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Unread 11-24-2011, 09:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My Condo Association is leaving Mice Poison in the Hallway

I found mice poison in the common hallway in my building two times! There was a small black tray of poison right next to my door a couple of month ago and I wrapped it up in couple paper bags and put it a trash bag. Then I found found another tray in the hallway last week and I got rid of it before Marty found it. I put both trash bags into the trash tote which it too tall for animal to get into. When I took Marty outside tonight I found another poison tray right on the ground where any animal could find it! It was partly covered with leaves and I glad I saw it before Marty did! I think someone took the poison tray and just throw on the ground! I can't believe someone would throw poison out like
that as any animal could find it ! I am thinking of calling my condo tomorrow
to let them know about this. The house I found the poison in front has a toddler living there and he is always playing in front of his house and picking up things he find on the ground! I asked everyone in my building if they had mice in their units and no one does. My condo assoc. is obsessed with using mice poison!
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Unread 11-24-2011, 10:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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NEVER leave your dog outside unattended and you must teach and reinforce the command: LEAVE IT. If it's taught properly to your dog, anytime you say it, he will stop in his tracks and look at you. If it's in his mouth you can use DROP IT or GIVE.

Your condo association is trying to keep the mouse situation under control BEFORE it gets out of hand.

Seems like you always have issues with your condo association. Yes, you do have the right to live there and pay rent, but you also have the right to live elsewhere.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 10:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, there has been cases where people deliberately put rat poison in an area to get rid of a house pet.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 10:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, there has been cases where people deliberately put rat poison in an area to get rid of a house pet.
Which is why you don't leave your house pet outside unattended or unsupervised. Because his dog is his service animal, there's no reason why the dog should be left unattended at all.
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Well, there has been cases where people deliberately put rat poison in an area to get rid of a house pet.
Unfortunately, that is very true.
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Seems like you always have issues with your condo association. Yes, you do have the right to live there and pay rent, but you also have the right to live elsewhere.
Yes.
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Personally I would worry about the little kids living in the building.
There are better ways of putting out poison where small children and pets cannot get to it but can still kill mice.

Pets should be watched at all times, the same as kids but I realize mistakes and accidents can happen in a split second.
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NEVER leave your dog outside unattended and you must teach and reinforce the command: LEAVE IT. If it's taught properly to your dog, anytime you say it, he will stop in his tracks and look at you. If it's in his mouth you can use DROP IT or GIVE.

Your condo association is trying to keep the mouse situation under control BEFORE it gets out of hand.

Seems like you always have issues with your condo association. Yes, you do have the right to live there and pay rent, but you also have the right to live elsewhere.
I do not let my dog lose but he it very fast and find things on the ground before I do! I am glad I saw the poison before Marty did! And if read my whole post I said the poison tray was RIGHT in front of the house that has a small child living there and he play outside all the time. He is a toddler and you know how they'll pick up anything and put it in their mouth! Poison does not belong in the common hallway where small kids can get to it! I bet the manger does not put poison mice traps in his hallway! And no one in my building has mice.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 04:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, there has been cases where people deliberately put rat poison in an area to get rid of a house pet.
I know and this did cross my mind , but everyone here like Marty. If someone
intentionality leave the poison out they had to be out of their damn mind to put it front of house that has a toddler living there. And I glad I find if a mouse ate some poison a cat or wild animal could dies from eating the mouse. And the could get into the food chain.
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NEVER leave your dog outside unattended and you must teach and reinforce the command: LEAVE IT. If it's taught properly to your dog, anytime you say it, he will stop in his tracks and look at you. If it's in his mouth you can use DROP IT or GIVE.

Your condo association is trying to keep the mouse situation under control BEFORE it gets out of hand.

Seems like you always have issues with your condo association. Yes, you do have the right to live there and pay rent, but you also have the right to live elsewhere.
I do not pay rent!! I own my condo , my mortgage been paid off!
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Unread 11-25-2011, 04:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Some idiot put out rat poision and the rat came to die behind my dishwasher. Thanks, neighbor! Have the home owners association ban the rat poision and require people to put out traps.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 04:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I found mice poison in the common hallway in my building two times! There was a small black tray of poison right next to my door a couple of month ago and I wrapped it up in couple paper bags and put it a trash bag. Then I found found another tray in the hallway last week and I got rid of it before Marty found it. I put both trash bags into the trash tote which it too tall for animal to get into. When I took Marty outside tonight I found another poison tray right on the ground where any animal could find it! It was partly covered with leaves and I glad I saw it before Marty did! I think someone took the poison tray and just throw on the ground! I can't believe someone would throw poison out like
that as any animal could find it ! I am thinking of calling my condo tomorrow
to let them know about this. The house I found the poison in front has a toddler living there and he is always playing in front of his house and picking up things he find on the ground! I asked everyone in my building if they had mice in their units and no one does. My condo assoc. is obsessed with using mice poison!
Write a letter to the condo assocation and explain very matter of factly that you have concerns about poison being within easy access of pets and children and would prefer they place it in a safer place and issue a new bylaw forbidding placement of poison within easy reach of kids and pets. I'm a bit confused though, is it the condo assocation who placed the poison in the hallways or is it someone in the building who did that?
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Unread 11-25-2011, 04:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Personally I would worry about the little kids living in the building.
There are better ways of putting out poison where small children and pets cannot get to it but can still kill mice.

Pets should be watched at all times, the same as kids but I realize mistakes and accidents can happen in a split second.
That was my biggest concern the kid! I watch Marty very closely when I take him out but like I said he is very fast and can smell things on the ground.
I think it wrong to leave poison in the common hallway , people do have famliy visiting with small kids to and it not wise to leave poison right out in the open.
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A well-trained service dog doesn't get side tracked by stuff they see on the ground, they are focused on their handler at all times. Best way to see this? Leave kibble on the floor, put your dog in working mode, if they stop to investigate it, they aren't focused on you or their job. If they walk past it and ignore it, they are focused on you and their task.

However you can 'release' them to take it by saying a command such as 'OK' or whatever. This tells them they can relax a bit and enjoy a small treat.

I used this when feeding my dogs. I would have them sit and remain sitting at meal time. I sit the bowl of food in front of them. They can look at it, drool all over it all they want, but they could not eat until I released them to eat with 'OK'. It reaffirms that you are in charge and that they should always remain focused on you.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 04:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I do not pay rent!! I own my condo , my mortgage been paid off!
Again, no one is forcing you to live there. Have you considered that maybe someone reported seeing mice in the main hallways so they placed poison where they were reported seen?


As suggested, instead of complaining here, you could be more proactive and take it to your condo association. The results may generally be better.
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Write a letter to the condo assocation and explain very matter of factly that you have concerns about poison being within easy access of pets and children and would prefer they place it in a safer place and issue a new bylaw forbidding placement of poison within easy reach of kids and pets. I'm a bit confused though, is it the condo assocation who placed the poison in the hallways or is it someone in the building who did that?
That is a good idea ! I did try calling today but the office was closed.

It is the condo association that leaving the poison in all the building. I called the health department to find out if the condo had the rights to do this and I had not heard back. I was told they come and check this out. I will have to write myself a note to call the health department Monday. We have mice poison in the basement and I think that is OK , I am against it in the hallway!
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Better yet, show up at the next condo association meeting. It's easier to ignore a letter than a person in a meeting. You can present the letter at the meeting.
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Some idiot put out rat poision and the rat came to die behind my dishwasher. Thanks, neighbor!...
Ewwww, I bet that was pungent!
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Yes for a while! I kept cleaning out the garbage disposal thinking it was the source of the stench. I had to keep spraying stuff to kill the smell. Finally, it's back to normal.

We have a drought and the animals are desperate for water. That makes them more brazen about getting into houses.
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Some idiot put out rat poision and the rat came to die behind my dishwasher. Thanks, neighbor! Have the home owners association ban the rat poision and require people to put out traps.
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Better yet, show up at the next condo association meeting. It's easier to ignore a letter than a person in a meeting. You can present the letter at the meeting.
The next condo will not be until October 2012 . We just have one a year. We had more when I first moved here. A lot of people are not happy with the way things are done here. One trustee moved out and everyone was really happy! No one like him except the manger who does not live here. He take care of proprieties all over the city .
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Again, no one is forcing you to live there. Have you considered that maybe someone reported seeing mice in the main hallways so they placed poison where they were reported seen?


As suggested, instead of complaining here, you could be more proactive and take it to your condo association. The results may generally be better.
I just spoke to a neighbor and she told me the poison that was in her hallway was removed , so the health department did come here and agreed there should be no mice poison out in the open. If that was the case the trustees should had send us a letter telling us that would be leaving poison in the common hallway and made we keep kids away from it! You don't just put poison
out in the open and not warm people! When people treat their lawns they have little flags put up warning people to keep kids and pet off the grass! There was no warning posted anywhere in the hallway to let people bringing kids in be careful of the poison! It was right in front of our apartment doors!! Maybe you like having poison close to your home , I don't!
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Some idiot put out rat poision and the rat came to die behind my dishwasher. Thanks, neighbor! Have the home owners association ban the rat poision and require people to put out traps.
The neighbor I spoke to tonight has mice in her apartment , she lives in difference building than me. She is using poison traps under her kitchen sink. The mice must be coming in from the basement and climbing up a pipe.

One of the trustee had the landscapers take all the cuttings from trees and throw it on the ground not far from the buildings . Then we had our driveway worked on and the broken curbing was dumped on top of the trees cutting! I called the office and told them it was going attract rodents. He did not believe me. Then we had some dead brushes dumped on top of the broken up curbing! Now I see a cat sitting at site waiting for mice to come out of it! I have seen a mouse crawl out the pile of trash and Marty want to hunt around it! So we now have more mice than before , they love the new home my jackass trustee had build for them! The cat bring the dead mice and sometime lives one to her owner!! At least the trustee has moved out.
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Tell her to get a cat or a terrier. Problem solved! Sounds like the neighborhood cats are enjoying the mice.
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Tell her to get a cat or a terrier. Problem solved! Sounds like the neighborhood cats are enjoying the mice.
Pets are not allowed here. Someone does have a cat for a pet here and I will never report them. The woman was worried I would , and my daughter saw a woman with a small dog. I think the by law should be fixed so people could have a cat or small dog .It would keep the mice away and it healthier than having poison everywhere. I wish the trustees had believed me when I told them putting all that yard trash out back was bring in mice! A cat is catching mice all the time next that to pile . I sometime find a dead mouse with teeth mark on it! Yuck!! I keep Marty away from them just in case it ate poison!
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Some idiot put out rat poision and the rat came to die behind my dishwasher. Thanks, neighbor! Have the home owners association ban the rat poision and require people to put out traps.
GROSS!! Traps would be better. A mouse could eat some poison and end up dying in a wall then that would a HELL of a mess to clean up!And cost the condo more money! People do not think around here! That had to smell like HELL having a dead rat in your home!! And talk about germs! I better stop or I will have nightmares!
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Yes, I agree that small pets should be allowed. Limiting the size or number is ok.
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Some idiot put out rat poision and the rat came to die behind my dishwasher. Thanks, neighbor! Have the home owners association ban the rat poision and require people to put out traps.
I once had a skunk die under a trailer I was staying in. Woof

They should put out glue traps IMO
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If your condo association does not allow pets, then why are there residents with pets?

First you said there wasn't a mouse problem, now you say there is because of this brush pile that your guy left out in the yard. So make up your mind. Which is it?

Sounds like there really is a problem, your condo association tried to remedy the problem the best they knew how.

Again, if parents are watching their children and pet owners are watching their pets there shouldn't be a problem. Perhaps they left the poison in the open so residents WOULD notice them.

Also, if you aren't going to abide by the condo association's covenant of NO PETS then perhaps you shouldn't be living there. There are other places where pets are allowed and even welcomed. If your so worried about your dog getting into this or that at your condo, then you know you have two viable options.

You want your condo association to do this and that for you, yet you won't even abide by THEIR rules.
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She has Marty under the grounds that he is a "service dog," (a hearing dog for the deaf), although it sounds like his service-dog training, if any, is on the slim side.
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