My old hearing aids...

Cloggy · 05-14-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CreatedNat

that is very good to know. Thank you. I do have a question, for both Cloggy and Grendel, as well as for cdmeggers. How do you keep the CI on a child who is so small? And for cdmeggers (I am so sorry if i am spelling it wrong) does the processor itself hurt behind the ear? I am worried that after the surgery, it would hurt the incision site.

To make a long story short:
Lotte carried them on her shoulders from beginning to about a year ago...
HAve a look here.. and go back in history...

...

Here's a post that explains it..

We had it for so long on her shoulders because we never had to worry about loosing it, and the "Experts" couldn't explain why we HAD to put it on the ears... LOL..
Good times..

**Jiro** · 05-14-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

oh my..... the last time I had a pair of HA like that was.... back in 80's

Frisky Feline · 05-14-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

oh my..... the last time I had a pair of HA like that was.... back in 80's

Me too. I had a bra in front. kids. ha

**Bottesini** · 05-14-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

oh my..... the last time I had a pair of HA like that was.... back in 80's

The old boxes from my childhood were worse!

Frisky Feline · 05-14-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

The old boxes from my childhood were worse!

oh really?? Frist i got a white bra that looks like actually bra. later, my friends dad made the leather bra with my name on it. It looks cooler one. i am disppointed that my mom threw it .. oh no..

**GrendelQ** · 05-14-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

oh my..... the last time I had a pair of HA like that was.... back in 80's

You wore your hearing aids on your back instead of on your ears?

**Bottesini** · 05-14-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GrendelQ

You wore your hearing aids on your back instead of on your ears?

**Jiro** · 05-14-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GrendelQ

You wore your hearing aids on your back instead of on your ears?

front. at that time - there was a HA "vest/suspender" to hold a device.

my HA was something like this

my first HA was a huge box like this -

later model was smaller so I had suspenders with a small pocket on each side to hold a device.

**saywhatkid** · 05-14-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

front. at that time - there was a HA "vest/suspender" to hold a device.

my HA was something like this

my first HA was a huge box like this -

later model was smaller so I had suspenders with a small pocket on each side to hold a device.

Makes me wonder about these parents that implant their infant child; would they be as pushy if the option was this?

**Jiro** · 05-14-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Makes me wonder about these parents that implant their infant child; would they be as pushy if the option was this?

what's good is that my parents flat-out refused to opt for CI and continued to refused it. the thought of implanting a device into my skull horrifies them.

Cloggy · 05-14-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

oh my..... the last time I had a pair of HA like that was.... back in 80's

I'm sure they were much bigger than these...

**GrendelQ** · 05-14-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Makes me wonder about these parents that implant their infant child; would they be as pushy if the option was this?

I think we're very fortunate that CIs and HAs available to today's adults and children are so very different from the HAs of our childhoods.

RoseRodent · 05-15-2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Makes me wonder about these parents that implant their infant child; would they be as pushy if the option was this?

Some would. A friend of mine was either the very first or certainly one of the first to be implanted in the UK. Back then the implant sat out on a kind of stud like the BAHA rather than a magnetic connection, so she had a selection of covers to put over the abutment when she was not wearing the processor (which was always

). She didn't want the implant at all, but her parents pushed and pushed for it as they hoped it would make her "normal" again - they were significantly not supportive, when they met me they thanked me for agreeing to be her friend "What with her being like she is" - they couldn't even say "deaf".

Her implant processor was like the old hearing aids, a massive box on a long string with one of those PP3 9V batteries in it. Really heavy and bulky. She didn't benefit at all and was left with a big thing sticking out of her head and her parents in a rage as they had paid for the operation privately and put the whole family in debt for it and they threw that back in her face for the rest of her life. She has had to wait longer to get explanted over if she agreed to have a newer modern implant put in, as the lists are different. It's "cosmetic" to get rid of the big lump sticking out the side of her head.

Some people are prepared to go to whatever lengths.

eggyman · 05-15-2012, 07:43 AM

Oh my ..... Them little boxes ha,I did wear them when I was kid and I didn't like it to wear
Ha box till I am six yrs old convert to BTE HA .I do remmber I was happy wear
Two BTE ha .The HA boxes are very old techonlogy and look at now new tecnology smaller and powerfull HA .

onlinehearingte · 05-15-2012, 11:22 AM

Laugh, I nearly wet myself.
Seeing the fabulous pictures of the hi children was wonderful. Kids really can teach us oldies a lesson. Forget the problem, get on and play. :-)

Sarfarigirl2011 · 05-15-2012, 05:05 PM

ROFL I used to have a bodyworn FM system kinda like in the pic when I was little

**saywhatkid** · 05-15-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RoseRodent

Some people are prepared to go to whatever lengths.

Yes, that is quite apparent. Same goes for plastic surgery, where the goal is vanity. Maybe they are the same?

I am sad for the parents that look at their deaf child as broken, but as the divide grows between the CI fans and the opposition, with the venom I see, getting your child to bypass the deaf world entirely must be the ultimate goal; more than having a child that hears with a CI. They don't want anything to do with the deaf. They look at the deaf as a flawed people.

Cloggy · 05-15-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Yes, that is quite apparent. Same goes for plastic surgery, where the goal is vanity. Maybe they are the same?

I am sad for the parents that look at their deaf child as broken, but as the divide grows between the CI fans and the opposition, with the venom I see, getting your child to bypass the deaf world entirely must be the ultimate goal; more than having a child that hears with a CI. They don't want anything to do with the deaf. They look at the deaf as a flawed people.

"look at their deaf child as broken"
"bypass the deaf world entirely must be the ultimate goal"
"don't want anything to do with the deaf"
"deaf as a flawed people"

.. and with mis-interpretations, assumptions and insinuations like that... you'll keep the division alive...

**saywhatkid** · 05-15-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

"look at their deaf child as broken"
"bypass the deaf world entirely must be the ultimate goal"
"don't want anything to do with the deaf"
"deaf as a flawed people"

.. and with mis-interpretations, assumptions and insinuations like that... you'll keep the division alive...

I am wrong? Matter of opinion. It looks a lot different when you are the one being discriminated against. Most of us are living it. You are living vicariously in it, through your child.

What do you really know about deafness, other than it is something you do not want in your family?

I have no qualms standing here and keeping the divide growing exponentially, if it keeps the bias going both ways.

CSign · 05-15-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

I am wrong? Matter of opinion. It looks a lot different when you are the one being discriminated against. Most of us are living it. You are living vicariously in it, through your child.

What do you really know about deafness, other than it is something you do not want in your family?

I have no qualms standing here and keeping the divide growing exponentially, if it keeps the bias going both ways.

Does a parent who fills their child's prescription for glasses, view them as broken? What about parents who give their child orthotics, do they view them as broken?

What does "keeping the divide growing exponentially" actually achieve?

Cloggy · 05-15-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

I am wrong? Matter of opinion. It looks a lot different when you are the one being discriminated against. Most of us are living it. You are living vicariously in it, through your child.

What do you really know about deafness, other than it is something you do not want in your family?

I have no qualms standing here and keeping the divide growing exponentially, if it keeps the bias going both ways.

Yes, you are wrong. You are generalising.. That's a bad habit...
"discriminated against."... when.. and why?

"other than it is something you do not want in your family"

It is in my family.. My daughter is deaf. Why would she need to be Deaf..??

What do I need to know about deafness..???

deafdyke · 05-15-2012, 09:16 PM

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It is in my family.. My daughter is deaf. Why would she need to be Deaf..??

So she can have a POSITIVE exeperiance of what it is like to be Deaf.
Being Deaf is not about being hearing impaired or having the best access to sound/the hearing world. It is about adapting to being dhh by being Sighted,(ie having a lifestyle that is very dependent on using sight, rather then being "hearing impaired) and using Sign.
It's exactly like the way being gay and lesbian was patholized, to the point where it used to be considered a mental illness. Now we have reached the point where a friend of mine (who grew up in an extremely leftie household with a lesbian mom) came out a few years ago, and thought she was going to be gay for life. Then she was freaked out that she fell in love with a boy.
My point is that the deaf/hearing impaired approach ignores the fact that dhh peole are very visual. It's not a psychologically healthy way to raise a kid.
Imagine growing up in a culture that pathologized being a man or being a Dutch speaker. It's the same thing.

Cloggy · 05-15-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

So she can have a POSITIVE exeperiance of what it is like to be Deaf.
Being Deaf is not about being hearing impaired or having the best access to sound/the hearing world. It is about adapting to being dhh by being Sighted,(ie having a lifestyle that is very dependent on using sight, rather then being "hearing impaired) and using Sign.
It's exactly like the way being gay and lesbian was patholized, to the point where it used to be considered a mental illness. Now we have reached the point where a friend of mine (who grew up in an extremely leftie household with a lesbian mom) came out a few years ago, and thought she was going to be gay for life. Then she was freaked out that she fell in love with a boy.
My point is that the deaf/hearing impaired approach ignores the fact that dhh peole are very visual. It's not a psychologically healthy way to raise a kid.
Imagine growing up in a culture that pathologized being a man or being a Dutch speaker. It's the same thing.

LOL.. Now we're even using capitals in "Sighted"...
From Deaf, to "Sighted" to "Gay" to "Bisexual" to "not a psychologically healthy way to raise a kid" which is the appearently the same as "being pathologized being a man" or "being a Dutch speaker."

I'm a Dutch speaker.

I'm a man.

Not gay, or bisexual.

Raising a child that was born deaf....

Psychologically she's doing fine... or even better...

I have no idea what you are on about....

Tell your friend it's about love.. Not gender..

overthepond · 05-16-2012, 11:57 AM

This is what i had pre phonak superfonts hearing aids. Those box weighed a ton!!! Glad to see the back of it!

Nat, I cannot speak for children, I am an adult CI user, I had my CI implanted 4 years ago (time flew so quick as it seems like yesterday when i had the op) I had incision running 2/3 inches from the head to top of the ear rounding to bottom, I never had problems with rubbing or any thing like that. Seems major for such a small child but if you are able to use I'd go Cloggy's route (with any devices, there are baby worn options) until she is more mature with using her CI's.

**saywhatkid** · 05-16-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CSign

Does a parent who fills their child's prescription for glasses, view them as broken? What about parents who give their child orthotics, do they view them as broken?

What does "keeping the divide growing exponentially" actually achieve?

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Yes, you are wrong. You are generalising.. That's a bad habit...
"discriminated against."... when.. and why?

"other than it is something you do not want in your family"

It is in my family.. My daughter is deaf. Why would she need to be Deaf..??

What do I need to know about deafness..???

Hearing parents take over a deaf forum, profess their way is better. That is the headline here. Enjoy your site.

CSign · 05-16-2012, 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=saywhatkid;2060997]Hearing parents take over a deaf forum, profess their way is better. That is the headline here. Enjoy your site.[/QUOTE]

You mean all 3 of us?

All 3 of us who took different approaches?

I haven't seen anyone say their way was better. Perhaps what was most appropriate for their child, but never better than another...

And you didn't answer my question...

Edit to add: I hate to break it to you, but "hearing parents" are in the minority here. In terms of regular posters, the significant majority are DHH.

**saywhatkid** · 05-16-2012, 12:52 PM

[quote=CSign;2061000]

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Hearing parents take over a deaf forum, profess their way is better. That is the headline here. Enjoy your site.[/QUOTE]

You mean all 3 of us?

All 3 of us who took different approaches?

I haven't seen anyone say their way was better. Perhaps what was most appropriate for their child, but never better than another...

And you didn't answer my question...

Edit to add: I hate to break it to you, but "hearing parents" are in the minority here. In terms of regular posters, the significant majority are DHH.

As I said, enjoy your site. I gotta go. I will have more another time.

Cloggy · 05-16-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Hearing parents take over a deaf forum, profess their way is better. That is the headline here. Enjoy your site.

**Jiro** · 05-16-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CSign

Does a parent who fills their child's prescription for glasses, view them as broken? What about parents who give their child orthotics, do they view them as broken?

What does "keeping the divide growing exponentially" actually achieve?

fallacious comparisons. apple orange.

how about this? blind children and eye implants? or amputated child and prosthetic leg/wheelchair? or ugly children and plastic surgery?

Cloggy · 05-16-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

fallacious comparisons. apple orange.

how about this? blind children and eye implants? or amputated child and prosthetic leg/wheelchair? or ugly children and plastic surgery?

yeh..

05-15-2012, 05:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sarfarigirl2011 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,997	ROFL I used to have a bodyworn FM system kinda like in the pic when I was little __________________ 18 yr old girl with a moderate/severe in the right and severe on the left. currently wearing purple Oticon Safari P 600s

05-16-2012, 11:57 AM	#24 (permalink)
overthepond Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Great Britain Posts: 2,023	This is what i had pre phonak superfonts hearing aids. Those box weighed a ton!!! Glad to see the back of it! Nat, I cannot speak for children, I am an adult CI user, I had my CI implanted 4 years ago (time flew so quick as it seems like yesterday when i had the op) I had incision running 2/3 inches from the head to top of the ear rounding to bottom, I never had problems with rubbing or any thing like that. Seems major for such a small child but if you are able to use I'd go Cloggy's route (with any devices, there are baby worn options) until she is more mature with using her CI's. Cloggy likes this.

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eggyman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Blackpool Posts: 122 Blog Entries: 1	Oh my ..... Them little boxes ha,I did wear them when I was kid and I didn't like it to wear Ha box till I am six yrs old convert to BTE HA .I do remmber I was happy wear Two BTE ha .The HA boxes are very old techonlogy and look at now new tecnology smaller and powerfull HA .

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onlinehearingte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 14	Laugh, I nearly wet myself. Seeing the fabulous pictures of the hi children was wonderful. Kids really can teach us oldies a lesson. Forget the problem, get on and play. :-)

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CSign Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Best Coast, USA Posts: 3,194	[QUOTE=saywhatkid;2060997]Hearing parents take over a deaf forum, profess their way is better. That is the headline here. Enjoy your site.[/QUOTE] You mean all 3 of us? All 3 of us who took different approaches? I haven't seen anyone say their way was better. Perhaps what was most appropriate for their child, but never better than another... And you didn't answer my question... Edit to add: I hate to break it to you, but "hearing parents" are in the minority here. In terms of regular posters, the significant majority are DHH.