FM advantages - Page 2

LoveBlue · 07-03-2012, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

You can speechread or request front row seating or any other alternative accomondation.....aural access isn't the only option.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That might work for you, but it's not for me. One size does not fit all.

LoveBlue · 07-03-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rongarrett

upon further exsploring I find that Landmark also has a neckloop that makes the transmission from the FM receiver wireless. If I do that will I still be able to use the bluetooth with my cell phone at the same time? I'll look like a christmas tree if I can.

I'm guessing it's a t-coil neckloop your talking about. You wouldn't need that since you have the ComPilot.

AMazieLN · 07-03-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rongarrett

upon further exsploring I find that Landmark also has a neckloop that makes the transmission from the FM receiver wireless. If I do that will I still be able to use the bluetooth with my cell phone at the same time? I'll look like a christmas tree if I can.

Ron, you are getting to Naida S UP, correct? I have the V and my Audi put in the T-Coil program for phone use (one of my biggest issues). So you should be able to get that done, too. And then your hearing aid will automatically pick up the signal when you switch programs, correct? I'm going to test this in church on Sunday...I think some of our lecture halls are looped as well, so maybe that will work for me in those rooms!

LoveBlue · 07-03-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AMazieLN

Ron, you are getting to Naida S UP, correct? I have the V and my Audi put in the T-Coil program for phone use (one of my biggest issues). So you should be able to get that done, too. And then your hearing aid will automatically pick up the signal when you switch programs, correct? I'm going to test this in church on Sunday...I think some of our lecture halls are looped as well, so maybe that will work for me in those rooms!

If his church has FM, not the loop, then he'll need an FM receiver. Since he has the ComPilot, he can plug that into the receiver. If he didn't have the ComPilot but did have (and he should have) the t-coil and it is programmed, then he'd need a t-coil neckloop to plug into the FM receiver (then the sound would go from the neckloop to the HAs when in t-coil mode.

AMazieLN · 07-03-2012, 05:33 PM

Ohhhhh ok, this stuff is confusing, lol...

deafdyke · 07-03-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveBlue

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That might work for you, but it's not for me. One size does not fit all.

How is requesting preferential seating/placement or speechreading some sort of pain? It's not like I suggested you use a 'terp. Fact of the matter, there are MANY other alternative ways to compensate for bad hearing. Depending on hearing technology isn't the only way.

bbaseballboy123 · 07-03-2012, 11:13 PM

Not mentioning anything direct but a "time" ago, a person in my group needs captioning really bad all the time. So in one of the presentation at a local company, she requested an captioner, the captioner came, however the company could not provide a tv monitor, and they were trying to figure out for 20 minutes how to get captioning... for ONE person out of 20 people. Seriously? Thats some Bullcrap
its relates to the FM because yes some technology are awesome, helpful, but not realistic for the real world situation.

LoveBlue · 07-04-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

How is requesting preferential seating/placement or speechreading some sort of pain? It's not like I suggested you use a 'terp. Fact of the matter, there are MANY other alternative ways to compensate for bad hearing. Depending on hearing technology isn't the only way.

Because all your suggestions will not provide ME the same access to the information as the FM system will. If I don't have the FM available, then I do try to get a good seat & I do try to lip read. I usually end up just zoning out because I can't understand the speaker(s). FM works for ME and I'm happy when I have it available.
If your suggestions work for you, great.

AlleyCat · 07-04-2012, 09:45 AM

Regarding the workplace, you (general you) could ask your employer to cover the cost of an FM system. The worst they could do is say no. It would be worth a shot as many large employers will cover accommodation costs if it's justified.

ambrosia · 07-04-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Regarding the workplace, you (general you) could ask your employer to cover the cost of an FM system. The worst they could do is say no. It would be worth a shot as many large employers will cover accommodation costs if it's justified.

Now that's an interesting idea! Unfortunately i personally work for a small business, a spa, and the owners are wicked cheap, they drag their feet about replacing broken equipment everyone uses, face cradles, stools hell the tables!! no bennies, no insurance, no paid holidays or vacations, but that is pretty typical for the industry. BUT I want to leave that employer soon, as soon as I get my CE credits for nuromuscular therapy, I few of the my coworkers from the spa I'm at now have moved on to another company and they rave about the teh owners. Maybe they would be more accomadating

thanks for the tip

Jane B. · 07-04-2012, 03:36 PM

My church uses an older model of the Williams Personal PA and receivers. (Had trouble copying links to Ebay listing from earlier post so whole post is quoted below) A few years ago some of us were working in our basement Fellowship Hall preparing for a fund raising dinner while there was a worship service going on in the sanctuary upstairs. One of our members, who works in the IT field, pulled out an old external computer speaker and plugged it into one of the Personal PA receivers. Those that can hear well said it worked fine for hearing the service down in that room. I wasn’t too surprised as I had turned the system on and taken a cordless mike downstairs to use a receiver with my neckloop for meetings. But . . . I never would have thought to connect it to a computer speaker!

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Originally Posted by Jane B.

I have a very old hearing aid that does have a T-coil. For many years I have been using that with the older model of the Williams Personal PA (looks like this one currently on E-bay Williams Sound PA/FM transmitter T4 Hearing Assistant Receiver | eBay and the receivers look like this also for sale on E-bay Williams Sound PPA Wireless Receiver Hearing Assisted Listening Device 72.1MHz | eBay) at my church and probably a number of others in the area as they got theirs about the same time. I team it with a neckloop more for clarity than volume. I have my own neckloop and have used it with a number of different brands of assistance system including one that I do not know the make/model of at the Cathedral Basilica in St. Louis.

I am hoping this type of arrangement could still be used with a new hearing aid.

rongarrett · 07-05-2012, 08:50 PM

I read that if I use a neckloop on the Landmark FM receiver it will transfer to the Compilot wirelessly. Don't have to plug anything in. The preacher wears a small microphone like phone operators do. That in turn is sent wirelessly to the audio equipment in the back of the seating area. Then sent to loudspeakers fastened to the ceiling. I want to intercept that FM wireless signal and direct it to my HAs. Can't that be done? Compilot is already hooked to cell phone via bluetooth. All my friends and family sit in one section. I want to continue to sit with them.

NaidaUP · 07-06-2012, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rongarrett

I read that if I use a neckloop on the Landmark FM receiver it will transfer to the Compilot wirelessly. Don't have to plug anything in. The preacher wears a small microphone like phone operators do. That in turn is sent wirelessly to the audio equipment in the back of the seating area. Then sent to loudspeakers fastened to the ceiling. I want to intercept that FM wireless signal and direct it to my HAs. Can't that be done? Compilot is already hooked to cell phone via bluetooth. All my friends and family sit in one section. I want to continue to sit with them.

Won't you just be able to switch your aids to t coil and it work?

LoveBlue · 07-06-2012, 05:49 AM

A neckloop transfers the sound to the telecoils in your HA. You need to have a program set for this.
Where did you read that it transfers the sound to the ComPilot?
Since you have the ComPilot you can just use the audio cord that came with it to plug into the receiver.
Not sure you can intercept the signal from the mic.

rongarrett · 07-07-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveBlue

A neckloop transfers the sound to the telecoils in your HA. You need to have a program set for this.
Where did you read that it transfers the sound to the ComPilot?
Since you have the ComPilot you can just use the audio cord that came with it to plug into the receiver.
Not sure you can intercept the signal from the mic.

The neckloop for the Landmark receiver is listed just below the receiver itself with a brief explanation of what it does. It would mean I do not need to have another wire on me.

Iwould assume that if Audi programs an FM program that is all that would be necessary. Most churches transmit on channel 72. Transmission is limited in power so it is available to people very near the church. If one has a receiver that has a channel 72, any transmission on that channel can be tuned in. That is my understanding.
The receiver content has to go thru the Compilot to be streamed to the HAs.

CareyJay · 07-16-2012, 10:23 PM

I had to give in and borrow one from the school for my classes starting last fall. I always sit in the front center anyway, but in most of the lecture halls that's not good enough. It drives me crazy with the wearer constantly bumping it and interference from electronics, but it makes the difference between knowing what the professor is saying or not so I put up with it. I certainly don't use it all the time, just when I have a class in one of the larger rooms.

LoveBlue · 07-17-2012, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rongarrett

The neckloop for the Landmark receiver is listed just below the receiver itself with a brief explanation of what it does. It would mean I do not need to have another wire on me.

Iwould assume that if Audi programs an FM program that is all that would be necessary. Most churches transmit on channel 72. Transmission is limited in power so it is available to people very near the church. If one has a receiver that has a channel 72, any transmission on that channel can be tuned in. That is my understanding.
The receiver content has to go thru the Compilot to be streamed to the HAs.

The neckloop shown in the Landmark site is a t-coil neckloop. It sends the audio of whatever it is plugged into to the t-coils in your HAs. It has nothing to do with FM other than being able to plug into an FM receiver...which you already do with your ComPilot.
The FM program on your HA is only for use with the special, expensive, FM receivers that attach either to your HAs (via a boot) or to your ComPilot (where those 3 tiny holes are on the bottom). These FM receivers do not work with the low (eg 72) FM channels.

rongarrett · 07-17-2012, 02:29 PM

Good to know that. I will just get the landmark receiver and plug it inot my Compilot. I will not pay the high price for Phonak plugins.

07-03-2012, 05:33 PM	#35 (permalink)
AMazieLN Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: California Posts: 89	Ohhhhh ok, this stuff is confusing, lol... __________________ Mazie, 24yrs Phonak Naida S V UP with full shell mold Learning ASL and how to live Deaf with a capital D.

07-03-2012, 11:13 PM	#37 (permalink)
bbaseballboy123 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Connecticut, US Posts: 513	Not mentioning anything direct but a "time" ago, a person in my group needs captioning really bad all the time. So in one of the presentation at a local company, she requested an captioner, the captioner came, however the company could not provide a tv monitor, and they were trying to figure out for 20 minutes how to get captioning... for ONE person out of 20 people. Seriously? Thats some Bullcrap its relates to the FM because yes some technology are awesome, helpful, but not realistic for the real world situation. deafdyke likes this. __________________ Deaf and Smart. Business Major at RIT. Have Bi-lateral cochlear implants. But know ASL as well. Working on a new project that will benefit deaf peeps

07-06-2012, 05:49 AM	#44 (permalink)
LoveBlue Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,360	A neckloop transfers the sound to the telecoils in your HA. You need to have a program set for this. Where did you read that it transfers the sound to the ComPilot? Since you have the ComPilot you can just use the audio cord that came with it to plug into the receiver. Not sure you can intercept the signal from the mic. __________________ Severe-to-profound hearing loss in both ears. SD @ 100db L-88% / R-96% - unaided Phonak Naida IX UPs

07-16-2012, 10:23 PM	#46 (permalink)
CareyJay Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 50 Blog Entries: 2	I had to give in and borrow one from the school for my classes starting last fall. I always sit in the front center anyway, but in most of the lecture halls that's not good enough. It drives me crazy with the wearer constantly bumping it and interference from electronics, but it makes the difference between knowing what the professor is saying or not so I put up with it. I certainly don't use it all the time, just when I have a class in one of the larger rooms. __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My freshman year of college, I had the pleasure of hearing my advisor's description of our field of study: "This is the study of what happens if I stick a screwdriver in your head." ...I love that guy. Simultaneously the most accurate, concise, and creeptastic description ever.

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07-04-2012, 09:45 AM	#39 (permalink)
AlleyCat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my time zone Posts: 10,819	Regarding the workplace, you (general you) could ask your employer to cover the cost of an FM system. The worst they could do is say no. It would be worth a shot as many large employers will cover accommodation costs if it's justified.

07-05-2012, 08:50 PM	#42 (permalink)
rongarrett Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Corinth Georgia Posts: 60	I read that if I use a neckloop on the Landmark FM receiver it will transfer to the Compilot wirelessly. Don't have to plug anything in. The preacher wears a small microphone like phone operators do. That in turn is sent wirelessly to the audio equipment in the back of the seating area. Then sent to loudspeakers fastened to the ceiling. I want to intercept that FM wireless signal and direct it to my HAs. Can't that be done? Compilot is already hooked to cell phone via bluetooth. All my friends and family sit in one section. I want to continue to sit with them.

07-17-2012, 02:29 PM	#48 (permalink)
rongarrett Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Corinth Georgia Posts: 60	Good to know that. I will just get the landmark receiver and plug it inot my Compilot. I will not pay the high price for Phonak plugins.