Children who have been implanted are not going to be part of the deaf community?

[deafskeptic]

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

I already wrote that this is due to the fact that majority of you speak ASL and I don't.
No wonder majority of you understand each other well, and I don't always. (What's sad, I can't even ask for rephrasing anymore without being offensively accused of hundred silly things).

By the same token, quite a number of pple seem not to be understanding standard English, unless it's very simple.

I am tried of explaining this again and again and again so this will be my last post on the subject.

Fuzzy.

Fuzzy, your claims that ASL is a factor in the majority of the deaf poster's problems with English has already been refuted by both hearing and deaf posters who know what they're talking about.

Most deaf posters seem to be able to understand hearing like rockdrummer and jillio. You need to adapt to us - not the other way around. The problem is you as you're the only one who's having problems.

I would hope this is your last post on this as many of us are tired of explaining this to you.

[Cheri]

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

I(What's sad, I can't even ask for rephrasing anymore without being offensively accused of hundred silly things).

Is that so?? Look at your very own post,

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Deaf members - and especially those who know ASL - get the different syntax. Easily.

I don't know about Rockdrummer and others, but jillio knows ASL so she could figure the question out. I don't know ASL, so I can't.

That's one reason why some of us don't want to rephrase the question to you, because you say something so negative, and it seems even so you don't care about other people's feelings but your own, so why should we care about how you want us to rephrase the questions to you? Respect comes two ways, fuzzy.

beside I rephrased the question twice.

[Cheri]

Originally Posted by deafskeptic

Fuzzy, your claims that ASL is a factor in the majority of the deaf poster's problems with English has already been refuted by both hearing and deaf posters who know what they're talking about.

Most deaf posters seem to be able to understand hearing like rockdrummer and jillio. You need to adapt to us - not the other way around. The problem is you as you're the only one who's having problems.

I would hope this is your last post on this as many of us are tired of explaining this to you.

!!

[Audiofuzzy]

Originally Posted by Cheri

Is that so?? Look at your very own post,



That's one reason why some of us don't want to rephrase the question to you, because you say something so negative, and it seems even so you don't care about other people's feelings but your own, so why should we care about how you want us to rephrase the questions to you? Respect comes two ways, fuzzy.

beside I rephrased the question twice.

With all due respect only after the third time it was comprehensible to me. The first two times your sentences were basically construed the same way.

And BINGO! you figured it out - respect comes TWO WAYS. Think about that. take a look at the barrage of insults being hurled at me in every thread, and think, think, think.

Fuzzy

[Tousi]

Thinking back to the title of this thread: Yes, they are according to Deafhood.

[Cheri]

Moderators: I would like this thread to be lock please. Ty.

[jillio]

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

I've never said Cheri's grammar is bad.

Fuzzy

Short term memory loss?

[Maria]

Originally Posted by Cheri

Moderators: I would like this thread to be lock please. Ty.

You are not the only one to feel this way. I do feel the same way, too because of AudioFuzzy. It's not worth it when she starts it.

[jillio]

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

I already wrote that this is due to the fact that majority of you speak ASL and I don't.
No wonder majority of you understand each other well, and I don't always. (What's sad, I can't even ask for rephrasing anymore without being offensively accused of hundred silly things).

By the same token, quite a number of pple seem not to be understanding standard English, unless it's very simple.

I am tried of explaining this again and again and again so this will be my last post on the subject.

Fuzzy.

It has nothing to do with the ability to use ASL. It has to do with your inability to properly convey your message in written English. Your pargmatic use of langauge is deficient. It is not a problem with translation from one language to another, as you keep implying. It s a problem with delivery and comprehension of one language mode. And, as deafskeptic has pointed out, the problem occurs with you, not others.

[jillio]

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

With all due respect only after the third time it was comprehensible to me. The first two times your sentences were basically construed the same way.

And BINGO! you figured it out - respect comes TWO WAYS. Think about that. take a look at the barrage of insults being hurled at me in every thread, and think, think, think.

Fuzzy

And of course, you bear no responsibility in the situation at all.

[deafskeptic]

Originally Posted by Maria

You are not the only one to feel this way. I do feel the same way, too because of AudioFuzzy. It's not worth it when she starts it.

I'm sorry this thread has to be locked. I can see why though.

[jillio]

Originally Posted by deafskeptic

I'm sorry this thread has to be locked. I can see why though.

Yep, another productive discussion derailed and reduced to juvenile finger pointing. Its a damn shame!

[Roadrunner]

Mod Note:


Thread's closed per creator's request--





~RR