Sexual Fluidity

**shezzbeav** · 08-05-2011, 05:21 AM

I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this concept. It's basically for people who are into other people - regardless of gender. It's like bisexuality, but I don't really relate to the label "bisexual"... I feel more comfortable using the term "sexual fluid".

I can honestly say that I'm sexually fluid - which means, I'd date people - either male or female. It's all about the personality, not gender.

Like this saying goes... love knows no gender

Just wondering if there are people out there who feel that they're sexually fluid

Frisky Feline · 08-05-2011, 05:33 AM

No its a interesting term. So enjoy the sexual fluid then

**shezzbeav** · 08-05-2011, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

No its a interesting term. So enjoy the sexual fluid then

It sure is an interesting concept - there is a lot of articles about it. Google's your best friend

Oh and there's a book about it by Lisa M. Diamond. I should read it sometime!

deafdyke · 08-05-2011, 09:49 PM

Although I'm primarly gay as eff, I haven't dismissed the possibilty of falling for a guy. It is personality for me too.......love knows no gender whatsoever.

**shel90** · 08-05-2011, 10:28 PM

I still think it is bisexuality.

posts from hell · 08-06-2011, 01:40 AM

Blame the English language for that

I see where youre coming from though.

Loghead · 08-07-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I still think it is bisexuality.

It's his or her identity.

**Daredevel7** · 08-07-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I still think it is bisexuality.

I agree.

However, I'd like to know what is shezzbeav's definition of bisexuality. This is where we may differ.

**shel90** · 08-08-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Loghead

It's his or her identity.

I dont understand the need to add more vocabulary to the same concept.

Like how people are saying that deaf children nowadays dont learn speech skills....they are learning spoken language. To me, it is the same thing.

Same with bisexuality and sexual fluidity. No offense.

**Daredevel7** · 08-08-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I dont understand the need to add more vocabulary to the same concept.

Like how people are saying that deaf children nowadays dont learn speech skills....they are learning spoken language. To me, it is the same thing.

Same with bisexuality and sexual fluidity. No offense.

To me, I think sexual fluidity is a term that should exist, but not to describe one's sexual orientation, but rather how FLEXIBLE that orientation is. One can be straight but they can be sexually fluid enough to be attracted to the opposite sex.

In math terms: Orientation = Average (or Mean). Sexual Fluidity = Standard Deviation.

**Daredevel7** · 08-10-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

To me, I think sexual fluidity is a term that should exist, but not to describe one's sexual orientation, but rather how FLEXIBLE that orientation is. One can be straight but they can be sexually fluid enough to be attracted to the opposite sex.

In math terms: Orientation = Average (or Mean). Sexual Fluidity = Standard Deviation.

Oops.. I mean same sex. Just realized my error.. 2 days later!

**ash345** · 08-10-2011, 10:07 PM

there are many terms for things such as this... including pansexual, omnisexual. The biggest difference between a truely sexually fluid person and a bisexual (in the standard sense of the word) is someones true attraction to a person, not what is between their legs or how they identify. This would mean that a person would have no problem being attracted to someone who was born male but identify's as female, vise versa or who doesn't identify with a gender. I have studied this more than most people I know, and am currently working on a research project for it. if you have any questions, let me know.

**Daredevel7** · 08-10-2011, 10:10 PM

What is the difference between a truly sexually fluid person and pansexual/omnisexual? Or are you saying that it's all the same?

**ash345** · 08-11-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

What is the difference between a truly sexually fluid person and pansexual/omnisexual? Or are you saying that it's all the same?

a truely sexually fluid person could be called pansexual or omnisexual, they would not care about a persons identity (gender or sexual) but they would look more towards other traits that appeal to them, such as personality, common interests, that sort of thing. so it is quite different from a bisexual person, and from others definitions of sexually fluid... pansexuality and omnisexuality take into account others who are not of the "gender norms"

**Daredevel7** · 08-11-2011, 03:26 PM

Interesting. Why have pansexual and omnisexual? Why two names?

**ash345** · 08-11-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

Interesting. Why have pansexual and omnisexual? Why two names?

its more of a personal choice on what to call ones self... the meanings are the same when used in the true sense of the word. think of all the other english words that have the same meanings and are different...

dogmom · 08-12-2011, 02:16 PM

I think in certain cultures and communities people are thinking more and more "outside the lines" of traditional gender and sex, including traditional gender orientation scale <straight-bi-gay or lesbian>. So have things like "genderqueer" and "pansexual" and people who are not straight who do oppose gay marriage because they think it pander too much to traditional sex or gender roles and perceptions.
I think this ability to think fluidly and more openly can be a good thing.

**ash345** · 08-12-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmom

I think in certain cultures and communities people are thinking more and more "outside the lines" of traditional gender and sex, including traditional gender orientation scale <straight-bi-gay or lesbian>. So have things like "genderqueer" and "pansexual" and people who are not straight who do oppose gay marriage because they think it pander too much to traditional sex or gender roles and perceptions.
I think this ability to think fluidly and more openly can be a good thing.

Genderqueer is on the gender identity spectrum, they are people who do not identify with a gender... it is not a sexual identity, more of a gender identity.

dogmom · 08-12-2011, 05:49 PM

I understand-

**shezzbeav** · 08-14-2011, 03:26 AM

I don't want my sexual orientation to have a label - be it gay, lesbian, bisexual or straight.
I hate it how today's society is based on 'labels'...

I don't care about the gender - all I care about is personality, and how I connect with that person. Don't have to make it everything about sex these days... I don't care if the person has a penis or a vagina. At the end of the day, we're all human beings.

RachelRene · 08-16-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shezzbeav

I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this concept. It's basically for people who are into other people - regardless of gender. It's like bisexuality, but I don't really relate to the label "bisexual"... I feel more comfortable using the term "sexual fluid".

I can honestly say that I'm sexually fluid - which means, I'd date people - either male or female. It's all about the personality, not gender.

Like this saying goes... love knows no gender

Just wondering if there are people out there who feel that they're sexually fluid

I have always felt that gender and sexuality are much more fluid than people are willing to admit. We like things in boxes, don't we, with the lines clearly drawn. It's human nature to cling to labels, it tells us how to interact with our world.

I love women. Date women. Consider myself 100% dyke... but the label I prefer is queer. I think queer is much more accepting of all the grey areas, in gender, in sexuality, in expression...

I had a friend of mine who has labeled herself as bisexual for years. The other day we were talking, and she was really upset... because right now, she just wants to date women. She's not interested in guys. She was getting pressure from her friends--straight and gay--to pick her label. I told her... well, so if you want to label yourself as lesbian, what's the problem? It doesn't have to be permanent, it doesn't have to feel limiting, and it doesn't negate the previous relationships you had. Labels can change, feelings can change, as a person grows and evolves... and meets new people... Life doesn't stay in one box, life is fluid, why can't sexuality be as well?

Ildri · 08-17-2011, 10:17 PM

I definitely consider myself pansexual- but because that's not a term most people I meet are familiar with, I'll generally just say I'm bisexual.

Grummer · 08-18-2011, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ash345

a truely sexually fluid person could be called pansexual or omnisexual, they would not care about a persons identity (gender or sexual) but they would look more towards other traits that appeal to them, such as personality, common interests, that sort of thing. so it is quite different from a bisexual person, and from others definitions of sexually fluid... pansexuality and omnisexuality take into account others who are not of the "gender norms"

wtf I'VE LOST IT ALREADY LOL

Grummer · 08-18-2011, 07:13 AM

double post, ops

Grummer · 08-18-2011, 07:14 AM

i wonder if woman loves other woman , its that also to do with not just the sex, but the way they can relax talking about clothes or such in great detail? forgive me if that seems stereotyping , just curious, now if this might fit omisexual or pansexual how in what way?

Grummer · 08-18-2011, 07:15 AM

what is pansexual? never heard of it

***VamPyroX*** · 08-18-2011, 08:06 AM

So, if someone were to ask you what your sexual orientation was... what would you say?

"Hello, I'm sexually fluidic?"

PowerON · 08-18-2011, 09:36 AM

I'm sorry, I thought the first thing when I saw the title. I thought it's male who love being squirt on his face from female's.

faesecret · 04-18-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shezzbeav

I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this concept. It's basically for people who are into other people - regardless of gender. It's like bisexuality, but I don't really relate to the label "bisexual"... I feel more comfortable using the term "sexual fluid".

I can honestly say that I'm sexually fluid - which means, I'd date people - either male or female. It's all about the personality, not gender.

Like this saying goes... love knows no gender

Just wondering if there are people out there who feel that they're sexually fluid

I just looked at this post, and I'm not sure if anyone has said this already, but another term for this is "pansexual". I find that sexual fluidity has a certain eloquence to it though

I also happen to be sexually fluid, however I usually just say bisexual so that people dont get confused.

Ildri · 04-20-2012, 08:41 PM

I see someone asked about pansexuality... Basically, it just means that you like people for who they are, and that gender really doesn't come into it. Some prefer this to "bisexual", because BI-sexual implies that there are only two genders. "Pansexual" is more inclusive to transgender people and others who don't feel they fit neatly into the box of either "male" or "female".

08-05-2011, 05:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
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shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,271 Blog Entries: 3	I still think it is bisexuality. Huscurian likes this. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

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ash345 Audist Free Zone Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 806	there are many terms for things such as this... including pansexual, omnisexual. The biggest difference between a truely sexually fluid person and a bisexual (in the standard sense of the word) is someones true attraction to a person, not what is between their legs or how they identify. This would mean that a person would have no problem being attracted to someone who was born male but identify's as female, vise versa or who doesn't identify with a gender. I have studied this more than most people I know, and am currently working on a research project for it. if you have any questions, let me know. shezzbeav likes this. __________________ with a capital D, more than just a state of being, its family, belonging, home "Love and dreams are miraculous, they don't need to be heard or said or translated, only felt" That Deaf Girl

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shezzbeav ...just a bloody beaver Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,236	I don't want my sexual orientation to have a label - be it gay, lesbian, bisexual or straight. I hate it how today's society is based on 'labels'... I don't care about the gender - all I care about is personality, and how I connect with that person. Don't have to make it everything about sex these days... I don't care if the person has a penis or a vagina. At the end of the day, we're all human beings. __________________ LIVE LAUGH LOVE

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08-05-2011, 05:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,206	No its a interesting term. So enjoy the sexual fluid then

08-05-2011, 09:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
deafdyke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 13,078	Although I'm primarly gay as eff, I haven't dismissed the possibilty of falling for a guy. It is personality for me too.......love knows no gender whatsoever.

08-06-2011, 01:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
posts from hell Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,434	Blame the English language for that I see where youre coming from though.

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Daredevel7 Adrenaline Junky Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 4,341	What is the difference between a truly sexually fluid person and pansexual/omnisexual? Or are you saying that it's all the same?

08-11-2011, 03:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Daredevel7 Adrenaline Junky Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 4,341	Interesting. Why have pansexual and omnisexual? Why two names?

08-12-2011, 02:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,470	I think in certain cultures and communities people are thinking more and more "outside the lines" of traditional gender and sex, including traditional gender orientation scale <straight-bi-gay or lesbian>. So have things like "genderqueer" and "pansexual" and people who are not straight who do oppose gay marriage because they think it pander too much to traditional sex or gender roles and perceptions. I think this ability to think fluidly and more openly can be a good thing.

08-17-2011, 10:17 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ildri Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio, for now Posts: 175	I definitely consider myself pansexual- but because that's not a term most people I meet are familiar with, I'll generally just say I'm bisexual.

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Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,508	double post, ops __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein Last edited by Grummer; 08-18-2011 at 06:07 PM.

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Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,508	i wonder if woman loves other woman , its that also to do with not just the sex, but the way they can relax talking about clothes or such in great detail? forgive me if that seems stereotyping , just curious, now if this might fit omisexual or pansexual how in what way? __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein Last edited by Grummer; 08-18-2011 at 06:05 PM.

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Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,508	what is pansexual? never heard of it __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein Last edited by Grummer; 08-18-2011 at 06:02 PM.

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*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 40.18, 58.41 Posts: 34,136	So, if someone were to ask you what your sexual orientation was... what would you say? "Hello, I'm sexually fluidic?" __________________ Check out my city... C L I C K H E R E! (If you've already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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PowerON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 37.5, 126.9 Posts: 10,319 Blog Entries: 5	I'm sorry, I thought the first thing when I saw the title. I thought it's male who love being squirt on his face from female's. __________________ • [Illustrator.Blog-alloon.com] • Don't shoot me! I'm only blogger!

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Ildri Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio, for now Posts: 175	I see someone asked about pansexuality... Basically, it just means that you like people for who they are, and that gender really doesn't come into it. Some prefer this to "bisexual", because BI-sexual implies that there are only two genders. "Pansexual" is more inclusive to transgender people and others who don't feel they fit neatly into the box of either "male" or "female". faesecret likes this. __________________ "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken" -Oscar Wilde

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