Oceanbreeze

Not to mention bringing up something completely off topic and trying to make it apply to what I was making mention of. Being laid off is entirely circumstantial and doesn't accurately convey the true nature of insurance coverage for the CI or HA in this country. Certainly, if one was laid off, it's possible that they may qualify for medicaid and other benefits; but the person has to look into it to find out if they qualify.

It's absolutely true that not every insurance will pay for the CI; especially for adults. However, there are ways to get an insurance company or medicaid to compel them to pay for the device. There are also other means to obtain HAs. It's not as hopeless as some would want us to believe. If it were, almost NOBODY would be wearing devices.

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saywhatkid

I rest my case.

Cloggy

No you haven't.. You are still bitter about YOU not getting your free CI, so that you take it out on others....

So.. give it a rest...

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flip

May I remind you this is not a FIGHT CLUB thread, normal rules apply here. This post is reported as purely insulting, not adding anything, and breaking a few other rules about discussing CI.

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Cloggy

Flip, you are absolutely correct. My mistake and therefore my sincere apologies.. especially towards saywhatkid.
Saywhatkid: my apologies for that post.

Flip, tell me. What is your background.?
Are you deaf? Deaf? Are you interested in a CI, but cannot obtain one? Not interested?
"BILATERAL SILENCE ACTIVATED 12/11-2010" .. does that mean you lost your hearing, or does it mean you actively decided not to use NA or CI??
Would be interested to get some background before discussing CI further on this (or any other) thread..

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Frisky Feline

you said give it a rest but you still call him something name. what is that?


Add to edit that cloggy wanted to know which one I was referring to. "HIM aka swk."

Cloggy

Huh.. Where?
You mean calling flip "Flip" or calling saywhatkid "Saywhatkid" ??
You need to be more specific, but pleas send me a PM.. Don't want to go off topic in here...

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saywhatkid

HUH??? I don't want one. I play the hand I am dealt. You are the one that cannot imagine life without sounds. I cheerfully accept my situation, and never tried to get implanted. No effort to find insurance by me. Underlined for emphasis.

Enjoy your fight for recognition and respect from members of this site. You have a long battle ahead. None coming from this corner.

saywhatkid

*shrugs*

TXgolfer

And nothing wrong with either.... We all have to play our cards the best way we see fit. I respect both of your decisions.

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saywhatkid

My mention of the insurance issue was not personal; it was for other deaf adults that might want this device. For them, it is not always a simple matter to get finances for these kinds of things. Many insurance companies won't pay for HA, never mind CI with surgery costs.

TXgolfer

I've never had to deal with that so you would know more than me. I do know in Texas DARS will pay for HAs and CIs.....I don't know what the qualifications are though.

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Frisky Feline

I wish that my insurance can cover HA for free while they can cover CI just 50 percents instead of 80.

Bottesini

I wish they could cover them both 100%.

I have damaged nerves and can't benefit from CI, but I would certainly be happy if I had full coverage for a new hearing aid.

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BleedingPurist

The situation regarding insurance between Hearing Aids and Cochlear Implants is very different. It is true, most insurance policies do not cover hearing aids. Cochlear Implants are another matter. They can be appealed and compelled.

BleedingPurist

The problem with that logic is you don't understand that a HA is simply a crutch with very limited capabilities. It can only amplify sound and can not provide hearing. You hear with what you have.. which in most cases is very little. A CI can provide access to hearing, which in most cases is quite a bit. This is why insurance will cover a CI, but not a hearing aid.

Frisky Feline

I know. Like I said before that I wish they could cover HAs that are much cheaper than CI expenses. CI costs pretty high included the expensive device, hosptial and surgery. The more people rely on CI then Bill may put flood insurnace in danger and run out of it while HAs may not. SO, CI is not life threatening. I can understand about the artificial heart or any other things that can be so expensive which is understandable.

Babyblue

Wirelessly posted

Ummm, not true. I hear and function very well with my hearing aids and my insurance paid for it. I do not consider my hearing aid a crutch. I consider it a tool just like some consider a CI a tool.

Frisky Feline

Oh, thanks for pointing the bold word out that i was oversighting. No no it is not a crutch. I am very comfortable with my HA, as well.

BleedingPurist

And your decibel loss is what?

Frisky Feline

Oh that is a strange question. LIke what is your ASL level?

BleedingPurist

So you can hear on the phone without the use of relay or any other assistance? You can hear the full range of speech sounds with no problem?

Frisky Feline

Were you born profoundly Deaf?

BleedingPurist

*Sigh*.. Frisky.. Knock it off.

If your decibel loss places you in the moderate to moderate-severe category.. a HA can help. If it's severe or worst... it isn't. The problem is too many people continue to use a hearing aid not realizing how much they are not hearing. It's very deceptive.

And don't forget.. you are talking to someone who knows what hearing is.. who knows what all levels of hearing aid hearing is.. and who knows how it is to hear again with a CI.

Frisky Feline

So you were born hearing?

Babyblue

Wirelessly posted

I can hear on the phone just fine with my hearing aids. I communicate with others just fine with my hearing aids. Not everyone is the same.

BleedingPurist

No, I was not. I know you were. I do not recommend the CI for you and never have. My point is you are trying to equate a HA with a CI. A HA is appropriate for you because you really don't rely on your hearing. You don't need and probably won't benefit much from additional hearing. A HA is not going to be sufficient for someone with your loss who is post-lingual.

KristinaB

Okay - I owe a big apology to people who I upset or offended. I'm not sure what made me say what I did unless it was just anger and pure frustration. I never ever meant to say that "SEE was crap". I do not feel that way at all. I just know SEE is not for me. Also, I never realized that there were differing views on the "full toolbox" approach for children. I only learned about it here on AD.

Once again, I apologize to any that I upset and offended.

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Babyblue

Wirelessly posted

Then let me make a suggestion. Do not go around telling people that HA is nothing but a crutch. Making it sound like it is not a tool. That is where you got off the wrong foot.

BleedingPurist

I know that all too well. Again, you still have hearing that can be amplified. If you should experience additional loss, as often happens with sensorineural loss, a hearing aid will be limited in what it can do for you. A CI is not. Be mindful of the thread in which you are posting and what the topic is about. There is no argument to be had on this point.