Senate drops gays from hate crimes bill - Page 2

PuyoPiyo · 12-18-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Texan Guy

Agreed, and that's what democracy is.

Then why a republician president Bush are doing that while he's republician?

Texan Guy · 12-18-2007, 04:05 PM

I don't get it. Democrats and Democracy are the different vocobularies...or did I followed your question?

Byrdie714 · 12-18-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by christlovedeaf

i lost it somewhere. and cant remember where i find it. In oklahoma, gay man was murdered by skinhead. In Oklahoma, if someone who is anti gay killed a gay person, will not be consider as a hate crime. In oklahomo law consider as hate crime only as racial issues, not sexual orient.

Why use that as an example?

The perfect example is Matthew Sheppard from Laramie, Wyoming.

That still sends chills down my spine!

I have to agree with Secretblend but one has to remember that at the time Congress voted for it. Now...Congress is against it because of the changes in represenative/senate seats.

I do find it ironic that some of our conservative allies, Israel and United Kingdom, have laws banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and we can't pass it.

Aren't we suppose to be a leader in human rights?

Foxrac · 12-18-2007, 08:27 PM

I know it was congress's fault but I was blamed on Bush for cause invasion of Iraq, it's end up to cost alot of money and give a much pressure on congress to focus on bills about wars, instead of work on bills for US only or non-war bill.

It's not because of rid the hate crime bill, plus there's spread over media, such as news on internet and Bush would know about something like that.

Foxrac · 12-18-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Then why a republician president Bush are doing that while he's republician?

Nah, it's other word, both of democracy and democrat are different.

Democracy means free of speech and free from dictatorship, better explanation in wikipedia.
Democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Texan Guy · 12-18-2007, 08:35 PM

Oh, is that what he meant? Okay, blame the anicent Greeks for create a kind of the government, Democracy.

Or should I say Spartans and Greek soldiers? They saved the democracy from the Persian invasion.

Byrdie714 · 12-19-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Texan Guy

Oh, is that what he meant? Okay, blame the anicent Greeks for create a kind of the government, Democracy.

Or should I say Spartans and Greek soldiers? They saved the democracy from the Persian invasion.

The Greeks? The same Greeks that gave civilization island of Lesbos and the homosexual town of Mykonos?

The same Greeks that permitted homosexuality in a democratic society....

PuyoPiyo · 12-19-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Texan Guy

I don't get it. Democrats and Democracy are the different vocobularies...or did I followed your question?

NVM I read Pacman's post.

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Nah, it's other word, both of democracy and democrat are different.

Democracy means free of speech and free from dictatorship, better explanation in wikipedia.
Democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ahh gotcha, thanks for explaination.

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Originally Posted by Texan Guy

Oh, is that what he meant? Okay, blame the anicent Greeks for create a kind of the government, Democracy.

Or should I say Spartans and Greek soldiers? They saved the democracy from the Persian invasion.

Well they did make a very good system. Without that, we will never tried to pass this bill. But actually, it have nothing to do with the government system.

What exactly I was blaming on is that government are spending too much money on the wars, didn't do much for us in the America.

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

The Greeks? The same Greeks that gave civilization island of Lesbos and the homosexual town of Mykonos?

The same Greeks that permitted homosexuality in a democratic society....

Yupp Greece have fairly good GLBT community there. Most of my family side that I am more openly gay to are the Greek side families compare to English and German families.

Cowpuppy · 12-19-2007, 03:34 PM

If you are going to post an ad deriving Hillary with a pic then maybe you can give us the entire context. What was she respondinig to when she supposedly said this. I suspect you are trying to put a spin on it to let people think hysterical bunk. Such as you have.

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Cowpuppy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On The Road Again Posts: 375	If you are going to post an ad deriving Hillary with a pic then maybe you can give us the entire context. What was she respondinig to when she supposedly said this. I suspect you are trying to put a spin on it to let people think hysterical bunk. Such as you have.