lovezebras

wow im really glad i didn't have these many problems when my una came out, it was brand spanken new too, but i never had a problem with it..sorry girls!

Deafness

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on AllDeaf.com

cdmeggers

I didn't have too many issues with the Supero when I first got it. Yeah, it's cut off on me several times (and was replaced, and still cut off...). But, right now, it's definitely the better hearing aid. We'll see how the replacement Naida with new adjustments works out for me, whenever I get it.

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

Marisa-SA

Hey there! I'm Marisa from South-Africa.... I already messaged Meghan via Fb.

Got my Naida's on Saturday. I loved the audio zoom feature, and can hear a real difference while taling to colleagues in the pause-area, but the sound is dissapointing. I hate the sound of my own and other people's voices. It sounds nasal and also I'm not sure, but it sounds like some of the vowels are cutted out??

Meghan, what type of supero's do you have? I have the 412 model. I would love to have the same sound, but with the extra audio-zoom feature. I saw that the Supero 413 model(newer) has the audio-zoom feature. I emailed my audie to as her about rather trying out the 413 than the Naida, because the Naida sounds a lot more like an analogue ha / microphonic..

My programs is as follows:
1) Auto (Automatically switching between calm & voice-in-noise depending on situation)
2) Calm
3) Voice in noise
4) Music
5) Telecoil

I can confidently say that I can hear a difference in music, it sounds much more clearer and also I'm hearing a lot more sounds than before. But I can't stand the sound of people's voices. It sounds like they're aiming and talking so "IN MY EARS". Hehehe... (Gotta love ears, hey Meghan!)

I think my supero's isn't loud enough. Because with the Naida's I realised that I missed out on a lot of sounds. And if I put down the volume, that extra sounds dissapears... so I think maybe the supero isn't loud enough, because I remember when I got it, I had troubles adjusting to it, because it was too soft. But my audie said that she know it's too soft, but it's because the hearing aids doesn't "trigger" hearing using volume, but triggers hearing in another way (other than normal analogue ha's)

Hmm... hmmm.. hmmmm I don't know what to do. I'm seeing my audie again on Saturday. I told her about the vowels cancellation and the voices that sounds so ugh!!! and she told me to relax and that she will make some adjustments.

But I rather would like to try out the Supero413. :S But I guess she want me to rather try out the Nadia (because maybe she think that I will benefit more with the sound recover function). I dunno.

Btw... just for the stats... I'm 24 and lost my hearing when I was 7 years due to a virus. My hearing loss is profound.

cdmeggers

I have the 413AZ and have been happy with them in the 4 years that I've had it.

I was thinking I'd get benefit from the SoundRecover feature on the Naida, but I haven't really gotten any benefits at all so far... hopefully the replacement will prove to be better with the new adjustments, but we'll find out. Now, if my audie would get back to me....

good to see you here Marisa!

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

Marisa-SA

hi Meghan! oh... I though it's a new ha. Ever used the audio-zoom feature of the 413? What's your opinion about it?

cdmeggers

it's really not at all that new, been around for about 4 or 5 years. Phonak has used AudioZoom in other hearing aids since maybe 1999? Maybe longer. I haven't really noticed any "zooming" or anything like that.

I do know that my friend, who had the MicroZoom programmable hearing aid from Phonak, she loved the AZ and used it frequently. It was a seperate option for her. With the Supero, it's just done automatically I think? I don't know. She now has the Supero 412, and she says she wishes she could go back to her old hearing aids, as she did much better with the old ones. Says it's harder for her to hear on the phone with the Supero now. But she gave her twin brother her old hearing aids, so she can't get them back.

I'll say this though, I like the Supero more than the Claro. The Claro for me, was completely maxed out and we couldn't do more with it, and when I wear it, it's so quiet! But with the Supero, there's still plenty more room for volume increases if I need it, which is nice.

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

lovezebras

I have the audiozoom on my una and i asked about this feature and my audi said that the az is automatic, no buttons to press, it's just like the noise-canceling feature. It adjusts when it needs to, the AudioZoom is also relative to most phonak ha's that have dual microphones intead of just one.

MaryH

Hi,
I have the ponak una on a trial basis for about 2 months and my speech dsicrim is worse with these although envrionmental sounds are great and they have great features. However, I am going back to my Oticon, (ITEs), speech perception is better and I don't really need to hear all the environmental sounds. I can hear music and tv better with the Oticons. I was kind of disappointed after the first week with the Phonaks...a lot of people rave about them, but then everyone is different....my hearing loss is profound, bilateral.

JennyB

You have a profound bilateral loss and you are using Phonak Una's?

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

JennyB

AHHHH!!! Today I was at school and my left aid beeped at me to signal that the battery was dying. I had just changed the battery yesterday so I assumed it was a faulty battery and changed it again. The new battery was from a new pack of batteries and a different brand than the last one in it. A few minutes later the aid beeped at me to tell me the battery was dying. I took out the battery, cleaned the battery compartment, and but the battery back in. Same thing happened. It got really really quiet. SO quiet I couldn't tell if it was on or not and when I held it in my hand hearing people couldn't hear feedback unless it was right beside their ear. I replaced the battery again and then it was fine for an hour. Then the process started over again in about an hour.

My audiologist is on vacation for two weeks so I had my teacher phone the clinic where she works. Luckily her receptionist was there (she is also supposed to be going on vacation soon) and she arranged for me to see a different audiologist at a different clinic with the same company. I am going on Friday. I don't know what they can do. I don't have any kind of back-up aids. I also can't go two weeks without my aids. I am incredibly dependent on them. I know nothing about this other audiologist and as a general rule I dislike most audiologists. I get along well with mine but that is about it. hopefully we will figure something out on Friday.

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

cdmeggers

yeah see, my Naida did that to me, going quiet on me. And I changed the battery too, which did nothing. But after leaving it off for half an hour, I tried again and it was working fine. what the? what is going on with these Naidas? it's ridiculous.

I think I've wasted 4 or 5 batteries in the 3 weeks I used the Naida, oy!

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

JennyB

Yeah it is frustrating!

I have no idea what this other audi can do. Hopefully something! She isn't in the same clinic as my audi so she doesn't have access to my programming and stuff. Even if she can order me a new one - how will she program it?

Maybe she can just order me a new one so it is here and waiting for me when my audi gets back...but that is still two weeks! AH!

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

webexplorer

Oh boy, that it is very annoying about the beeps. That's what I'm trying to tell you. But, I am surprised about replacing the batteries that kept you beeps. That's not right.

If I have new hearing aids without the beeps, it would be great for me. I don't mind if the sound is getting weaker without the beeps like the old days. The beeps are horrible, and I feel that the beeps "stalked" on me. I talked to my audiologist how to turn off the beeps, and she said that there is no other way. That turned me off. The manufacturers knew that, but they won't give us to turn the beeps off. That's not good.

Anij

I didn't think Una's fell into the profound fitting range either ??? I thought they were mild-mod (extended to cover some profound upper ranges? -but this was "stretching" them past their fitting range?)???

lovezebras

there are 2 diff unas ones for mild to mod and then more powerful unas. The Una M fits mild-mod and the Una SP fits severe to profound losses.
http://www.phonak.com/com_027_0001-x...nformation.pdf

Marisa-SA

I've discovered last night, that if I put the Naida on full volume, then my voice sounds 90% it did with the supero! Yay! So it CAN better! Gotta get my audie to change it for my on Saturday.

Jenny, Meg, how are you're adapting? Still having problems?

I do not experiece that on-off-problem you're having. Weird. I'm just guessing, but what about the possibility that the ha batteries are too narrow? Causing it not to have proper contact?

Anyway, my other friend, Hermo, got his Naidas on Monday. He was on analogue (Novo forte) and he is having a hard time adjusting to naida and digital all in one. But today he said he's feeling positive. He will join me on Saturday when we'll go for second adjustments.

What programs do you have setup on your Naidas?

I hate the automatic setting.... it blurs out too many noices that I would like to hear, e.g. toilet flushing etc.

Greetings!!

cdmeggers

I'm still not wearing the Naida (still feedbacking like crazy). I have no idea if my audie has gotten the replacement yet, but he did mention in his response to my email that he has another hearing aid that just came out that he wants to try. What hearing aid that is, I have no clue. But we'll just keep experimenting around.

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

JennyB

Megan, I would be interested to know what the other aid your audi wants you to try once you find out! I am seriously considering trying a different aid. The only thing is I REALLY need the sound recover. My audiogram is all NR past 1500Hz more or less. With the sound recover I can hear 6000Hz!

Marisa, I didn't have a hard time adapting to the Naida at all. I hadn't worn hearing aids for six years (before then I have only worn Analog aids) then I used Savia Arts for 1.5months. Then my hearing changed and I got the Naidas. I think that is partially why I adjusted so well.

I am just sick of this on/off buisness!

My programs are: 1-Automatic
2-FM only
3-FM+Mic
4-Music

I use them all. Most of the time I am just in automatic though. For my iPod I use FM only, at school with my FM I will normally use FM+Mic, and then I use Music if I am listening to music or if I am in a situation when I don't want directional mics for some reason.

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

Marisa-SA

Hi Jenny.... it's weird that you do not have a calm and a speech-in-noise setting setup. The automatic setting is really annoying and I mostly have my ha on the calm setting, except for when I am talking to someone in a noisy situation.

Are you sure the ha turns off completely (and reboot completly, and you hear the beeps like it turn on again?) Reason why I ask is because I experience that when I flushes the toilet / when I'm in my car the ha completly shut out everything, untill the noise stops. Dont know if it's the same case you're talking about?

My audie was soooo happy to hear about my good progress.

I told her that I want some things changed :
1)When I walk fast, I can hear the wind...or when my hair moves around, it scratches agains the naida.... annoying!!
2)Voices sound funny..... hollow & nasal
3)That the ha completly cut out loud noises unnecessary e.g. toilet flushing etc.
4)Background noise sounds louder than voices.

She said that I shouldn't worry, and that she will change it.

Seems like you girls aren't really happy with the Naida? What is it with the feedback Meghan?? :O Are your earmoulds not too small?

I'm getting new earmoulds on Sat... Yay.. it's the smaller type... like Meg's. I hope it fit well and won't cause feedback. Otherwise I will have to go back to the old bigger size ones.

Anyone having / using the I-com?

greetings! nice talking to ya!

JennyB

I used to have speech in noise but I never used it so I had my audie replace it with FM only.

The aid is rebooting. I hear hear the melody for the automatic program 6 seconds after it dies.

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

cdmeggers

buahahaha my earmold is too small. It used to be a skeletal sort of earmold, but I got to clipping at it.. oops. Hey, the top part was hurting my ear! Still waiting on the new half-shell mold though. And I don't know if it's so much the earmold... I'll mess with the earmold constantly, and the Naida is still feedbacking! no matter what I do. I don't get the feedbacks with the Supero.

and I have never heard any differences with the different programs on the Naida. Never. It all sounded exactly the same to me.

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

Marisa-SA

hehehe @ earmould... Maybe the naida is giving feedback because it's much stronger than supero... but I know supero has an anti-feedback option... So that might be way, it's suppose to give feedback, but it doesn't.

Are you sure you have some programs setup Meghan? Hmm... I'm getting the impression that your audie isn't setting up your hearing aids to the most optional it can be.

Because, why are your supero's audio zoom not setup? :O It's the only difference between the 413 and 412... and you're not using at all? So why do you paid much more for the 413 in first place. Bla bla blah..not trying to offend you, it's just my random thoughts.

I can CLEARLY hear a difference between all the programs my audie has setup for me on my naidas. I'm really shocked to hear that you girls only have "1" setting(except for FM)...

Why are you testing out the Naida's if you're only testing out 30% of what it can do? You're not getting / are exposed all the benefits you're paying for!

If you only want 1 setting, why not sticking with cheaper hearing aid?

oeeee.... I feel like you're going to hit me over and over with some brick or something.... Not trying to offend you!

cdmeggers

Vocational Rehab paid for my Supero, so I wouldn't know if the Supero was more expensive than the Naida. Never saw the final cost for the Supero that VR paid. The AZ is probably there, I just don't notice it. And my audie did set up the programs on the Naida, but they all sound the same. And I haven't even paid for the Naida yet. My audie wanted to make sure it was working right before having me pay, which I'm happy about (other people in the same office said I'd have to pay before walking out of the office with the Naida the first day, LIARS!).

I use the different programmings on the Supero, no problem. But the Naida, maybe it's just that one hearing aid itself that isn't right, but they all sound the same, telecoil sounded bad, etc. And audie has adjusted it a few times too. I think I would rather stick with the Supero anyway, I HATE that there is no on/off switch on the Naida, HATE it. Drives me out of my mind when I try to turn off my hearing aid, but it takes both of my hands to manage to open the stupid battery door. I could never get used to not having an on/off switch.

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

JennyB

Marisa, I have a very profound loss. I am using the Naidas because of the SoundRecover, not because of the program options. Also, no other aids really cover my loss. The Naida seems to be the only one that I am in the fitting range for. I didn't even ask for the Naida. My audiologist just ordered it for me when my hearing changed. I am sure that if I were to ask to try soemthing else, and we could find something to fit my loss, that she would let me but I am happy with the Naida - aside from the tech issues.

I never used the programs so I had my audie change it for stuff that I would use.

Marisa, what is your loss like?

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

JennyB

Also, I got tomorrow to see the new audiologist about the most recent problems with the Naida. I have decided my audie isn't allowed to go on vacation anymore...especially not when I have been having problems with my aids. I just won't let her! Who knows though...maybe seeing this other audie will be good. She may know something or have an idea that my audie and I haven't had.

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

cdmeggers

I wish I knew when I was seeing my audie. He's so slow with emails!

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

JennyB

Mine gets back to me same day. Or if I email her after office hours or on a weekend she gets back to me the next working day. It is great! I finally have a functioning TTY again though so now I can call to make my appointments to. Though it is easier to just email her rather than deal with relay.

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com

Marisa-SA

Good morning girls,

Jenny, ah now I understand. Yes, as far as I'm aware, Naida is the only hearing aid with the sound recover function. My hearing loss is profound. I know most Hz's I can only hear around 100db+, and some not at all, no matter of the volume.

But I will get the specific stats from last Sat's test from my audie on this coming Saturday. She said that I'm 100% deaf.. I ask her, how does she know? She then said, the average db needed to hear will be 100db+. Makes sense.. on school I was told that my hearing loss was 101db right and 105db left.

But, I can't hear anything without hearing aids and I'm dependant on lip-reading while having the ha on.

My audie is the same as Jenny's.... always reply same day / next working day if it was over weekend/evening. Yay.

I'm writing exams today! :O Still gotta study a bit. Not suppose to be here online!! Hiehiehie.

Byes! Have a nice day!

cdmeggers

dang, my audie needs to get with the emailing program! maybe I should spam his inbox full of emails from me, asking "is the earmold in yet?" "how about the replacement?" "any news?" haha. Of course, I'm just kidding.

__________________
My Ear Blog
Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

JennyB

Well, I just had a horrific experience with that other audiologist.

For starters she had a very strong accent. I have absolutly no idea what she said. First she tried to replace my right aid. My right aid was working though. Then she reprogrammed it for my left ear, but she didn't just take the programming off my current aid and put it on the new one. No, instead she made up her own programming for it. I have no individual programs at all. Only automatic and mute, and everything sounds different. There have also been some feedback issues. I couldn't communicate with her at all. I tried signing, speech reading...everything and no such luck. I gave up in the end took the aid as is. I went straight to my audiologists office and made an appointment to see her as soon as she is back. The receptionist there knows me well and I told her all about the horrific appointment. She said other people have had similar feelings about that audie. Ugh.

So now I have poorly programmed left aid until the 18th when I see my audie. She is so never allowed to go on vacation again!

__________________


Jenny~B
http://fiestydeafanddisabled.wordpress.com