airportcop

I would like to thank the mods and the administrator for having such a great deal of patience and fortitude in their handling of the current political threads. I must say that I enjoy participating in them and am glad they remain here. It is always okay to disagree but we are a community and we need to remain friendly. Tempers have flared at times even mine! Please friends we can do without the name calling and back biting. Sometimes we just need to agree to disagree and go on our merry ways. Good discussion is always fun and often a learning experience for all who participate. Debate is healthy but hate is not and should never be tolerated. We are all entitled to our opinions and we need to remember that when discussing these hot topics!

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saywhatkid

Not hard to find them peaceful, when most of the Liberals have stopped posting. Is peaceful a good thing? Really?

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TXgolfer

Peaceful is a GREAT thing. Debate is fun too as long as posters stick to the topic rather than making it personal.

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saywhatkid

Well, not likely to get personal when most everyone is agreeing. Kind of like going to a GOP website and bashing Obama. Who can make the best funny?

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TXgolfer

Maybe some new libs will join. Besides there are a few still around.

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rockin'robin

Agree. No need for the name-slinging, insults, embarrassing a member. It's great to come to AD with a good feeling, good people that are caring and supportive.

saywhatkid

Time will tell.

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Jiro

perhaps political threads should be removed for now since AD is primarily a deaf forum about deaf subjects.

it does raise some suspicions when some members come in and not even participate much in any deaf-related threads.

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Steinhauer

That depends, wasn't there a member that bashed anyone that was pro CI? I mean, why would anyone want to post how they felt about CI's if all that happened was constant bashing?

I know it is a controversial subject ... but dude, those discussions got out of hand real quick.

Jiro

CI is a deaf subject.

I'm talking about those who never bothered to participate in deaf subjects. it raises suspicion.

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Steinhauer

Do you absolutely have to hold a specific view on CI's, Hearing Aids, Signed Languages, ad infinitum to be considered "Deaf"?

What if a deaf/Deaf person just wants to participate in a forum without discussing how they feel about certain topics within the deaf/DEaf community because they know they will get bashed?

It isn't like that is a big secret ya know.

just an example - my wife was the first child to have a cochlear impant in Atlanta. She doesn't wear it anymore because her ex husband told her it made her look ugly. The fact of the matter is, he was jealous she was able to hear noise with it, and he was deaf and could not have a CI (was not a candidate). He felt she was trying to be "hearing" and leave deaf/Deaf culture .... I saw a lot of the same types of tactics used in the CI threads.

Yeah .... I know it is explosive, doesn't mean the issues can't be discussed with civility.

TXgolfer

Works for me. With or without the politics section this is a great site.

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Jiro

uh.... what in god's name are you talking about???????

It's very simple. AD is a deaf forum about deaf stuff. If a member comes in and does not bother participating much in deaf-related subjects... it raises suspicion as time goes on.

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Steinhauer

Re-read my post if you honestly do not know what I am talking about.

AD means "All Deaf" which I think is all inclusive to anyone who relates to themselves as being a part of the deaf community.

There are those who feel you cannot be a part of the deaf community if you do not sign, have a CI, wear HA's etc. etc. (participate in deaf related threads). That is an all "exclusive" view.

I personally am not comfortable excluding people that are Deaf that may or may not march in lock step with the philosophy that you must use ASL, must not have a CI, must throw away your HA's, must avoid the hearing world at all costs.

clearer now?

Jiro

lol what??????????????????? where exactly did I say that?

and I'm not sure exactly what part of "if a member comes in and does not bother participating much in deaf-related subjects" do you not understand.

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TXgolfer

Off the top of my head I cannot think of a member that fits this description.

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Jiro

that's good!

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Steinhauer

Why do you think I said you said that?

also, why do you get suspicious if someone does not participate in deaf related threads?

What if there is just a deaf/Deaf dude or dudette that isn't interested in deaf related threads? Is that ok with you?

rockin'robin

where is "whatdidyousay" when you need her?

Bebonang

Bold statement. Not everyone or anyone who does not want to be involved in the Deaf community. I have noticed a lot that you were always in the political sections, always bashing or blaming Obama when we, Liberals, want to let you know that you as the conservative have to show respect for President Obama. Jiro is right that you never came on Deaf subjects to discuss or debate on what you think as a Deaf person or Hard of Hearing person to help us understand your opinions. It has nothing to do with CI, hearing aids or stem cells but for you as a Deaf or Hard of Hearing person giving out opinions about yourself. Being in the Deaf World is really amazing and be involved with Deaf community can make you feel a whole lot better than trying to struggle with hearing society, eh?

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Steinhauer

Oh, I didn't realize that I had to agree with everything Obama is doing. Last time I checked, this was a free country and no, I do not have to show respect for Obama. That is one of the great things about this country. Another great thing about this country, is that you can ignore it.

Jiro was not stating it was ME that he saw only participating in political threads. He stated he noticed how "suspicious" it was that some members never participated in deaf related threads. He did not single me out (you did that).

I have embraced the deaf/Deaf community - I just avoid the Deaf Power nazis within it (to clarify - the ones that try to turn a deaf person with a CI into a pariah). That is all - have a good night.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1916462.stm

why not just adopt?

Jiro

because you're talking about inclusive/exclusive and I've never said anything about it or even remotely about it.

because that person is obviously looking to cause trouble.

chance is.... that person isn't deaf/Deaf and is only in for attention

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Grayma

I think the lack of ugly name calling is a good thing. It's possible to disagree with somebody without calling them names.

Some people can't do that. They are usually the sort of people who only wish to talk to others who think exactly the same way they do, an echo chamber.

Grayma

There are many d/Deaf threads where I don't participate because I'm neither, and I don't feel I'm informed enough about those issues to even have, let alone to share, an opinion. I read those threads because I am trying to learn, but I don't think it's my place to say anything at all about hearing aids, CI, whether or not a law is a good or bad thing for ASL or for deaf people.
When it comes to d/Deaf issues my place is mainly to be quiet and learn.

Cowpuppy

never went anywhere.... got tired of listening to slobmouths like Limbaugh.
hatebags.
and nice try. but not all non-republicans are liberals. ever hear of centrist. or middle of the roaders who use their brain..?. stop trying to manipulate people you don't agree with into some false grouping to suit your needs.
that is precisly what Limbaugh tried to pull last week. idiot. hope all advertisers quit on him. doesn't deserve to be on air. an embarrassment to deafies. limbaugh is a republican icon. slobs.

Foxrac

You should realize about religious discussion isn't allowed and it has been since 2008.

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Grayma

I do not find it difficult at all to resist resorting to personal attacks and name calling just because the person I am talking with has a different political opinion to my own.

I don't see any reason adult people should need to resort to name calling and personal attacks just because they disagree with one another.

airportcop

Jiro,

I'm not trying to pick a fight in any way shape or form but are you talking about people like me posting on AD? I am not deaf. I have lost over 50% of my high frequency hearing and my wife also knows sign language. I have many deaf friends outside of AD too. But if you really look I also participate in several other sections besides just the political ones. I joined initially because my friend wanted my opinions and views on law enforcement to be heard. I found some more friends and some pretty good conversation for the most part. I just hate some of the hate. Like I said before, not trying to pick a fight but was it someone like me you were speaking of? If it was it is no big deal and hasn't hurt my feelings at all. I'm sure that a lot of folks were suspicious of me at first but I have stuck around and whether or not you agree with me it should be obvious that I'm the real deal!

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TXgolfer

Alot of us are glad you stuck around. I know it wasn't easy at first.

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Jiro

you know you are free to ask and share your opinion even if it may sounds audist but like you said - you are here to learn and that is how you learn by engaging in discussion.

you will gain no wisdom as a lurker. that's not what teachers have taught us to do.

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