A opinion about Christians whining about same sex marriage

**Daredevel7** · 06-30-2011, 03:40 PM

Ask An Atheist » Christian Privilege: Not Being Allowed to Dominate Others Doesn’t Mean You’re Being Oppressed.

I thought this article/blog was a good read. I especially liked this part:

"If someone else is allowed to marry their same-sex partner, the anti-gay marriage advocate is affected in no way, oppressed in no way, their right to hold those beliefs is violated in no way.

Just as orthodox Jews aren’t victims of oppression when other people are allowed to legally watch television and use electric appliances on Saturday. Just as Muslims aren’t victims of oppression when other people are allowed to legally purchase alcohol. Just as Hindus aren’t victims of oppression when other people are legally allowed to eat beef."

It gives sort of a "duh!" moment.

I wonder what Christians have to say about this?

**shel90** · 06-30-2011, 07:59 PM

Right..that's what I dont understand. Do they own the idea of marriage?

**Smithtr** · 07-01-2011, 02:31 PM

wow that is danm it! I am shocked I am surprised I don't understand!
legal is very serious!

StSapphire · 07-01-2011, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

Right..that's what I dont understand. Do they own the idea of marriage?

They very often claim that, yes, they do.

**Smithtr** · 07-01-2011, 02:53 PM

I don't understand what is marriage I am puzzled it no sense! stranger!

**Rio** · 07-03-2011, 05:54 PM

Wirelessly posted

I wish to reply but, unfortunately, a rule is rule no discussion about religion, sorry.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-03-2011, 06:42 PM

I am Christian. We supposed to love them all NO MATTER WHAT. Sadly, not many so called "Christians" love them. Exactly Westboro Bapist Church which has no sense at all.
I love gay people NO MATTER WHAT, I just respect them.

Liza · 07-03-2011, 06:57 PM

Tolerance....tolerance... for all?

For folks who say something like this: "Gays? Get married? No way! Oh! No, no, don't get me wrong I have gay friends... I love 'em!" --- burn in hell, ok?

**Smithtr** · 07-03-2011, 07:06 PM

religion Forbidden AD rule period!I wish I can't discuss posts

StSapphire · 07-04-2011, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rio

I wish to reply but, unfortunately, a rule is rule no discussion about religion, sorry.

Of note - this is generally only enforced when people are getting rude about it. If you don't want to share, that's fine, but the "religious ban" here I've basically only seen thrown about when religious posters want to claim that they're being oppressed, and then occasionally when a thread either starts to get extremely personal or has just gone on extremely long.

If you have something to say, say it!

**Reba** · 07-04-2011, 09:58 AM

It's true that the ban is largely ignored when non-Christians make posts that insult, make false statements about, mock, or denigrate Christians. When Christians make posts opposing the insults, false statements, mockery, and denigration, then the threads are more likely to get locked.

StylizedCarfan · 07-04-2011, 12:36 PM

My opinion is that they're just a reflection of how humanity is like. I'm indifferent toward humanity in general.

DeafCaroline · 07-04-2011, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

Right..that's what I dont understand. Do they own the idea of marriage?

Nicely put! Never thought of it that way till now. Good one. Touché.

**Reba** · 07-04-2011, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

Right..that's what I dont understand. Do they own the idea of marriage?

People don't but God does. He created marriage, and He created it for one man and one woman. He was very specific about what marriage was.

DeafCaroline · 07-04-2011, 01:56 PM

God does? I've yet to see anything he said himself. It's all been written down by men who claimed they know what God said. Give me a break.

rolling7 · 07-04-2011, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

God does? I've yet to see anything he said himself. It's all been written down by men who claimed they know what God said. Give me a break.

You, DC, are HISTORY on here!

So are you saying all those historical famous people who had THEIR words-of-mouth written down by others NEVER said those words written??

If .....throw all the history books out!

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-04-2011, 02:10 PM

If Bible is false, so is history books too.

DeafCaroline · 07-04-2011, 02:12 PM

Word of mouth written down, sure. But don't forget the bible was written 2,000 years ago. Back then they believed in many things, doesn't mean they were true. i.e. that the world was flat.

I do believe Jesus existed and that he was a wondering philosopher and that he became glorified to god-like status much like how the Thais are as reverent of their King as they are of their Buddha. both are sacred in their eyes.

i respect people wanting to believe and respect that they have their faiths but I resent them telling me how I should behave or what I should believe in because some fictional character said so. As far as i am concerned, the bible is a fairy tale filled with fables and parables to teach lessons in morality. Nothing more.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-04-2011, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Word of mouth written down, sure. But don't forget the bible was written 2,000 years ago. Back then they believed in many things, doesn't mean they were true. i.e. that the world was flat.

I do believe Jesus existed and that he was a wondering philosopher and that he became glorified to god-like status much like how the Thais are as reverent of their King as they are of their Buddha. both are sacred in their eyes.

i respect people wanting to believe and respect that they have their faiths but I resent them telling me how I should behave or what I should believe in because some fictional character said so. As far as i am concerned, the bible is a fairy tale filled with fables and parables to teach lessons in morality. Nothing more.

Nobody force you to believe. I believe in God, Jesus and Bible by a choice.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-04-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

As far as i am concerned, the bible is a fairy tale filled with fables and parables to teach lessons in morality. Nothing more.

Also if you think it is all fairy tale. So why Bible foresaw future always right? It wrote 2,000 years ago and they all are right. Just saying.

DeafCaroline · 07-04-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

Nobody force you to believe. I believe in God, Jesus and Bible by a choice.

I respect that completely. All i ask for is the same respect that one doesn't impose their beliefs upon me. It's been known to happen.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-04-2011, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

I respect that completely. All i ask for is the same respect that one doesn't impose their beliefs upon me. It's been known to happen.

Ah I see. I'm glad you respect my believes. So I respect yours too.

DeafCaroline · 07-04-2011, 02:18 PM

JoeyDeafNinja - I am not going to engage in the debate about the bible being always right. it's not going to go anywhere. You will believe what you want and I will believe what I want and let's leave it at that.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-04-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

JoeyDeafNinja - I am not going to engage in the debate about the bible being always right. it's not going to go anywhere. You will believe what you want and I will believe what I want and let's leave it at that.

I was only just saying.

SimonJ · 07-04-2011, 02:24 PM

Religion goes wrong when you have to join the flock, if you live and let live then fine. The trouble is marriage is a religious ceremony, so the religion must accept same sex unions? Does that make any sense?

**Reba** · 07-04-2011, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Word of mouth written down, sure. But don't forget the bible was written 2,000 years ago.

Did you forget the Old Testament?

Quote:

Back then they believed in many things, doesn't mean they were true. i.e. that the world was flat.

God never said that the world was flat, and neither does the Bible. That was not a biblical belief.

Quote:

I do believe Jesus existed and that he was a wondering philosopher and that he became glorified to god-like status much like how the Thais are as reverent of their King as they are of their Buddha. both are sacred in their eyes.

i respect people wanting to believe and respect that they have their faiths but I resent them telling me how I should behave or what I should believe in because some fictional character said so. As far as i am concerned, the bible is a fairy tale filled with fables and parables to teach lessons in morality. Nothing more.

As far as you are concerned....

DeafCaroline · 07-04-2011, 03:04 PM

So if it's written, it must be true? It's because I'm a history major that I know two things: history is full of mistakes, inaccuracies and purposeful distortions. I also know kings and rulers love using religion to control the populace and make them conform. All they have to do is say "God says..." and people fall in line, no questions asked.

But whatever, believe as you wish. But it's futile to argue with me, i've had this debate a thousand times already and nothing will change my views. if you want to debate with others, go for it.

DeafCaroline · 07-04-2011, 03:05 PM

reba - I am saying the bible was written during the times when people believed in lots of things that were proven to be untrue later on.

Believe what you want.

**Rio** · 07-04-2011, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StSapphire

Of note - this is generally only enforced when people are getting rude about it. If you don't want to share, that's fine, but the "religious ban" here I've basically only seen thrown about when religious posters want to claim that they're being oppressed, and then occasionally when a thread either starts to get extremely personal or has just gone on extremely long.

If you have something to say, say it!

I am in agreement with Reba, God created marriage for one man and one woman, simple. Liberal minds just want to hear what they want to hear and make changes according to their agenda.

**Smithtr** · 07-04-2011, 03:07 PM

I agree Reba truth! she is very right!

06-30-2011, 03:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Daredevel7 Adrenaline Junky Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 4,341	A opinion about Christians whining about same sex marriage Ask An Atheist » Christian Privilege: Not Being Allowed to Dominate Others Doesn’t Mean You’re Being Oppressed. I thought this article/blog was a good read. I especially liked this part: "If someone else is allowed to marry their same-sex partner, the anti-gay marriage advocate is affected in no way, oppressed in no way, their right to hold those beliefs is violated in no way. Just as orthodox Jews aren’t victims of oppression when other people are allowed to legally watch television and use electric appliances on Saturday. Just as Muslims aren’t victims of oppression when other people are allowed to legally purchase alcohol. Just as Hindus aren’t victims of oppression when other people are legally allowed to eat beef." It gives sort of a "duh!" moment. I wonder what Christians have to say about this?

06-30-2011, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
shel90 Audist are not welcome Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,504 Blog Entries: 3	Right..that's what I dont understand. Do they own the idea of marriage? __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

07-01-2011, 02:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,811	wow that is danm it! I am shocked I am surprised I don't understand! legal is very serious! __________________

07-01-2011, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,811	I don't understand what is marriage I am puzzled it no sense! stranger! __________________

07-03-2011, 05:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
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07-03-2011, 06:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,281	I am Christian. We supposed to love them all NO MATTER WHAT. Sadly, not many so called "Christians" love them. Exactly Westboro Bapist Church which has no sense at all. I love gay people NO MATTER WHAT, I just respect them. deafdyke and Oceanbreeze like this.

07-03-2011, 06:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Liza Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 4,367 Blog Entries: 2	Tolerance....tolerance... for all? For folks who say something like this: "Gays? Get married? No way! Oh! No, no, don't get me wrong I have gay friends... I love 'em!" --- burn in hell, ok? shel90 and DeafCaroline like this.

07-03-2011, 07:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,811	religion Forbidden AD rule period!I wish I can't discuss posts __________________

07-04-2011, 09:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
Reba Granny Terp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 39,531	It's true that the ban is largely ignored when non-Christians make posts that insult, make false statements about, mock, or denigrate Christians. When Christians make posts opposing the insults, false statements, mockery, and denigration, then the threads are more likely to get locked. Rio, Smithtr, derek7names and 2 others like this.

07-04-2011, 12:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
StylizedCarfan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2	My opinion is that they're just a reflection of how humanity is like. I'm indifferent toward humanity in general.

07-04-2011, 01:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	God does? I've yet to see anything he said himself. It's all been written down by men who claimed they know what God said. Give me a break. shel90, SimonJ and ash345 like this.

07-04-2011, 02:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,281	If Bible is false, so is history books too. __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

07-04-2011, 02:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	Word of mouth written down, sure. But don't forget the bible was written 2,000 years ago. Back then they believed in many things, doesn't mean they were true. i.e. that the world was flat. I do believe Jesus existed and that he was a wondering philosopher and that he became glorified to god-like status much like how the Thais are as reverent of their King as they are of their Buddha. both are sacred in their eyes. i respect people wanting to believe and respect that they have their faiths but I resent them telling me how I should behave or what I should believe in because some fictional character said so. As far as i am concerned, the bible is a fairy tale filled with fables and parables to teach lessons in morality. Nothing more. dogmom and SimonJ like this.

07-04-2011, 02:18 PM	#23 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	JoeyDeafNinja - I am not going to engage in the debate about the bible being always right. it's not going to go anywhere. You will believe what you want and I will believe what I want and let's leave it at that. shel90 and dogmom like this.

07-04-2011, 02:24 PM	#25 (permalink)
SimonJ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 738	Religion goes wrong when you have to join the flock, if you live and let live then fine. The trouble is marriage is a religious ceremony, so the religion must accept same sex unions? Does that make any sense?

07-04-2011, 03:04 PM	#27 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	So if it's written, it must be true? It's because I'm a history major that I know two things: history is full of mistakes, inaccuracies and purposeful distortions. I also know kings and rulers love using religion to control the populace and make them conform. All they have to do is say "God says..." and people fall in line, no questions asked. But whatever, believe as you wish. But it's futile to argue with me, i've had this debate a thousand times already and nothing will change my views. if you want to debate with others, go for it. shel90 and StSapphire like this.

07-04-2011, 03:05 PM	#28 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	reba - I am saying the bible was written during the times when people believed in lots of things that were proven to be untrue later on. Believe what you want.

07-04-2011, 03:07 PM	#30 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,811	I agree Reba truth! she is very right! __________________

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