Ci-Borg Chick Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middle Of Nowhere, Delaware Posts: 790	Yes I can hear birds. You could ask to get worse ear implanted. My favorite bird sound so far is duck because its so funny sounding and makes me laugh hearing it. Worst bird sound so far is crow and seagull (they're tied lol) Hear again- I like sound of motorcycle lol it sound much richer and cooler with ci than ha lol Hate sound list - aquarium being low on water (filters loud! Drown out tv lol) - AC - guitar disortion in heavy metal/rock music - people talking so loud that I wonder if they're unknownly hard of hearing lol - music being too loud - tv being unnecessary loud (movie's exception cuz of sound effect and vibration lol) - some of car engine especially mine ew! Hate high pitch whining engine. - dog barking loudly Love sound list - cat purring - cricket - duck quacking - cat meowing - smallness of little kids voice - dog whimpering/soft growling - super soft pretty music playing - many more I can't think right now __________________ [Left Ear] Implanted 1/15/08 with Nucleus Freedom! Activated 2/12/08 with Freedom BTE Link for my Cochlear Implant http://skullchick.blogspot.com Link for my Blog unrelated to cochlear Implant http://skullchickworld.blogspot.com

12-04-2008, 12:34 PM	#22 (permalink)
SpiceHD proud mommy :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: annapolis, md (finally!) Posts: 1,528	hate sound list... birds that makes awful sounds plastic bags static the sound cat make if u try to put them in a bath. drilling sounds in dentist shudders love sound list most animals sounds most music except for heavy metal... for some reason i cannot "understand" that music. motorcycles powpow music baby giggle/talking (cooing) male voices. theres a lot more but those are my top liked sounds. __________________ http://flyingfreewithyou.fourpointwellness.com/

12-04-2008, 01:01 PM	#23 (permalink)
overthepond Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Great Britain Posts: 1,271	Hate sounds- Paper rustling Dishwasher/wash machine, why do they take hours to clean and make so much noise! Echoy places Crows Cawwing... Fav sounds Cat meow (i tease her with her food so i can hear her meow!) Boris's tags jingling! I know where he is when walking out in the dark! I do take the sounds for granted! I am so pleased that i have sounds in my life so is grateful for any sound.

12-05-2008, 02:12 AM	#26 (permalink)
LuciaDisturbed Amateur Psychiatrist Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 6,648	There are several sounds I cannot stand, such as the sound of someone coughing. That sound is harsh on my brain. (I said brain because with CI's you hear with your brain, or it feels like you hear with your brains than ears, anyway). I can't stand the sound of the toilet flushing...that sound is overwhelming. Oh, and the phone. It goes riiiiiing.....riiiiiing.....riiiiing. It irritates and overwhelms my brain, to the point where I have turned the telephone's ringer off. I don't use the telephone, it is my fiance's. He keeps it here so that he can call his grandfather to come pick him up when he spends the night here (My fiance is severe-profound deaf, but can speak on the phone with his hearing aids on, with relatives and family only (familiar voices only). Hmmm, what other sounds? Oh, I do not like the sound of cars and other vehicles at all, they are simply too overwhelming for my poor brain. I sometimes do not like the sounds of some people's voices sometimes. Sometimes they sound harsh to me. But I like most other sounds, though. __________________ "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - Philosopher George Santayana. Implanted left ear 10/11/06, activated 10/16/06 - Nucleus Freedom My own CI experience, my views on CI and ASL and Deaf Culture and Society DeviantArt

12-05-2008, 03:06 AM	#27 (permalink)
Hear Again Each day is a gift. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,067 Blog Entries: 6	lucia, i agree with you about all of the sounds you mentioned. i also hate them -- especially people's voices that are of a certain pitch. three other sounds i can't stand is someone sniffling, blowing their nose or sneezing. ewww. __________________ Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE (Implanted: 12/22/04 \| Activated: 1/18/05) Right ear - Nucleus Freedom (Implanted: 2/1/06 \| Activated: 3/1/06) Deafblind/Postlingual

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