Risk of Bacterial Meningitis and Death in Children with Cochlear Implants - Page 5

LTHFAdvocate · 10-13-2007, 08:20 AM

I'm not convinced the article is relevant to CIs, in the "what is coming soon" sense. They are referencing orthopedic implants with titanium. Only Med-el (I think) does an implant with a titanium casing. Also, the titanium used for orthopedic implants is intended to "osseointegrate", that is literally bind with bone. CIs, AFAIK (remember, I'm NOT a doctor, just work at an implant clinic) are not intended to do that. So the surfaces are different, which may make the antibiotic issue different.

Infections are pretty rare with CIs, especially in the hands of a good surgeon who is meticulous about infection control in the operating room.

Sheri

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Originally Posted by jag

interesting developements. I do wonder tho if they will be able to use different antibiotics in the implants since some people are allergic to some. This will be interesting to follow in years to come tho.

Cloggy · 10-13-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jag

ANd quite frankly since I said NOTHING about lack of sound being a cause in and of itself of language delays in my post I really don't see much reason for your response to me except that you have this strange urge to always get in the last remark. Oh well to each their own.

Ah, you forgot an important "jillio-"rule:
Jillio ALLWAYS has the last word... Anything you say after that, is the start of a new discussion.

jag · 10-13-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Ah, you forgot an important "jillio-"rule:
Jillio ALLWAYS has the last word... Anything you say after that, is the start of a new discussion.

Ah but I no longer have an urge.

jag · 10-13-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LTHFAdvocate

I'm not convinced the article is relevant to CIs, in the "what is coming soon" sense. They are referencing orthopedic implants with titanium. Only Med-el (I think) does an implant with a titanium casing. Also, the titanium used for orthopedic implants is intended to "osseointegrate", that is literally bind with bone. CIs, AFAIK (remember, I'm NOT a doctor, just work at an implant clinic) are not intended to do that. So the surfaces are different, which may make the antibiotic issue different.

Infections are pretty rare with CIs, especially in the hands of a good surgeon who is meticulous about infection control in the operating room.

Sheri

i thought it said something about other casings to. But frankly I'm not sure how good something like this would be. When they talk about antibiotic resistance I would think that by using antibiotics in an internal device they just might be creating another superbug or whatever they call it. Plus there is the fact that some people are allergic. And what if an allergy developes over time? But an intersting article anyway.

jillio · 10-13-2007, 12:10 PM

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Ah but I no longer have an urge.

I'd consult a doctor about that if I were you.

Cloggy · 10-13-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I'd consult a doctor about that if I were you.

Jag.... that was the last word on the discussion.... again, don't try to be smart and say something innocent like "Ah but I no longer have an urge. " because that is you starting a new discussion.

Basically.... you cannot answer.....

(btw... jill, this sentence is adressed to you; not the start of this post, because in no way I would like to have the last word, but I do want to explain that only this part of the post is for you indicating that you did have the last word, and even though I did not understand your humor, that is not uncommon - that people don't understand your humor - but it must be nice to have the last word, and to preven me from having the last word I will put your last words at the ens of this post to make sure you have the last word, so that you don't have to reply to me, or anyone else, here you go, your last words...)

"I'd consult a doctor about that if I were you. "

jillio · 10-13-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Jag.... that was the last word on the discussion.... again, don't try to be smart and say something innocent like "Ah but I no longer have an urge. " because that is you starting a new discussion.

Basically.... you cannot answer.....

(btw... jill, this sentence is adressed to you; not the start of this post, because in no way I would like to have the last word, but I do want to explain that only this part of the post is for you indicating that you did have the last word, and even though I did not understand your humor, that is not uncommon - that people don't understand your humor - but it must be nice to have the last word, and to preven me from having the last word I will put your last words at the ens of this post to make sure you have the last word, so that you don't have to reply to me, or anyone else, here you go, your last words...)

"I'd consult a doctor about that if I were you. "

It doesn't surprise me that you don't get my humor, cloggy.....it requires intelligence.

Cloggy · 10-13-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It doesn't surprise me that you don't get my humor, cloggy.....it requires intelligence.

Ha ha ha ha... that WAS funny!!

jag · 10-13-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Ha ha ha ha... that WAS funny!!

YEah it was.

rick48 · 10-13-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I'd consult a doctor about that if I were you.

Which one an MD or PhD?

rick48 · 10-13-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Jag.... that was the last word on the discussion.... again, don't try to be smart and say something innocent like "Ah but I no longer have an urge. " because that is you starting a new discussion.

Basically.... you cannot answer.....

(btw... jill, this sentence is adressed to you; not the start of this post, because in no way I would like to have the last word, but I do want to explain that only this part of the post is for you indicating that you did have the last word, and even though I did not understand your humor, that is not uncommon - that people don't understand your humor - but it must be nice to have the last word, and to preven me from having the last word I will put your last words at the ens of this post to make sure you have the last word, so that you don't have to reply to me, or anyone else, here you go, your last words...)

"I'd consult a doctor about that if I were you. "

Cloggy its not your fault, she has no sense of humor for you to get.

jillio · 10-13-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rick48

Cloggy its not your fault, she has no sense of humor for you to get.

Doesn't surprise me that you don't get it, either, rick. And for the same reason.

Got anything productive to add to the discussion?

jillio · 10-13-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rick48

Which one an MD or PhD?

For the lack of an urge, I'd suggest both. Could be physical, could be mental.

jag · 10-13-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rick48

Which one an MD or PhD?

ahh for emotional problems it is probably phd, since my experience with phds in the phyoclogical area have actually resulted in the same type of thing that goes on here i'll pass. Life is grand as it is I don't need the agravation.

jillio · 10-13-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jag

ahh for emotional problems it is probably phd, since my experience with phds in the phyoclogical area have actually resulted in the same type of thing that goes on here i'll pass. Life is grand as it is I don't need the agravation.

?

Cloggy · 10-14-2007, 09:12 AM

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For the lack of an urge, I'd suggest both. Could be physical, could be mental.

Ha ha ha ha... that's soo funny!! You should stop Jillio... it's getting too much... What a sense of humor... to the point, sharp, full of wits....

Cloggy · 10-14-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

?

Ah, Jillio... I know, it's not easy.. You have your rules, the rest has different rules....
Anyway, perhaps it was "physiological " wouldn't that make sense?
I've seen spelling-mistakes before... e.g.:

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Originally Posted by jillio

Information on the PDCI (partial deafness cochlear implant) from the Journal of Pediatric Otolaryngolgoy. Please note that the candidate must posssess noraml hearing in the low frequencies, and that this is a new surgical technique that few surgeons have experience with............

jillio · 10-14-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Ah, Jillio... I know, it's not easy.. You have your rules, the rest has different rules....
Anyway, perhaps it was "physiological " wouldn't that make sense?
I've seen spelling-mistakes before... e.g.:

That was a bit more than a spelling error, cloggy. It was impossible to tell from either context or spelling wheher you intended to type "psychological" or "physiological". You approximated both.

In addition, "noraml" is not a spelling error. It is a typo. Perhaps if you were aware of the difference between the two, you would better be able to level your criticism.

jillio · 10-14-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Ha ha ha ha... that's soo funny!! You should stop Jillio... it's getting too much... What a sense of humor... to the point, sharp, full of wits....

Quite obviously, you are incapble of seeing the double entendre.

Now, would you care to discuss the issue of bacterial meningitis?

Cloggy · 10-14-2007, 04:10 PM

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Quite obviously, you are incapble of seeing the double entendre.

Now, would you care to discuss the issue of bacterial meningitis?

Ha ha ha ha, "Entendre"... it just gets better and better.. Jillio, please now, get serious. it's too much fun. You are on a roll, but please stop...

BTW, seriously, ... instead of "?" you could have asked "did you intent to type "psychological" or "physiological ?"....

You're right... all your jokes, funny as they are, get us further and further away from the topic....
...let's get back to the topic..

Bacterial meningitis...
So,
People who become deaf due to BM have a higher risk of getting it, and are more aware of that danger,
Parents of children with CI are also more alert, because there is a higher risk,
BM is very well treatable with medicine,
BM kills people that are too late with treatment since they are not aware it is BM,
When you are deaf, when you have a CI, the chance of dying from BM is a lot smaller compared to the rest of the world....

What's the problem again...???

jag · 10-14-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Ah, Jillio... I know, it's not easy.. You have your rules, the rest has different rules....
Anyway, perhaps it was "physiological " wouldn't that make sense?
I've seen spelling-mistakes before... e.g.:

Hey I did say somewhere on here that spelling wasn't my best topic. LOL no I meant phsycological (?) still not sure if that's completely correct. I'm sure that but whatever, you know those people who like to give IQ tests (worthless in most cases) and try to get into your brain and tell you what you're really thinking? My expericence with them has been quite crappy, even the one we saw at Mayo Clinic. Seems they like to 'take those words and twist them' . Oh well to each their own and I don't have to consult them unless necessary.

IslandGal · 10-14-2007, 07:57 PM

Got this from a friend......

New Information on Meningitis Risk from FDA (October 10, 2007) following the deaths of two deaf kids.

Medical Device Safety: Advice for Patients with Cochlear Implants: New Information on Meningitis Risk

Cheri · 10-14-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IslandGal

Got this from a friend......

New Information on Meningitis Risk from FDA (October 10, 2007) following the deaths of two deaf kids.

Medical Device Safety: Advice for Patients with Cochlear Implants: New Information on Meningitis Risk

Interesting link. Thanks for sharing.

jillio · 10-14-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Ha ha ha ha, "Entendre"... it just gets better and better.. Jillio, please now, get serious. it's too much fun. You are on a roll, but please stop...

BTW, seriously, ... instead of "?" you could have asked "did you intent to type "psychological" or "physiological ?"....

You're right... all your jokes, funny as they are, get us further and further away from the topic....
...let's get back to the topic..

Bacterial meningitis...
So,
People who become deaf due to BM have a higher risk of getting it, and are more aware of that danger,
Parents of children with CI are also more alert, because there is a higher risk,
BM is very well treatable with medicine,
BM kills people that are too late with treatment since they are not aware it is BM,
When you are deaf, when you have a CI, the chance of dying from BM is a lot smaller compared to the rest of the world....

What's the problem again...???

How exactly is the risk of dying from bacterial meningitis (BM is bowel movement) lessened when you are deaf with a CI?

jillio · 10-14-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IslandGal

Got this from a friend......

New Information on Meningitis Risk from FDA (October 10, 2007) following the deaths of two deaf kids.

Medical Device Safety: Advice for Patients with Cochlear Implants: New Information on Meningitis Risk

Very interesting! Nearly half of surveyed parents of children with CI were not aware of whether their children had been fully vaccinated or not! So muchfor parents of ch

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