Hmph, Dating a Transexual? (Warning: You may find a strange truth about me) - Page 2

Oddball · 02-05-2004, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginette

I am not going to go into great detail, there seems to be a lot of minors in this forum. Here is a list of mild ideas I've experimented with, don't knock it until you try it

-Nude Twister.... (you could include baby oil, chocolate syrup etc)

-Let your other senses take over.Take out two blindfolds and put them on each other. Massage each other's hands, toes, thighs, lips, shoulder, arm, and elbow etc.

-Make your own ‘dirty’ movie together. Then watch it & erase it.

-Role Playing Games; Master & Maid, Doctor & Patient, Teacher & Student, Electrician & Loney Housewife.

-Striptease, Lapdancing etc

-Playing with temperature heightens your sensations. Run an ice-cube over each other's hot skin. To heat things up, take a cup of hot fruity tea to bed with you, sip it and then wrap your mouth around your lover's most sensitive parts.

-Read your partner erotic fantasies. There are lots of books or magazines that have stories in them. Or you can even share your own fantasies.

-Scatter rosebuds over your bodies and the bed before you make love. The petals will become crushed between your sweaty bodies, scenting your sex.

There are so many things partners can do to spice up their "love" life. I've tried a lot of different things, and found that it really helped my husband and I connect.
If you guys would like me to post more tips let me know, perhaps we could start a thread in the Penisarium.

WHOA... you have excellent examples of sexual activities. SMILES

CJJ3M · 02-09-2004, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ^Angel^

What about you Liza?...U haven't said if you would or wouldn't.....

For myself here....There nothing wrong with just going out as friends....

How could I help not wanting to marry a fine awesome sweet deaf girl like you? Every mans dream??? May life always be good to you! "wink"

BabyPhat21 · 02-09-2004, 03:43 AM

this reminds me of the movie the crying game...........

Kalista · 02-12-2004, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly Free

Cheri -- enjoy with ur man whoever that is (perhaps Vampy qq

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We may put a cam web on their computer. We can watch them.

Like "America Pie" movie.

magican · 04-24-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gnarlydorkette

This may come as a shock to many folks but this has been spun off from another thread somewhere where people discussed about whether they approve the transsexuals or not....

I have given this a lot of thoughts. I wonder if you have a chance to date a trannsexual, given that they have a completed sex change operation- would you go out with them because techinally they are the opposite sex...even though they were the same sex before?

I had thought about this for a LONG time because this is something interesting (okay- a secret unveiled- My imagination of mine loves to have one of those strange/unordinary relationship... Exotic and so on...) and I have concluded that I would not mind dating a transexual that used to be a woman. (Transexual lesbian..... er, is that the right word?)
Now, another personal information unveiled- I can't be a lesbian with a normal woman. Don't misunderstand this statement- I have nothing against the lesbians/gays, in fact, I love them because they are the coolest folks but personally I cannot handle bing a lesbian. Because that would mean that I have to deal somebody of the same sex who have breasts... and a bush... that would probably create some insecurity for me because I know I am one big ("voluptuous" as people said) girl and i never have met a girl that has a same size with me regarding with the figure and so on... so if I turn a lesbian, I will have to deal with those girls who have flat chest compared to me, and so on... what is fun in that? I don't like to be the big person in a relationship.

But---
If this lady has a sex change operation where she ends up having a penis and a flat chest (anything less A) and at least of course taller than me (a standard going the same for the males), then I will date her.

So what about you guys/girls? Would you date a complete transexual?
(This was also inspired from watching "A Solider's Girl", a very sad story based on a true person and events)

i have dating alots of transseuals and she-male it made me feel good

Cane Corso · 05-03-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gnarlydorkette

But---
If this lady has a sex change operation where she ends up having a penis and a flat chest (anything less A) )

She can have a fake penis, but it will not stand up like a normal penis. She and you will have to use a fake penis toy for intercourse. Having this kind of sugery will not be permant, the person still have to take hormone pills everyday.

Similar to women who get breast implants, she will have to replace them once every 10 years. Is this a one time thing? Sorry I gotta say no.

PuyoPiyo · 05-04-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gnarlydorkette

haha @ "Being bi means you have a lot more to chose from!"

naw, Being a bisexual means you are indecisive! ;-)

Bisexual as indecisive? Nah, I am bi. I love to get in bed with either boys or girls. I just love to hug with both of them. I like frenching kissing with both of them. I like to feel the penis on my ass, or my penis on other ass.

That is REAL Bisexuality. (Seriously, I feel that way)

And I think "Unsure of Sexual Orientation" is what you look for, or maybe "Self-Masturbation"?

And my answer to your question, now I am going back to the point of this thread, sorry if I making off-topic

I wouldn't mind to stay with a transexuality, really. No matter which gender he/she was or now are, I still love him/her. What's the point of rejecting someone? Body is just a thing.

I am a anti-genderism, if you want to know why I feel that way.

iThomas · 07-08-2007, 12:01 AM

I have hearing friends who are transgendered. I see their real happiness although they undergo through hard times. They need human rights and support. I am one of them.

PuyoPiyo · 07-08-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by iThomas

I have hearing friends who are transgendered. I see their real happiness although they undergo through hard times. They need human rights and support. I am one of them.

Yupp people who successfully changed their sex status are usually very happy than their past sex status. I am one of them too, as Androgyne.

BTW I love your avator! That dog remind of my dog, Holly but sadly she died from breast cancer.. She's the best dog I ever had.

iThomas · 07-08-2007, 12:33 AM

Thank you for loving my avator. I like beagle breed very much. I would like to know you more. Can we meet for MSN chat?

Deafilmedia · 07-08-2007, 12:44 AM

No.

It isn't because I want kids or anything like that...

I said NO, because honestly... I think they belong to the mental institute.

I just don't believe that they were born with a wrong genitals....
They are messing with nature... and it isn't right....

They should accept for who they are...

And if they think about fooling me.... I'll find out anyway... I'll look in the bathroom and see any hormone medication they are taking everyday.
I'll look at their birth certificate or look in hospital file. Or old newspaper.

And they better show me some sperm cumming out their penis too... and real balls...

Deafilmedia · 07-08-2007, 01:46 AM

and men, if you are unsure that you're dating a fake woman...
then ask her about her past and look for old photos of her childhood and all...
And ask what school she goes to, like Elementary School... so
you can ask for school record.

Cause I heard mtof people trick men.

PuyoPiyo · 07-08-2007, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

No.

It isn't because I want kids or anything like that...

I said NO, because honestly... I think they belong to the mental institute.

I just don't believe that they were born with a wrong genitals....
They are messing with nature... and it isn't right....

They should accept for who they are...

And if they think about fooling me.... I'll find out anyway... I'll look in the bathroom and see any hormone medication they are taking everyday.
I'll look at their birth certificate or look in hospital file. Or old newspaper.

And they better show me some sperm cumming out their penis too... and real balls...

*remove you from my ignore list* *sigh*, Transsexual are doing this because of the physology, not the physical. To transsexuals, the body is just a thing. I can still see my own femme side inside me, and mascline side inside me at the same time. It's normal that many people have that. Some of men have too much of femme side inside them so they decide to change as woman to fix their own interests. I don't like when people are hiding their opposite sex inside them, I want to know who they are. I don't want to see their sad face and hiding who they are, it just don't work that way. They show who they are, they will be happy. As for who they are, are at the brain, not the physical.

I have been showing alot of femme side on me like I am good at the spelling, I play with dolls when I was child, I can't stand football, baseball, etc. I am very soft hearted, I like the pink color, and are purple freak, many things. Also I show my own masculine side too, I am good at the math, I love video games so much, I am crazy over the technology, I like to debate, I am very into the architects, many more.

And about the cumming you mentioned to, when a man take the hormones pills, the penis don't go ercet or make the sperm again. That goes for women too, when a woman take the hormones pills (testrone pills), they don't develop any eggs anymore. Do the online research.

I am not sure if you know any transsexual people, but I know some of them, and they are more happier than their own past gender which makes me happier too.

I don't know if you are going to bash me again, but that is the best I can explain, very kindly...

PuyoPiyo · 07-08-2007, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by iThomas

Thank you for loving my avator. I like beagle breed very much. I would like to know you more. Can we meet for MSN chat?

Well I am sorry I don't have MSN... But nice to meet you

You can always pm to me

Aleser · 07-08-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

I just don't believe that they were born with a wrong genitals....
They are messing with nature... and it isn't right....

They should accept for who they are...

While I personally think you're an idiot not worth replying to, I'm going to say this for the sake of it being an all to wide-held view.

Every surgery you get is messing with nature. Every time you pop some naproxen for a backache, you're messing with nature. If you go on antibiotics, you're messing with nature. For the 90,000+ people in the us on the UNOS list (united network for organ sharing), they're waiting for something as unnatural as it gets- switching organs with a dead person.

Did it ever cross your insanely small little mind that maybe that's exactly what they're doing, accepting themseleves after a usually long struggle with coming out to themselves and others? By what right do you judge them for that?

You know that whole "walk a mile in my shoes" thing? If you can't do it, don't judge.

Deafilmedia · 07-08-2007, 03:17 PM

Transsexual are doing this because of the physology, not the physical. To transsexuals, the body is just a thing. I can still see my own femme side inside me, and mascline side inside me at the same time. It's normal that many people have that. Some of men have too much of femme side inside them so they decide to change as woman to fix their own interests. I don't like when people are hiding their opposite sex inside them, I want to know who they are. I don't want to see their sad face and hiding who they are, it just don't work that way. They show who they are, they will be happy. As for who they are, are at the brain, not the physical.

Everybody dislike who they are. I don't want to be a female... because of mentrual cycle... I accept whatever God gave me. I used to be a tomboy.

I have been showing alot of femme side on me like I am good at the spelling, I play with dolls when I was child, I can't stand football, baseball, etc. I am very soft hearted, I like the pink color, and are purple freak, many things. Also I show my own masculine side too, I am good at the math, I love video games so much, I am crazy over the technology, I like to debate, I am very into the architects, many more.

I played dolls when I was a child too... I would have love to play football and baseball... but I can't play sports outside because my eyes are too sensitive to the sun.

And about the cumming you mentioned to, when a man take the hormones pills, the penis don't go ercet or make the sperm again. That goes for women too, when a woman take the hormones pills (testrone pills), they don't develop any eggs anymore. Do the online research.

we suppose reproduce. Imagine if white Americans stop reproducing... then USA will be taken over by Non White Americans.

I am not sure if you know any transsexual people, but I know some of them, and they are more happier than their own past gender which makes me happier too.

I met one. And it is silly.

Deafilmedia · 07-08-2007, 03:55 PM

While I personally think you're an idiot not worth replying to, I'm going to say this for the sake of it being an all to wide-held view.

YAWN!!!!

Every surgery you get is messing with nature. Every time you pop some naproxen for a backache, you're messing with nature. If you go on antibiotics, you're messing with nature. For the 90,000+ people in the us on the UNOS list (united network for organ sharing), they're waiting for something as unnatural as it gets- switching organs with a dead person.

Backache, God gave us plants to make medicine... and I don't think Jesus, the miracle herb man, wants us to suffer. God bless us with Scientists and
Doctors to invent antibiotics. Organ sharing is okay.
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT, a normal person who is very healthy
and can reproduce, who decide to SELF-MULITILATION, cut off their private part.... and take HORMONE all of their LIFE... and for WHAT???
To seek attention? To say, "I'm a woman!!!" And try on dresses and makeup and high heel shoes.....? What is so great about these things? If you look around... Most women love to wear jeans, pant, tennis shoes... some of them don't wear makeup, only to cover up their ugly face as they get older. Imagine Oprah without makeup, eww. Even male Actors wear makeup, George Bush wore makeup before he show his face on tv. I hate high heel shoes, I NEVER WEAR THEM, cause I HATE THEM.... I love tennis shoes. Last time I wore a dress,,, it was hmmmmmm during my Granddad's funeral and I was hmmmmm 20 something. And now I am 36, I haven't wore a dress since then.
I hate MAKEUP... it is too MESSY... yeah it makes you look great... but it causes BLACKHEADS, pimples, and BUMPS... I tried so hard to wash these stupid makeup off my face.... and I hate LIPSTICKS, cause it gets on my teeth.
And I HATE DOING MY HAIR, I went to a barber shop last year and the barber trimmed my hair.... I like that... it is better than getting PERMS that burn my scalp. Do you think I enjoy being a FEMALE, NO!!! Do you think I would love to have a HUGE BABY coming out of my VAGINA!!!! NO!!! I know it is a wonderful experience.... my cousin and my sister had their babies, and they said HELL NO, they want anymore CHILDREN, cause of labor pain and problem. My AUNT almost DIED and her baby was BORN DEAD....
It is a scary thing....

And I don't know what is wrong with being a MAN, if you don't want
to be macho, then you don't have to be.... you don't have to sleep with women. You don't have to shave, you can get hair removal. You don't have to wear those ugly suit. Just be yourself and put on casual clothes. Lay back and enjoy life. And what is wrong with a penis? It is better than sitting down and pee and wipe yourself with toliet paper and have urine on your hands.
I would rather have a penis, I can just stand up and pee in the toliet bowl, no problem.

Did it ever cross your insanely small little mind that maybe that's exactly what they're doing, accepting themseleves after a usually long struggle with coming out to themselves and others? By what right do you judge them for that?

You don't see animals struggle with their genders, do you? I don't see my male dogs bite off their genitals so they can become females, do you? No.

You know that whole "walk a mile in my shoes" thing? If you can't do it, don't judge.

so if 2 people came to you..... Person A, got tumors on his face and causing severe problem to his nerves and Person B, just want a sex change.
It costs Person A, $25,000 to have a successful surgery, have all tumors removed from his face. And it costs Person B, $25,000 to have sex change.
And you only have $25,000, and they asked you for the $25,000... who will you give the money to??? Who has more severe health problem?

PuyoPiyo · 07-08-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

Everybody dislike who they are. I don't want to be a female... because of mentrual cycle... I accept whatever God gave me. I used to be a tomboy.

That is up to you, that doesn't mean to stop other people from do the sexual reassigment surgery.

I played dolls when I was a child too... I would have love to play football and baseball... but I can't play sports outside because my eyes are too sensitive to the sun.

You are showing your masculine side there!

we suppose reproduce. Imagine if white Americans stop reproducing... then USA will be taken over by Non White Americans.

Not only USA that have the transsexuals, Europe have the higher percent of transsexuals than any of countries, and Thailand is one of the famous that do the sexual reassigment surgery, also there is numberous of transsexuals in China, and India have the special "third sexual person" which are called Hijra. Most of the transsexual people are already married and have children.

I met one. And it is silly.

Really? Was it silly? :chuckle:

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Deafilmedia · 07-08-2007, 04:23 PM

That is up to you, that doesn't mean to stop other people from do the sexual reassigment surgery.

Well they shouldn't fool anybody and try to date. Just like that teenager tranny got killed by 2 men who found out she was a he.
They can do sexual reassignment surgery, but don't fool anyone to date you.

If a FtoM wants to date me, he needs to be honest with me... I might go ahead and date that person and get to know him....
And I don't want to live in a lie if he decides to lie and not be honest with me.
It is the same as a person sending you wrong picture on the internet and lie to you.... and then when you go meet him in person... he isn't the person you thought he would be, don't look like the person on the picture.. and Liars are wrong...

If I am not comfortable with being with a FtoM,,, then he needs to respect me and he needs to find somebody else who is open minded. And
if he can't find anybody to date with...
Then that is his problem....

You are showing your masculine side there!

There is nothing wrong with that. I can be masculine and be a female at the same time and date men. It would be nice for men to take me out on a date to FOOTBALL GAMES.... It would be cool for a man to give me a football for my birthday, he doesn't have to buy me a rose. It would be more romantic to play football with him outside when it isn't too sunny...

Not only USA that have the transsexuals, Europe have the higher percent of transsexuals than any of countries, and Thailand is one of the famous that do the sexual reassigment surgery, also there is numberous of transsexuals in China, and India have the special "third sexual person" which are called Hijra. Most of the transsexual people are already married and have children.

I know. If you learn Astrology, then you will understand why that happen...
Sometimes it could be in the 6th house of health and 3rd house of mind

But anyway.... if a man feels he got too much feminine side, why can't he take the testerone hormone pills, instead of estrogen and pay thousands of dollars for sex change?

And if a female feels she got too much masculine side, why can't she take estrogen hormone pills, instead of testerone and pay thousands of dollars for sex change?

BTW... Puyo and Alesa, if you want me to give you an astrology reading... I can check your chart and help you figure out why you are that way.
Reason why i am this way... because I got Mercury Rx
and yes I am WEIRD and talk stupid.
And plus I am not open minded because I have a lot
of FIXED SIGN... which cause me to be STUBBORN.
And also Conservative signs... I got Saturn in Taurus,,, close mind, Sun in Capricorn, close mind, Mercury in Capricorn, close mind, Mercury rules thinking.... Capricorn rules conservative... SO I am thinking in a conservative way.

Cool huh?

PuyoPiyo · 07-08-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

Well they shouldn't fool anybody and try to date. Just like that teenager tranny got killed by 2 men who found out she was a he.
They can do sexual reassignment surgery, but don't fool anyone to date you.

If a FtoM wants to date me, he needs to be honest with me... I might go ahead and date that person and get to know him....
And I don't want to live in a lie if he decides to lie and not be honest with me.
It is the same as a person sending you wrong picture on the internet and lie to you.... and then when you go meet him in person... he isn't the person you thought he would be, don't look like the person on the picture.. and Liars are wrong...

If I am not comfortable with being with a FtoM,,, then he needs to respect me and he needs to find somebody else who is open minded. And
if he can't find anybody to date with...
Then that is his problem....

Yeah I agree, it's wrong to lie. Boys Don't Cry movie is the example, but it is still very wrong to kill. If I am MtoF I would never lie to anyone that I was a man before, and would be very openly that I am a transsexual.

There is nothing wrong with that. I can be masculine and be a female at the same time and date men. It would be nice for men to take me out on a date to FOOTBALL GAMES.... It would be cool for a man to give me a football for my birthday, he doesn't have to buy me a rose. It would be more romantic to play football with him outside when it isn't too sunny...

Correctly, there is nothing wrong about a gender doing its opposite.

I know. If you learn Astrology, then you will understand why that happen...
Sometimes it could be in the 6th house of health and 3rd house of mind

But anyway.... if a man feels he got too much feminine side, why can't he take the testerone hormone pills, instead of estrogen and pay thousands of dollars for sex change?

And if a female feels she got too much masculine side, why can't she take estrogen hormone pills, instead of testerone and pay thousands of dollars for sex change?

Well, it depends on what they want. Money is nothing, the important is their own heart. I really want to remove my adam's apple, it's too big and it cost me $2500. I know it is very pricy, but I will be very happy with my neck. I can't stand touching my neck with my adam's apple, and always feel ashamed when people told me that I have too big adam's apple. (I didn't remove my adam's apple yet, but are forwarding to remove it) That goes the same for transsexuals, if a man don't want his body to be masculine, then he could be happy with softer skins, less hairs, less muscles just like the femmes.

BTW... Puyo and Alesa, if you want me to give you an astrology reading... I can check your chart and help you figure out why you are that way.
Reason why i am this way... because I got Mercury Rx
and yes I am WEIRD and talk stupid.
And plus I am not open minded because I have a lot
of FIXED SIGN... which cause me to be STUBBORN.
And also Conservative signs... I got Saturn in Taurus,,, close mind, Sun in Capricorn, close mind, Mercury in Capricorn, close mind, Mercury rules thinking.... Capricorn rules conservative... SO I am thinking in a conservative way.

Cool huh?

Sure, I am interested! I already know that my bday is June 8 at Saturn, as Gemini.

Deafilmedia · 07-08-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Sure, I am interested! I already know that my bday is June 8 at Saturn, as Gemini.

You can PM me....

I need birth year, birthplace, and birthtime... so I know where your Ascendant is located.

Aleser · 07-08-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

so if 2 people came to you..... Person A, got tumors on his face and causing severe problem to his nerves and Person B, just want a sex change.
It costs Person A, $25,000 to have a successful surgery, have all tumors removed from his face. And it costs Person B, $25,000 to have sex change.
And you only have $25,000, and they asked you for the $25,000... who will you give the money to??? Who has more severe health problem?

Neither. It's my money, they can't have it.

Aleser · 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

But anyway.... if a man feels he got too much feminine side, why can't he take the testerone hormone pills, instead of estrogen and pay thousands of dollars for sex change?

And if a female feels she got too much masculine side, why can't she take estrogen hormone pills, instead of testerone and pay thousands of dollars for sex change?

You are just tempting me to say some very unislamic swearwords.

Estrogen will not make a FtM a woman. He HAS estrogen.

Testosterone will not male a MtF a man again. It might make him violent, agressive, and a risk to others. But it will not change the psychological nature of being trans.

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Also, if you don't think animals in nature are ever diviant, you haven't met my gay birds. They get it on.

PuyoPiyo · 07-08-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleser

You are just tempting me to say some very unislamic swearwords.

Estrogen will not make a FtM a woman. He HAS estrogen.

Testosterone will not male a MtF a man again. It might make him violent, agressive, and a risk to others. But it will not change the psychological nature of being trans.

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Also, if you don't think animals in nature are ever diviant, you haven't met my gay birds. They get it on.

Correctly, the hormones does not make a person completely change, those are not magical pills.

And yes gay animals do exist, I was used to have two male guinea pigs and they sometimes fucking together and always sleep together.

***VamPyroX*** · 07-09-2007, 12:05 PM

Hmm... this brings up an interesting concept:

A straight man is a man who likes women. A straight woman is a woman who likes men. Therefore, Straight men date straight women.

A gay man is a man who likes other men. A lesbian woman is a woman who likes women. Therefore, gay men date other gay men and lesbian women date other lesbian women.

Now, here's the new question...

A man dates a transgendered man who thinks he's a woman. Does it make this man gay? Physically, he's dating a man. Mentally, he's dating a woman. However, how does society view it?

Deafilmedia · 07-09-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleser

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Also, if you don't think animals in nature are ever diviant, you haven't met my gay birds. They get it on.

That is animal cruelty....

It is just like putting 2 males in jail for years... and they get it on...
just like prison...

Should have one female bird and one male bird....

PuyoPiyo · 07-09-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Hmm... this brings up an interesting concept:

A straight man is a man who likes women. A straight woman is a woman who likes men. Therefore, Straight men date straight women.

A gay man is a man who likes other men. A lesbian woman is a woman who likes women. Therefore, gay men date other gay men and lesbian women date other lesbian women.

That is why I don't call gay men as "fag". The word "gay" doesn't mean that in first place. That goes for women too, lesbian doesn't mean they are dyke in the first place.

Now, here's the new question...

A man dates a transgendered man who thinks he's a woman. Does it make this man gay? Physically, he's dating a man. Mentally, he's dating a woman. However, how does society view it?

And as for your question.. It depends how that man view his panther as transsexual woman. If he look at the transsexual woman's soul, then he's straight. If he look at that transsexual woman's physical instead of soul, then he's gay because of modifying the male's body into female to safisty his desires.

I know some two transsexual women do the sexual reassignment surgery so that they can have good sex together, they don't like to sex in the gay way but prefer the lesbian way. Oddly ne?

If I am transsexual woman, I would consider myself as straight because I have the vagina and want man as my panther.

Also I believe when people tell that other man who are dating a transsexual woman as "gay" are quite of bashing and seems are more offensive to the transsexual woman compare to the man who are dating with transsexual woman.

That's all I can answer to your question.

Aleser · 07-09-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

That is animal cruelty....

It is just like putting 2 males in jail for years... and they get it on...
just like prison...

Should have one female bird and one male bird....

.. we don't just have two birds. We have females, they just happen to not like them.

Also, we don't cage them when we're home. We leave the front of their houses open so they get around and socialize and all.

Aleser · 07-09-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

A man dates a transgendered man who thinks he's a woman. Does it make this man gay? Physically, he's dating a man. Mentally, he's dating a woman. However, how does society view it?

You used "man" and "he's", which sort of sets the negetive light on the rest of the post.

If a person is MtF, even if they are just starting to transition(I don't JUST mean surgically, I mean wearing female clothes, doing a year real life, ect), the man dating them would be in a hetrosexual relationship, imho.

Deafilmedia · 07-09-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleser

.. we don't just have two birds. We have females, they just happen to not like them.

Also, we don't cage them when we're home. We leave the front of their houses open so they get around and socialize and all.

well get a male bird... so these female birds can fight over him, hee hee.

07-08-2007, 12:01 AM	#38 (permalink)
iThomas New Man Today Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	I have hearing friends who are transgendered. I see their real happiness although they undergo through hard times. They need human rights and support. I am one of them. __________________ Have I vanquished my enemy? None than myself. Learning without thinking is labor lost; thinking without learning is perilous. - The Analects (7,8) Confucius

07-08-2007, 12:33 AM	#40 (permalink)
iThomas New Man Today Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	Thank you for loving my avator. I like beagle breed very much. I would like to know you more. Can we meet for MSN chat? __________________ Have I vanquished my enemy? None than myself. Learning without thinking is labor lost; thinking without learning is perilous. - The Analects (7,8) Confucius

07-09-2007, 12:05 PM	#55 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 31,473	Hmm... this brings up an interesting concept: A straight man is a man who likes women. A straight woman is a woman who likes men. Therefore, Straight men date straight women. A gay man is a man who likes other men. A lesbian woman is a woman who likes women. Therefore, gay men date other gay men and lesbian women date other lesbian women. Now, here's the new question... A man dates a transgendered man who thinks he's a woman. Does it make this man gay? Physically, he's dating a man. Mentally, he's dating a woman. However, how does society view it? __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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BabyPhat21 Sex Univ. Head Mistress Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CALI Posts: 3,107	this reminds me of the movie the crying game...........

07-08-2007, 12:44 AM	#41 (permalink)
Deafilmedia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,579	No. It isn't because I want kids or anything like that... I said NO, because honestly... I think they belong to the mental institute. I just don't believe that they were born with a wrong genitals.... They are messing with nature... and it isn't right.... They should accept for who they are... And if they think about fooling me.... I'll find out anyway... I'll look in the bathroom and see any hormone medication they are taking everyday. I'll look at their birth certificate or look in hospital file. Or old newspaper. And they better show me some sperm cumming out their penis too... and real balls...

07-08-2007, 01:46 AM	#42 (permalink)
Deafilmedia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,579	and men, if you are unsure that you're dating a fake woman... then ask her about her past and look for old photos of her childhood and all... And ask what school she goes to, like Elementary School... so you can ask for school record. Cause I heard mtof people trick men.

07-08-2007, 03:17 PM	#46 (permalink)
Deafilmedia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,579	Transsexual are doing this because of the physology, not the physical. To transsexuals, the body is just a thing. I can still see my own femme side inside me, and mascline side inside me at the same time. It's normal that many people have that. Some of men have too much of femme side inside them so they decide to change as woman to fix their own interests. I don't like when people are hiding their opposite sex inside them, I want to know who they are. I don't want to see their sad face and hiding who they are, it just don't work that way. They show who they are, they will be happy. As for who they are, are at the brain, not the physical. Everybody dislike who they are. I don't want to be a female... because of mentrual cycle... I accept whatever God gave me. I used to be a tomboy. I have been showing alot of femme side on me like I am good at the spelling, I play with dolls when I was child, I can't stand football, baseball, etc. I am very soft hearted, I like the pink color, and are purple freak, many things. Also I show my own masculine side too, I am good at the math, I love video games so much, I am crazy over the technology, I like to debate, I am very into the architects, many more. I played dolls when I was a child too... I would have love to play football and baseball... but I can't play sports outside because my eyes are too sensitive to the sun. And about the cumming you mentioned to, when a man take the hormones pills, the penis don't go ercet or make the sperm again. That goes for women too, when a woman take the hormones pills (testrone pills), they don't develop any eggs anymore. Do the online research. we suppose reproduce. Imagine if white Americans stop reproducing... then USA will be taken over by Non White Americans. I am not sure if you know any transsexual people, but I know some of them, and they are more happier than their own past gender which makes me happier too. I met one. And it is silly.

07-08-2007, 03:55 PM	#47 (permalink)
Deafilmedia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,579	While I personally think you're an idiot not worth replying to, I'm going to say this for the sake of it being an all to wide-held view. YAWN!!!! Every surgery you get is messing with nature. Every time you pop some naproxen for a backache, you're messing with nature. If you go on antibiotics, you're messing with nature. For the 90,000+ people in the us on the UNOS list (united network for organ sharing), they're waiting for something as unnatural as it gets- switching organs with a dead person. Backache, God gave us plants to make medicine... and I don't think Jesus, the miracle herb man, wants us to suffer. God bless us with Scientists and Doctors to invent antibiotics. Organ sharing is okay. BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT, a normal person who is very healthy and can reproduce, who decide to SELF-MULITILATION, cut off their private part.... and take HORMONE all of their LIFE... and for WHAT??? To seek attention? To say, "I'm a woman!!!" And try on dresses and makeup and high heel shoes.....? What is so great about these things? If you look around... Most women love to wear jeans, pant, tennis shoes... some of them don't wear makeup, only to cover up their ugly face as they get older. Imagine Oprah without makeup, eww. Even male Actors wear makeup, George Bush wore makeup before he show his face on tv. I hate high heel shoes, I NEVER WEAR THEM, cause I HATE THEM.... I love tennis shoes. Last time I wore a dress,,, it was hmmmmmm during my Granddad's funeral and I was hmmmmm 20 something. And now I am 36, I haven't wore a dress since then. I hate MAKEUP... it is too MESSY... yeah it makes you look great... but it causes BLACKHEADS, pimples, and BUMPS... I tried so hard to wash these stupid makeup off my face.... and I hate LIPSTICKS, cause it gets on my teeth. And I HATE DOING MY HAIR, I went to a barber shop last year and the barber trimmed my hair.... I like that... it is better than getting PERMS that burn my scalp. Do you think I enjoy being a FEMALE, NO!!! Do you think I would love to have a HUGE BABY coming out of my VAGINA!!!! NO!!! I know it is a wonderful experience.... my cousin and my sister had their babies, and they said HELL NO, they want anymore CHILDREN, cause of labor pain and problem. My AUNT almost DIED and her baby was BORN DEAD.... It is a scary thing.... And I don't know what is wrong with being a MAN, if you don't want to be macho, then you don't have to be.... you don't have to sleep with women. You don't have to shave, you can get hair removal. You don't have to wear those ugly suit. Just be yourself and put on casual clothes. Lay back and enjoy life. And what is wrong with a penis? It is better than sitting down and pee and wipe yourself with toliet paper and have urine on your hands. I would rather have a penis, I can just stand up and pee in the toliet bowl, no problem. Did it ever cross your insanely small little mind that maybe that's exactly what they're doing, accepting themseleves after a usually long struggle with coming out to themselves and others? By what right do you judge them for that? You don't see animals struggle with their genders, do you? I don't see my male dogs bite off their genitals so they can become females, do you? No. You know that whole "walk a mile in my shoes" thing? If you can't do it, don't judge. so if 2 people came to you..... Person A, got tumors on his face and causing severe problem to his nerves and Person B, just want a sex change. It costs Person A, $25,000 to have a successful surgery, have all tumors removed from his face. And it costs Person B, $25,000 to have sex change. And you only have $25,000, and they asked you for the $25,000... who will you give the money to??? Who has more severe health problem?

07-08-2007, 04:23 PM	#49 (permalink)
Deafilmedia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,579	That is up to you, that doesn't mean to stop other people from do the sexual reassigment surgery. Well they shouldn't fool anybody and try to date. Just like that teenager tranny got killed by 2 men who found out she was a he. They can do sexual reassignment surgery, but don't fool anyone to date you. If a FtoM wants to date me, he needs to be honest with me... I might go ahead and date that person and get to know him.... And I don't want to live in a lie if he decides to lie and not be honest with me. It is the same as a person sending you wrong picture on the internet and lie to you.... and then when you go meet him in person... he isn't the person you thought he would be, don't look like the person on the picture.. and Liars are wrong... If I am not comfortable with being with a FtoM,,, then he needs to respect me and he needs to find somebody else who is open minded. And if he can't find anybody to date with... Then that is his problem.... You are showing your masculine side there! There is nothing wrong with that. I can be masculine and be a female at the same time and date men. It would be nice for men to take me out on a date to FOOTBALL GAMES.... It would be cool for a man to give me a football for my birthday, he doesn't have to buy me a rose. It would be more romantic to play football with him outside when it isn't too sunny... Not only USA that have the transsexuals, Europe have the higher percent of transsexuals than any of countries, and Thailand is one of the famous that do the sexual reassigment surgery, also there is numberous of transsexuals in China, and India have the special "third sexual person" which are called Hijra. Most of the transsexual people are already married and have children. I know. If you learn Astrology, then you will understand why that happen... Sometimes it could be in the 6th house of health and 3rd house of mind But anyway.... if a man feels he got too much feminine side, why can't he take the testerone hormone pills, instead of estrogen and pay thousands of dollars for sex change? And if a female feels she got too much masculine side, why can't she take estrogen hormone pills, instead of testerone and pay thousands of dollars for sex change? BTW... Puyo and Alesa, if you want me to give you an astrology reading... I can check your chart and help you figure out why you are that way. Reason why i am this way... because I got Mercury Rx and yes I am WEIRD and talk stupid. And plus I am not open minded because I have a lot of FIXED SIGN... which cause me to be STUBBORN. And also Conservative signs... I got Saturn in Taurus,,, close mind, Sun in Capricorn, close mind, Mercury in Capricorn, close mind, Mercury rules thinking.... Capricorn rules conservative... SO I am thinking in a conservative way. Cool huh?