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Old 06-10-2008, 07:19 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Just so you know, the majority of diagnoses for any mental disorder do not come about because the person who is ill has sought treatment. They come about because someone in their life has seen the symptoms, and sought treatment for the person, or convinced the person that, even though they think there is nothing wrong, there most certainly is something wrong.
Jillio,

How right you are.

My diagnosis of bipolar came about as the result of an involutary hospitalization. I won't go into any details here except to say that it took 6 people to restrain me during my periods of extreme irritability. (I was told the ambulance driver asked if I worked out because of my strength in fighting against all 6 people even though I'm skinny.) Even when I was in the hospital (once the meds started working enough for me to be aware of what was happening around me), I continued to insist that nothing was wrong. I'll never be able to thank the people who were involved in getting me help enough for they were the ones who literally saved my life.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:19 AM   #122 (permalink)
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all I know is I suffer with suicidal thoughts. especially lately as it gets worsen every year. I went through everything all by myself, I was too much for people to handle so I stopped asking for help. a long time ago. decades ago. let alone I was already alone. and now from the past of years my death wish list have gotten longer than a football field. still, amazed I'm still here after numerous of attempts, scenarios, attacks, traumas and craps.

a quite few people think that I should, no, "must seek some professional" treatments but I refuse to medicate (change) myself over anyone's mistakes. or let them control over me, make me follow their orders other than what's best for me.. so wrong. so wrong. nothing to do with my willpower. I don't trust doctors; because of my deafness I was mislabelled for nine years. that was enough for an ab/normal intelligent little girl, whatever they thought I was. I was well and happy before the society had to screw my life up. right now and still hanging at the very end of barbed wire, I just don't know how much longer I will hold on or do I know myself anymore - my willpower/ingness is leaking out of me at the bottom. like I said under my username, living by flow of fates ... until one day I finally die.

I believe that my personalities are already gone, not that matters to anyone. no one was born to live for another if you get what I mean. and what's more? I don't know any of you very well. or at all. growing up all my life struggling,I all I asked for the world was at least some understandings and patience - I know being in an understanding crowd does make a big difference. that's what I wish for this christmas, some buddy/community support someone literally had taken away from me. to tie a knot, that would help a bit. that is, if I'm still hanging around and long for a hope.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:24 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Freckles,
Please don't give up the will to live. I'm sure you've got something to live for such as your loyal pets and friends.

Surely you can seek counselling without having medicaton? After all, you're well within your rights to refuse medication.

Sure life does hand out crap but it's up to us how to handle it, I guess

Hang in there and talk in here as much as you need.

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Old 06-11-2008, 05:51 PM   #124 (permalink)
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far out man it's alot to read, i admit i find it hard to understand psychiatry, but it is interesting.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:40 PM   #125 (permalink)
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I do not believe sheer will combats/cures depression or any mental illness for that manner. That's all I have to say about that.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:58 PM   #126 (permalink)
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I do not believe sheer will combats/cures depression or any mental illness for that manner. That's all I have to say about that.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:51 PM   #127 (permalink)
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When Tom Cruise said we don't need drugs to help us, esp. with post pardum depression, I nearly died laughing! What an asshole.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:16 PM   #128 (permalink)
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When Tom Cruise said we don't need drugs to help us, esp. with post pardum depression, I nearly died laughing! What an asshole.
I wanted to wring his neck! People like him infuriate me. They are so invalidating.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:53 PM   #129 (permalink)
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I can not believe Brooke Shields forgave him. I woulda never done that. If vitamins were a cure, we'd all be friggin problem free. Asshole. I am sorry I use that word alot because the world is filled w/ many a asshole!
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:48 PM   #130 (permalink)
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I can not believe Brooke Shields forgave him. I woulda never done that. If vitamins were a cure, we'd all be friggin problem free. Asshole. I am sorry I use that word alot because the world is filled w/ many a asshole!
Well, I commend her. I think she realizes that he's a jerk, and there's not much you can do about those who are ill-informed. I agree that he did alot of people wrong, but what can you do? People are free to believe what they want to, and you aren't gonna change some people's minds. I think she realized that Cruise was a lost cause and moved on...
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:55 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Oh that fanatic, Tom Cruise..geez..He is so
obessed with his religion, Scientology that he
tries to convert his family and friends to that
church. I read somewhere that he is now trying
to convert his in-laws who are Catholics! Unreal!
He needs to shove that *%#@ up his arse, lol!

Anybody like that fanatic needs to quit shoving
his religion down other people's throats..it is rude,
really. Everybody have a right to choose his/her
religion without people like Tom C. trying to convert
everybody to his own religion...
I cant stand people like that....grrr.

P.S....sorry to go off the topic..heh.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:06 PM   #132 (permalink)
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tom C, is weirdo no effects

i hope everyone here would be alright and dealing with bi polar and depression
i am dealing with my own depression myself sometimes i have good days and bad days for few weeks now i have more bad days than good days but good thing i still go to therapy.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:53 PM   #133 (permalink)
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I am bipolar, been diagnosed at 15 yrs old (now 21), probably would've been diagnosed earlier except my fear of doctors don't help.

I have been in and out of mental health hospital a couple of times now. It sucks really my mind is fucked up and i hate it. I take meds but sometime when i feel happy or good i think i dun need them anymore, then my parent find out and watch me. there are demons in my head that tells me what to do, my mind is alway, ALWAYS running, no matter what it always thinking, always talking. All day and night my mind talks and talks and talks, and wont shut up.
I know a man who is bipolar, and he teaches meditation at church. He's a man that does meditation daily. He said it is a MUST for him. Meditation is for everyone. With time, it will help quiet your mind.
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Oh that fanatic, Tom Cruise..geez..He is so
obessed with his religion, Scientology that he
tries to convert his family and friends to that
church. I read somewhere that he is now trying
to convert his in-laws who are Catholics! Unreal!
He needs to shove that *%#@ up his arse, lol!

Anybody like that fanatic needs to quit shoving
his religion down other people's throats..it is rude,
really. Everybody have a right to choose his/her
religion without people like Tom C. trying to convert
everybody to his own religion...
I cant stand people like that....grrr.

P.S....sorry to go off the topic..heh.
Well, everyone is free to believe what they wish. However, a person shouldn't criticise someone else for adhering to different beliefs; especially when it comes to medical or psychiatric conditions.
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I do not believe sheer will combats/cures depression or any mental illness for that manner. That's all I have to say about that.
You are correct. No more than sheer will can cure cancer.
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Old 07-25-2008, 01:09 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Sometimes sheer will can also cause one to refuse help until they have done something to force them to seek help. As Hear Again said - a lot of the time the person is dx not because they sought help, it is because their loved ones have sought help for them.

That is the thing about mental disorders, your outlook is fogged due to the chemical imbalance in your brain. You have no idea your losing it. You may have a feeling your losing it, but you dont really believe it and you tell yourself you're over reacting. Until your outlook becomes so fogged you can't even see far enough ahead to make rational decisions.
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Sometimes sheer will can also cause one to refuse help until they have done something to force them to seek help. As Hear Again said - a lot of the time the person is dx not because they sought help, it is because their loved ones have sought help for them.

That is the thing about mental disorders, your outlook is fogged due to the chemical imbalance in your brain. You have no idea your losing it. You may have a feeling your losing it, but you dont really believe it and you tell yourself you're over reacting. Until your outlook becomes so fogged you can't even see far enough ahead to make rational decisions.
So true, Dixie. The whole point is that the person with a mental illness does not see that they are ill. If they don't believe they are ill, they do not seek treatment for their illness.
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No but I'm pretty sure I have schizotypal personality disorder though, I been researching, looking around to find what's wrong with me and I finally found it recently that matched perfectly like you won't believe, its hard to accept but at same time its relief to find something. I do want seek psychologist (no interest into taking meds so no psycharist) but I'm not driving on my own yet but plan on in august if I pass license test. Then I'll ask my doctor to find me someone to talk to. So I basically self-diagnosed as schizotypal personality disorder.
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Here's the link if you're interested
Schizotypal personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Short description of it:
Schizotypal personality disorder , or simply schizotypal disorder , is a personality disorder that is characterized by a need for social isolation , odd behavior and thinking, and often unconventional beliefs.

I want to point out some of what link said how its for me so here's my explaination.

Link said this part.

The schizotypal individual develops a fear of, strong objection to, or incapacity for social interaction, due to the sum of their past social experiences being negative in nature. As infants they do not learn how to interact with others, and as children and adults this inability quickly makes them a target for other people. Eventually, the individual learns (most often unconsciously) to see people as harmful and a source of negativity, suffering and ostracization.

My statement to this:
I've had load of negative experience from other people so I developed extremely mistrust with stranger, even my own family I always worry if my dad or brothers'll come in room to rape or kill me in my sleep, I never drink my drink if someone moved it or saw them touching it because I think they spit in it or put poison in it or put their germ on it to get me sick on purpose that's with my family or strangers only but with my fiance jason or his close family member I'm fine if they move my drink. And I don't really try to makes friend with people because I always believe they don't want to be my friend at the point I almost believe some kind of higher being or spirit told everyone to not to be my friend and to be mean to me but I know its irrational thought but it does come across my mind sometimes but I never believed it.

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This leads to the development of "ideas of reference," in which the schizotypal individual believes that events are of special relevance to them or that benign events are somehow related to them (e.g., sees two people laughing and believes that the people are laughing at them). The individual may realize that their ideas of reference are
irrational, but maintains them nonetheless.

my statement to that:
I always constantly think if I saw people laughing, they're laughing at me, or if someone's near me talking and if I saw them looking at me I'd think they're talking about me.

Link said this:

Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations)

My statement:
I believe that if I ask for something in opposite of what I want it will come out in opposite of what I asked for so I get what I want for example if I'm approaching to traffic light I'll say red light over and over again to makes it go green by time we got there
And other one is sometimes I get anxiety of choking or anything related to eating/swallowing food/drinks I'd touch my right ear because somehow I think it help preventing whatever might happen in swallowing food or drinks.

Link said this:

Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions

My statement:
I have weird idea that I think my hip are huge often when its only 33 inch around

Link said this:

Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped)

My statement:
Let say I say most random things because I lack in skill of initating and keep convo going with people so I'll talk about what I saw on egypt documentary to people in middle of their turn when someone's driving. And I don't know if my thinking is usual so no comment on that lol

Link said this:

Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation
Inappropriate or constricted affect
Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar

My statement:
Yeah in high school I hated to match clothes so I wear most mismatched clothes possible. And sometimes I'd behave in unusual, weird manner and don't remember or realized what I did.

Link said this:

Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
Social anxiety that tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self

My statement:
Yeah its obvious in my other many posts that I don't have any friends only 2 and I'm not close to my family at all they're practially strangers that lived with me for most of my life and I'm still working on bonding better with my fiance jason I've been with him for almost 2 years its very difficult for me.
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Schizotypal personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Short description of it:
Schizotypal personality disorder , or simply schizotypal disorder , is a personality disorder that is characterized by a need for social isolation , odd behavior and thinking, and often unconventional beliefs.

I want to point out some of what link said how its for me so here's my explaination.

Link said this part.

The schizotypal individual develops a fear of, strong objection to, or incapacity for social interaction, due to the sum of their past social experiences being negative in nature. As infants they do not learn how to interact with others, and as children and adults this inability quickly makes them a target for other people. Eventually, the individual learns (most often unconsciously) to see people as harmful and a source of negativity, suffering and ostracization.

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I've had load of negative experience from other people so I developed extremely mistrust with stranger, even my own family I always worry if my dad or brothers'll come in room to rape or kill me in my sleep, I never drink my drink if someone moved it or saw them touching it because I think they spit in it or put poison in it or put their germ on it to get me sick on purpose that's with my family or strangers only but with my fiance jason or his close family member I'm fine if they move my drink. And I don't really try to makes friend with people because I always believe they don't want to be my friend at the point I almost believe some kind of higher being or spirit told everyone to not to be my friend and to be mean to me but I know its irrational thought but it does come across my mind sometimes but I never believed it.

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This leads to the development of "ideas of reference," in which the schizotypal individual believes that events are of special relevance to them or that benign events are somehow related to them (e.g., sees two people laughing and believes that the people are laughing at them). The individual may realize that their ideas of reference are
irrational, but maintains them nonetheless.

my statement to that:
I always constantly think if I saw people laughing, they're laughing at me, or if someone's near me talking and if I saw them looking at me I'd think they're talking about me.

Link said this:

Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations)

My statement:
I believe that if I ask for something in opposite of what I want it will come out in opposite of what I asked for so I get what I want for example if I'm approaching to traffic light I'll say red light over and over again to makes it go green by time we got there
And other one is sometimes I get anxiety of choking or anything related to eating/swallowing food/drinks I'd touch my right ear because somehow I think it help preventing whatever might happen in swallowing food or drinks.

Link said this:

Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions

My statement:
I have weird idea that I think my hip are huge often when its only 33 inch around

Link said this:

Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped)

My statement:
Let say I say most random things because I lack in skill of initating and keep convo going with people so I'll talk about what I saw on egypt documentary to people in middle of their turn when someone's driving. And I don't know if my thinking is usual so no comment on that lol

Link said this:

Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation
Inappropriate or constricted affect
Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar

My statement:
Yeah in high school I hated to match clothes so I wear most mismatched clothes possible. And sometimes I'd behave in unusual, weird manner and don't remember or realized what I did.

Link said this:

Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
Social anxiety that tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self

My statement:
Yeah its obvious in my other many posts that I don't have any friends only 2 and I'm not close to my family at all they're practially strangers that lived with me for most of my life and I'm still working on bonding better with my fiance jason I've been with him for almost 2 years its very difficult for me.
Just a word of caution: I wouldn't use Wiki as a basis for self diagnosis. In fact, I wouldn't self diagnose at all. Best to have a complete assessment if you feel have a disorder. Even the professionals go to another therapist if they are having problems, rather than diagnose themselves.
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Just a word of caution: I wouldn't use Wiki as a basis for self diagnosis. In fact, I wouldn't self diagnose at all. Best to have a complete assessment if you feel have a disorder. Even the professionals go to another therapist if they are having problems, rather than diagnose themselves.
No I know that, I did said I want to see psychologist soon anyways so I just want to makes sure and get confirmed on what I have and help deal with it better or whatever without meds
I'm just saying I'm pretty sure but I'm not like 100% confirmed said this is it for sure you know?
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