Marriage or Civil Union

PowerON · 11-07-2008, 11:04 AM

Which do you prefer? I would go for Civil Union.

My reason, it's quick and easy than pain-in-ass to get real marriage. Sorry.

Mrs Bucket · 11-07-2008, 11:19 AM

In Canada, same sex marriages are recognised.

Did you know that if you entered in to a civil union, your partner is dying in a hospital room, you would not be granted the same rights as a husband/wife. The rights goes back to the partner's parents.

This is where I disagree with. Gender/sexuality should not play a role in marriage and the government has no right to interfere in this as well.

PowerON · 11-07-2008, 11:27 AM

Actual....

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The federal government does not recognize these unions, and under the U.S. Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 (DOMA), other U.S. states are not obliged to recognize them.

If civil union become legal in federal, then you get almost same benefit as marriage.

jillio · 11-07-2008, 11:30 AM

Personally, I don't see that the GLTB community will have achieved equal social status until marraige is redifined to inlcude all unions that are entered into, no matter of gender. But I would applaud country wide granting of rights to civil union as the first step in that process.

PowerON · 11-07-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Personally, I don't see that the GLTB community will have achieved equal social status until marraige is redifined to inlcude all unions that are entered into, no matter of gender. But I would applaud country wide granting of rights to civil union as the first step in that process.

Exactly

Oceanbreeze · 11-07-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Bucket

In Canada, same sex marriages are recognised.

Did you know that if you entered in to a civil union, your partner is dying in a hospital room, you would not be granted the same rights as a husband/wife. The rights goes back to the partner's parents.

This is where I disagree with. Gender/sexuality should not play a role in marriage and the government has no right to interfere in this as well.

Exactly. This is why I want to see gay marriage rather than civil unions. Civil unions are a good start, but I really think we should push for gay marriage recognition in every state.

lsfoster · 11-07-2008, 12:49 PM

I chose other. I support gay marriage right now, but I think the best option would be to remove the word "marriage" from any government-related institutions or laws. It just confuses people and makes them believe that there is any relationship between a government-issued "marriage" certificate, and a religious (or not) "marriage" ceremony. There isn't. The "marriage" that we're fighting for right now is nothing more than a piece of paper. Call it what it is, a "civil" "union" of two people. The problem right now is that civil unions were just invented a few years ago, and have no real basis in anything. They're only recognized at the state level, and they have no legal precedents attached to them yet, making them hard to deal with. If the government isn't willing to eliminate the word "marriage" from it's vocabulary, then I say marriages for all!

PowerON · 11-07-2008, 01:50 PM

Obama support civil union.

Byrdie714 · 11-07-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lsfoster

I chose other. I support gay marriage right now, but I think the best option would be to remove the word "marriage" from any government-related institutions or laws. It just confuses people and makes them believe that there is any relationship between a government-issued "marriage" certificate, and a religious (or not) "marriage" ceremony. There isn't. The "marriage" that we're fighting for right now is nothing more than a piece of paper. Call it what it is, a "civil" "union" of two people. The problem right now is that civil unions were just invented a few years ago, and have no real basis in anything. They're only recognized at the state level, and they have no legal precedents attached to them yet, making them hard to deal with. If the government isn't willing to eliminate the word "marriage" from it's vocabulary, then I say marriages for all!

A woman after my own heart!

Jillio and I been arguing the same thing for a long time and there are still people that "don't get it!"

lsfoster · 11-07-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

A woman after my own heart!

Jillio and I been arguing the same thing for a long time and there are still people that "don't get it!"

Well I'm glad to hear it!

(The most annoying thing I ever saw was a letter to the editor in my hometown where someone was arguing against gay marriage and their argument was that "it's not like a driver's license". I just thought, "really? it's the exact same thing!!!"

Hwy99 · 11-07-2008, 05:35 PM

I voted both because I believe it's their choice to call it an "union" or an "marriage".

Byrdie714 · 11-07-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lsfoster

Well I'm glad to hear it!

(The most annoying thing I ever saw was a letter to the editor in my hometown where someone was arguing against gay marriage and their argument was that "it's not like a driver's license". I just thought, "really? it's the exact same thing!!!"

Wokamuka · 11-07-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Personally, I don't see that the GLTB community will have achieved equal social status until marraige is redifined to inlcude all unions that are entered into, no matter of gender. But I would applaud country wide granting of rights to civil union as the first step in that process.

I agree. Having one thing for one group while having another thing for another group denotes inequality.

One marriage for all; not for a selected group.

sara1981 · 11-07-2008, 08:18 PM

i vote civil union

but i dont trust same sex marriages because my 2 classmates also gay and my friend's ex-husband also gay i should BAN of same sex marriages! but i would agree with my boyfriend because same sex marriages is wrong! they can touch each other include hiv&aids and diease.

IndieVisible · 11-07-2008, 08:22 PM

I would like to see civil unions carry the same rights as marriage but would like to see marriage reserved for a man and a woman. We need a distinction in terminology I feel. But I am not hardcore against it.

sara1981 · 11-07-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IndieVisible

I would like to see civil unions carry the same rights as marriage but would like to see marriage reserved for a man and a woman. We need a distinction in terminology I feel. But I am not hardcore against it.

i agree!

can marriages each man and woman not same sex marriages NOPE! that what in my mind

Pinky · 11-07-2008, 08:42 PM

My answer No! I prefer one man and one woman marriage over Gay marriage. No offend to whoever are gay marriage. That's my feel want to be marry with man not woman.

sara1981 · 11-07-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ~♥~Pinky~♥~

My answer No! I prefer one man and one woman marriage over Gay marriage. No offend to whoever are gay marriage. That's my feel want to be marry with man not woman.

i agree!

Pinky · 11-07-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sara1981

i agree!

Let go other thread.

Pinky · 11-07-2008, 09:12 PM

I prefer one man and one woman marriage.

web730 · 11-07-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ~♥~Pinky~♥~

I prefer one man and one woman marriage.

I second that!

I'm already married to a

wife.

BradB08 · 11-07-2008, 09:21 PM

I propose that we suggest a new federal proposition:

Proposition 9- A ban on straight marriage.

Pinky · 11-07-2008, 09:26 PM

In your dream.

sara1981 · 11-07-2008, 09:45 PM

my vote one man and one woman than sicko same sex marriages!

my father would not allowed!!

my 2 classmates,my friend's ex-husband also gay but i can banned from same sex marriages but i dont allowed same sex marriages peroid!

Wokamuka · 11-07-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

I propose that we suggest a new federal proposition:

Proposition 9- A ban on straight marriage.

Propose a Federal amendment that all thiings considered will be between two consenting adults.

Not for a selected group.

David · 11-07-2008, 09:52 PM

I SUPPORT same-sex marriages. I also support marriage. If my girlfriend/lady/fiancé and I decide to get married, then that's our business. If a same sex couple gets married, then that's their business, in my opinion. No one else should interfere with anyone else’s happiness.

BradB08 · 11-07-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ~♥~Pinky~♥~

In your dream.

Then why can't you support gay marriage?

Oh right, that's because straight people SOMEHOW deserve more privileges.

Byrdie714 · 11-07-2008, 10:22 PM

There is the same poll over in the GLBT thread. Why continue to pverload the boards with the same topic?

Marriage or Civil Union

Pinky · 11-07-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

I SUPPORT same-sex marriages. I also support marriage. If my girlfriend/lady/fiancé and I decide to get married, then that's our business. If a same sex couple gets married, then that's their business, in my opinion. No one else should interfere with anyone else’s happiness.

I didn't say "Support gay marriage" on my thread. Just your own choice be one man or one woman marriage or gay marriage. I am not ask who is support. "You choice for yourself"

Pinky · 11-07-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

There is the same poll over in the GLBT thread. Why continue to pverload the boards with the same topic?

Marriage or Civil Union

Don't worry about it.

View Poll Results: Which you would choice?
Same-sex Marriage	35	53.85%
Civil Union	19	29.23%
No answer or other	11	16.92%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

11-07-2008, 11:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
PowerON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 37.5, 126.9 Posts: 10,335 Blog Entries: 5	Marriage or Civil Union Which do you prefer? I would go for Civil Union. My reason, it's quick and easy than pain-in-ass to get real marriage. Sorry. __________________ • [Illustrator.Blog-alloon.com] • Don't shoot me! I'm only blogger!

11-07-2008, 12:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
lsfoster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 432	I chose other. I support gay marriage right now, but I think the best option would be to remove the word "marriage" from any government-related institutions or laws. It just confuses people and makes them believe that there is any relationship between a government-issued "marriage" certificate, and a religious (or not) "marriage" ceremony. There isn't. The "marriage" that we're fighting for right now is nothing more than a piece of paper. Call it what it is, a "civil" "union" of two people. The problem right now is that civil unions were just invented a few years ago, and have no real basis in anything. They're only recognized at the state level, and they have no legal precedents attached to them yet, making them hard to deal with. If the government isn't willing to eliminate the word "marriage" from it's vocabulary, then I say marriages for all! __________________ "Voici mon secret. Il est très simple: on ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux."

11-07-2008, 01:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
PowerON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 37.5, 126.9 Posts: 10,335 Blog Entries: 5	Obama support civil union. __________________ • [Illustrator.Blog-alloon.com] • Don't shoot me! I'm only blogger!

11-07-2008, 08:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
sara1981 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Little Rock,Ar Posts: 7,049	i vote civil union but i dont trust same sex marriages because my 2 classmates also gay and my friend's ex-husband also gay i should BAN of same sex marriages! but i would agree with my boyfriend because same sex marriages is wrong! they can touch each other include hiv&aids and diease. __________________

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11-07-2008, 11:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mrs Bucket Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,941	In Canada, same sex marriages are recognised. Did you know that if you entered in to a civil union, your partner is dying in a hospital room, you would not be granted the same rights as a husband/wife. The rights goes back to the partner's parents. This is where I disagree with. Gender/sexuality should not play a role in marriage and the government has no right to interfere in this as well.

11-07-2008, 11:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Personally, I don't see that the GLTB community will have achieved equal social status until marraige is redifined to inlcude all unions that are entered into, no matter of gender. But I would applaud country wide granting of rights to civil union as the first step in that process.

11-07-2008, 05:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hwy99 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A town in middle of the rolling hills Posts: 6,141	I voted both because I believe it's their choice to call it an "union" or an "marriage".

11-07-2008, 08:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
IndieVisible Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 323	I would like to see civil unions carry the same rights as marriage but would like to see marriage reserved for a man and a woman. We need a distinction in terminology I feel. But I am not hardcore against it.

11-07-2008, 08:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
Pinky Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,898	My answer No! I prefer one man and one woman marriage over Gay marriage. No offend to whoever are gay marriage. That's my feel want to be marry with man not woman.

11-07-2008, 09:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
Pinky Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,898	Do you prefer Marriage or same-sex Marriage? I prefer one man and one woman marriage.

11-07-2008, 09:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
BradB08 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 2,676 Blog Entries: 1	I propose that we suggest a new federal proposition: Proposition 9- A ban on straight marriage.

11-07-2008, 09:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
Pinky Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,898	In your dream.

11-07-2008, 09:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
sara1981 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Little Rock,Ar Posts: 7,049	my vote one man and one woman than sicko same sex marriages! my father would not allowed!! my 2 classmates,my friend's ex-husband also gay but i can banned from same sex marriages but i dont allowed same sex marriages peroid! __________________ Last edited by sara1981; 11-08-2008 at 01:13 AM.

11-07-2008, 09:52 PM	#26 (permalink)
David Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 853	I SUPPORT same-sex marriages. I also support marriage. If my girlfriend/lady/fiancé and I decide to get married, then that's our business. If a same sex couple gets married, then that's their business, in my opinion. No one else should interfere with anyone else’s happiness.

11-07-2008, 10:22 PM	#28 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,941	There is the same poll over in the GLBT thread. Why continue to pverload the boards with the same topic? Marriage or Civil Union

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