Hearing aids for profound losses - Page 3

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

VR is worthless.

That's true. I did closed my case because I am not ready for find a new job. I want to focus on school. But I need to get a new HA. I am going to see my audiologist appointment on Wednesday. But I can't afford to buy another new HA.

AliciaM · 07-13-2008, 12:51 PM

pinky,
try lyons club or something in you area that is a big "club" sometimes they will help donate to give ha's

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lilitalia89

pinky,
try lyons club or something in you area that is a big "club" sometimes they will help donate to give ha's

Ok. Can I find Lyons Club in my area? Do you have website? I want to see it. Or I get CI?

Bottesini · 07-13-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

Ok. Can I find Lyons Club in my area? Do you have website? I want to see it. Or I get CI?

Indiana Lions Speech and Hearing

Link to Lions in Indiana.

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Indiana Lions Speech and Hearing

Link to Lions in Indiana.

Thank you so much! I will check it out later. I already put it in my bookmarks saved.

jasin · 07-13-2008, 01:42 PM

With over 120db of amplification, 20+ channels, and digital signal processing hearings can work with profound hearing loss. They may not work for all, but many with profound hearing loss can and have used them. I personally know 2 deafies with profound hearing loss that have hearing aids.

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

With over 120db of amplification, 20+ channels, and digital signal processing hearings can work with profound hearing loss. They may not work for all, but many with profound hearing loss can and have used them. I personally know 2 deafies with profound hearing loss that have hearing aids.

I am honest with you. I like to have a mini BTE instead of bulky. My husband said my BTE look fine not bulky. I can't get mini BTE because of my hearing loss level is 110 db. It's suck! I wish for BTE have a style and fashion instead of boring beige.

jasin · 07-13-2008, 01:46 PM

Profound means that the person is unable to hear sounds below 95dB

Mild, moderate, severe and profound hearing loss

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Profound means that the person is unable to hear sounds below 95dB

Mild, moderate, severe and profound hearing loss

Yeah. I am pretty disappointed.

jasin · 07-13-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

I am honest with you. I like to have a mini BTE instead of bulky. My husband said my BTE look fine not bulky. I can't get mini BTE because of my hearing loss level is 110 db. It's suck! I wish for BTE have a style and fashion instead of boring beige.

Many of the digital hearing aids now amplify way beyond that. The dsp technology supposedly adds lots of clarity too. Also the more channels is not always better. I know many look for that but if you hearing loss is more flat, all the way across, more channels would not be better.

I personally like the plain jane beige myself

but hearing aids in the past were never a fashion statement for me. Bte is probably best for someone with profound hearing loss. I agree with that. I would give them a try if I were you, you have nothing to lose.

Best of luck to you

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 02:19 PM

That's nice to discuss with you. I can hear with hearing aids. If I don't wear them. I can't hear anything. I can hear my dog's barking, my husband's laugh at TV. I can hear the music but not exact a sound like hoh or hearing. You know I am talking about? When I got a newsletter with good news about digital hearing aids. My husband and I went to audiologist last few years ago. He said I can't get a digital because of my hearing level. I was alike that's bullshit. I never hear of it. Until I found AllDeaf's hearing aids forum to discuss. I found it about analog and digital will help for hearing loss with profound. That's so interesting and new to me. I want to figure it how to work it out about digital and analog is the best for profound. I don't want to waste the money to buy HA or CI. I need to make a decide. My husband is hearing. He don't care if I am deaf. He said, "It up to you if you want to get a new HA or CI. I don't care if you are still deaf no matter what. I still love you. I will always support you for wish".

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Originally Posted by jasin

Many of the digital hearing aids now amplify way beyond that. The dsp technology supposedly adds lots of clarity too. Also the more
channels is not always better. I know many look for that but if you hearing loss is more flat, all the way across, more channels would not be better.

I personally like the plain jane beige myself

but hearing aids in the past were never a fashion statement for me. Bte is probably best for someone with profound hearing loss. I agree with that. I would give them a try if I were you, you have nothing to lose.

Best of luck to you

jillio · 07-13-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

That's true. I did closed my case because I am not ready for find a new job. I want to focus on school. But I need to get a new HA. I am going to see my audiologist appointment on Wednesday. But I can't afford to buy another new HA.

If you chose to close your case, how is it that VR is responsible? They are there to assist you in finding employment. You said you didn't want to find a new job. Its not that they failed you, its that you decided to didn't want to use their services. VR stands for Vocational Rehabilitation. The purpose of the agency is to assist with vocational issues. VR can and does provide HA assistance to clients who are actively seeking employment, are engaged in training or education, or are currently working and need a new HA as part of their accommodations. But if you just want them to help you with the cost of an HA, and not work, then they are not mandated to pay for your HA.

The Lions Club will assist those in the lower income brackets who are unable to work, or parents who are working but unable to afford the devise their child needs. However,they, to have criteria that must be met, and simply choosing not to work may disqualify you from their services as well. I doubt very seriously that an organization such as the Lions Club would assist you in getting a CI.

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

If you chose to close your case, how is it that VR is responsible? They are there to assist you in finding employment. You said you didn't want to find a new job. Its not that they failed you, its that you decided to didn't want to use their services.

No. I am going back to school. VR can't do anything with education. VR is for job. I am not ready for find a new job. I need to go back to school to get a degree. I rather not mention about my past this thread. So don't worry about me. This is topic for hearing aids. Let me talk to you on PM.

jillio · 07-13-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

No. I am going back to school. VR can't do anything with education. VR is for job. I am not ready for find a new job. I need to go back to school to get a degree. I rather not mention about my past this thread. So don't worry about me. This is topic for hearing aids. Let me talk to you on PM.

VR can and does pay for eductional costs for those who need training and/or education to assist them in becoming employable.

I know what the thread is about. I was simply replying to the statements you made abour VR.

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

VR can and does pay for eductional costs for those who need training and or education to assist them in becoming employable.

I know what the thread is about.

In my hometown's VR STINK!!!! I can't move to other city because of my husband's college in our hometown. We have to wait. Ohh well.

Bottesini · 07-13-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

VR can and does pay for eductional costs for those who need training and/or education to assist them in becoming employable.

I know what the thread is about. I was simply replying to the statements you made abour VR.

Now I will probably look stupid. But when I was young, Voc Rehab did not give me option for school, but put me to group home and work as janitor.

I fought my way out of it all. But I am not a big supporter of VR.

Maybe things are much different now.

jillio · 07-13-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Now I will probably look stupid. But when I was young, Voc Rehab did not give me option for school, but put me to group home and work as janitor.

I fought my way out of it all. But I am not a big supporter of VR.

Maybe things are much different now.

Things are different. And the agency is still undergoing change that will improve the services. A lot of it is dependent upon funding issues.

However, I have a deaf student who gets VR services while he works on his Bacelor degree. A portion of his tuition and his books are paid for by VR, the rest is paid through Federal grants.

We have several non-traditional students with acquired disabilities that VR also contributes to their eductional expenses, as they were no longer capable of doing the job they had prior to disability.

The primary goal of VR is to assist the individual in obtaining and maintaining gainful employment. They will mediate on the job for needed accommodations, they will assist with eductional expenses if that is what is needed to achieve the goal, they provide job skills training and supported employment, if that is necessary, etc, etc, etc. And, you also have to keep in mind that when someone signs up for VR services, and then later decides that they don't want to work for what ever reason, funding is cut. Those cuts affect the services they are able to provide for the next person down the road.

vallee · 07-13-2008, 06:09 PM

VR assisted in college cost my first year of college. Even after I did not meet the qualifications, they still kept my file open. Only closed if after I obtained my first teaching job.

I did not have VR pay for hearing aids, my family and I covered the cost. That is why I wore my last aids for 14 years. Many audies will work with you on the cost of HA. With my profound loss, I did not get any benefit from digital. I used them on a trial as I decided for CI or not. I lasted a few weeks on them and back to my Unitrons.

vallee · 07-13-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

In my hometown's VR STINK!!!! I can't move to other city because of my husband's college in our hometown. We have to wait. Ohh well.

I can't see how VR will be different in any other town. My case manager was better in one office then the other. I think it is more about the case managers not the office. Remember they are limited by funds. Also like Jillio said they are Vocational, the goal is job placement or career training.

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vallee

I can't see how VR will be different in any other town. My case manager was better in one office then the other. I think it is more about the case managers not the office. Remember they are limited by funds. Also like Jillio said they are Vocational, the goal is job placement or career training.

I know that. I am talking about VR can't do anything with new HA. Read my posts

vallee · 07-13-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

In my hometown's VR STINK!!!! I can't move to other city because of my husband's college in our hometown. We have to wait. Ohh well.

This is the post I am going by. I read your post and that VR won't pay for new hearing aids! I am making a comment that VR is the same in each town. They are federally funded and have rules and regulations. It is not going to change from town to town!

jasin · 07-13-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

That's nice to discuss with you. I can hear with hearing aids. If I don't wear them. I can't hear anything. I can hear my dog's barking, my husband's laugh at TV. I can hear the music but not exact a sound like hoh or hearing. You know I am talking about? When I got a newsletter with good news about digital hearing aids. My husband and I went to audiologist last few years ago. He said I can't get a digital because of my hearing level. I was alike that's bullshit. I never hear of it. Until I found AllDeaf's hearing aids forum to discuss. I found it about analog and digital will help for hearing loss with profound. That's so interesting and new to me. I want to figure it how to work it out about digital and analog is the best for profound. I don't want to waste the money to buy HA or CI. I need to make a decide. My husband is hearing. He don't care if I am deaf. He said, "It up to you if you want to get a new HA or CI. I don't care if you are still deaf no matter what. I still love you. I will always support you for wish".

Thats very kind of him. He obviously respects your wishes and needs as a deaf person. I wish more hearing would respect us like your husband respect you. I think if they shown us some more respect it might change some of our thoughts about them.

I am glad hearing aids have worked for you, thats wonderful. I myself flushed the one's I had down the toliet many, many years ago in grade school when I had hearing aids and oralism forced on me. If I ever go back to having them again I suspect I will have them off most of the time when I am wearing them and only turn them on in emergencies or when listening to music.

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vallee

This is the post I am going by. I read your post and that VR won't pay for new hearing aids! I am making a comment that VR is the same in each town. They are federally funded and have rules and regulations. It is not going to change from town to town!

That's true. That's why I am disappointed with VR's changed the rules. It's not fair! I can't understand why my hometown is changing the rules through the government. Do you think about my state's Governor is control over the state with VR, SS, Tax, Medicare and other??

Pinky · 07-13-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Thats very kind of him. He obviously respects your wishes and needs as a deaf person. I wish more hearing would respect us like your husband respect you. I think if they shown us some more respect it might change some of our thoughts about them.

I am glad hearing aids have worked for you, thats wonderful. I myself flushed the one's I had down the toliet many, many years ago in grade school when I had hearing aids and oralism forced on me. If I ever go back to having them again I suspect I will have them off most of the time when I am wearing them and only turn them on in emergencies or when listening to music.

Other man from my hearing clinic. He is hearing and know nothing about deaf. He is care about hearing people to get digital HA for hearing losses.

deafdyke · 07-13-2008, 11:13 PM

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My VR counselor said, "VR rules said if you have a hearing loss than 90db and can get a new hearing aids. Your hearing loss level is 110db same since and can't get new hearing aids"

That's suck! I can't afford to buy new hearing aids. I have a high medial bills from the hospital for my health right now. I am pretty disappointed and can't get new HA. It's 8 years old now. DAMN IT!!! It's not enough strong to hear

So how did you get your current aids? I think your VR counselor might not be familair in dealing with dhh folks.........that's just so screwy.

Pinky · 07-14-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

So how did you get your current aids? I think your VR counselor might not be familair in dealing with dhh folks.........that's just so screwy.

Well. He was new at VR last 2 years ago. I got my current aids through my old VR last 8 years ago. She isn't my VR anymore. I am going to see my audiologist on Wednesday. I will figure it out what is going on.

jillio · 07-14-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by vallee

I can't see how VR will be different in any other town. My case manager was better in one office then the other. I think it is more about the case managers not the office. Remember they are limited by funds. Also like Jillio said they are Vocational, the goal is job placement or career training.

Exactly. They all operate under the same federal guidelines. If you request that your case be closed because you don't want a job, then they will close your case. It has nothing to do with whether they "stink" or not. You have chosen not to use their services, so the responsibility is yours, not VR's.

jillio · 07-14-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

That's true. That's why I am disappointed with VR's changed the rules. It's not fair! I can't understand why my hometown is changing the rules through the government. Do you think about my state's Governor is control over the state with VR, SS, Tax, Medicare and other??

VR has not changed the rules. You told them that you did not want to find a job. Therefore, they cannot help you. They are there to help people with disabilities find and maintain employment. If you are seeking employment, and HA is a part of the accommodation you need to work, they will help you with the cost of HA. But if you choose not to work, there is nothing they can do for you. It is your choice, not a change in the rules.

Likewise, if you want new aids just because you don't like the way the old BTE looks, that is not VR's responsibility either. You are evidently just confused about the purpose of VR. They are not a social services agency. The purpose of the organization is to assist with empoyment issues. You have to be looking for work, or preparing for a job to be eligble for their services.

Just because they can't help you doesn't mean that the organization is bad. It simply means that you aren't doing what you need to do to meet thier criteria for assistance.

jillio · 07-14-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vallee

VR assisted in college cost my first year of college. Even after I did not meet the qualifications, they still kept my file open. Only closed if after I obtained my first teaching job.

I did not have VR pay for hearing aids, my family and I covered the cost. That is why I wore my last aids for 14 years. Many audies will work with you on the cost of HA. With my profound loss, I did not get any benefit from digital. I used them on a trial as I decided for CI or not. I lasted a few weeks on them and back to my Unitrons.

Thanks for supporting the educational claims I made for VR. And you are correct. Your file will be kept open until you have found employment, maintained that employment for s specific time, and should you need additional accommodations that the job refuses to provide, they will reopen your case and mediate the situation for you, including testifying on your behalf should a lawsuit under the ADA become necessary.

Pinky · 07-14-2008, 11:03 AM

I told you through PM. I have been go to VR with 3 different counselors. I like the second vr who helped me found a job successful. I can't explain to you why. I want you be enough to discuss with me repeat. I am finished discuss with you! Let drop the subject! You always too much discuss with me and everyone. I am DONE!

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Originally Posted by jillio

VR has not changed the rules. You told them that you did not want to find a job. Therefore, they cannot help you. They are there to help people with disabilities find and maintain employment. If you are seeking employment, and HA is a part of the accommodation you need to work, they will help you with the cost of HA. But if you choose not to work, there is nothing they can do for you. It is your choice, not a change in the rules.

Likewise, if you want new aids just because you don't like the way the old BTE looks, that is not VR's responsibility either. You are evidently just confused about the purpose of VR. They are not a social services agency. The purpose of the organization is to assist with empoyment issues. You have to be looking for work, or preparing for a job to be eligble for their services.

Just because they can't help you doesn't mean that the organization is bad. It simply means that you aren't doing what you need to do to meet thier criteria for assistance.

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jasin Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 1,537	With over 120db of amplification, 20+ channels, and digital signal processing hearings can work with profound hearing loss. They may not work for all, but many with profound hearing loss can and have used them. I personally know 2 deafies with profound hearing loss that have hearing aids.

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jasin Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 1,537	Profound means that the person is unable to hear sounds below 95dB Mild, moderate, severe and profound hearing loss