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Unread 05-07-2011, 07:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I lived in major cities in the past, most homeless people won't accept my food offer. They wanted money, and we all know where that person is going to...liquor store.
"Why lie...I need a beer"
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Unread 05-07-2011, 08:43 PM   #32 (permalink)
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We would need to figure out why they are homeless.

-Battered women. They tend to have to either choose between living in a secure place with issues, or be homeless.

-People who just feel like they have no chance - they just decide to be homeless because they have "no chance" in employment. Could be a cause of their upbringing.

-Addiction. I met a deaf guy in Vegas two weeks ago. He mentioned he played poker with me and that I showed him the exit to the tournament once some time ago. I don't remember him but he lives in Vegas, homeless, mooches SSDI, and loves gambling.

-People who just foreclosed (a spike of recent)...

I would put more focus on battered women. Give them easy way out, set them up with security. Security = jobs, housing, a foundation for them to stand on so they're whole and good. That way they're not homeless, and doing the things women were asking me for in Vegas....
One is 50 kid in USA homeless every year. I knew young women that homeless in Cal. I was so sad to learn about this as I knew the women when they where kids. I no longer lived in Calf. at the time. If I did I would had let them stay at my house until they got back on their feet. I tried to help a homeless guy find a place to sleep but the shelter had no more room! They had 10 more people staying there than they had room for! I was told the number of homeless people was getting higher all the time! Some people formed a group to find homes to rent for homeless people in my city and towns near us. I am not sure how successful the group was in helping homeless people find homes. I called few times to help but I was never called back! People can be very snobby in my city!
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"Why lie...I need a beer"
From what I've seen of your coping skills, you would probably be the first to turn to the bottle if you found yourself facing homelessness.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 08:58 PM   #34 (permalink)
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From what I've seen of your coping skills, you would probably be the first to turn to the bottle if you found yourself facing homelessness.
Not me? Yay!
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Unread 05-07-2011, 08:59 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Not me? Yay!
Nah...you'd probably deal with it in a pretty healthy way.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 09:22 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Each and everyone of us can be mere inches away from being homeless....Takes a strong person to survive these days.

If I lost my job....house was foreclosed upon....spouse left me, etc. etc., and lost everything I had worked so hard for...I, too, might just simply "give up" and hit the bottle or do drugs....have a nervous breakdown....live in the street, or under a bridge, even a ditch.

I do feel so many homeless people have mental illness, have lost touch with reality......some are alcoholics, some are drug addicts, some have no one "that cares" about them. Many just "give up"...and I've heard some ex-cons (who were in prison) say that "life inside prison was SO MUCH easier than real life on the outside."
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Unread 05-07-2011, 09:56 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Wrong, wrong, wrong!

The fastest growing population of homeless people is families with children. Why? Job loss. Foreclosure. Eviction.
We do have lots of homeless in New Mexico. My sister is Director for the homeless shelter in Santa Fe. She is very good at helping this people who are out of luck and being force out of a job or eviction when they could not pay.
She is hearing and she had voiced in many events including the government council.

Many of the homeless are natives and few homeless outside of their race too. Anyway, with the prices of living in the apartment or houses really have gone up skyrocket that they can not afford to live in a expensive places. Jobs are hard to find when they don't have a places to live like have an addresses or nice clothes to wear to go into the job interviews.

Some of the homeless refuse to stay in the shelter especially in the Winter. They will freeze if they don't have the blankets and some food in them otherwise they will kill themselves being frozen. Life on the streets is not a pretty picture either. So I understand that and learned something from my sister. I don't know if there are some deaf homeless at her shelter. I have never thought of that before. I will ask my sister about that. Very interesting.
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We do have lots of homeless in New Mexico. My sister is Director for the homeless shelter in Santa Fe. She is very good at helping this people who are out of luck and being force out of a job or eviction when they could not pay.
She is hearing and she had voiced in many events including the government council.

Many of the homeless are natives and few homeless outside of their race too. Anyway, with the prices of living in the apartment or houses really have gone up skyrocket that they can not afford to live in a expensive places. Jobs are hard to find when they don't have a places to live like have an addresses or nice clothes to wear to go into the job interviews.

Some of the homeless refuse to stay in the shelter especially in the Winter. They will freeze if they don't have the blankets and some food in them otherwise they will kill themselves being frozen. Life on the streets is not a pretty picture either. So I understand that and learn something from my sister. I don't know if there are some deaf homeless at her shelter. I have never thought of that before. I will ask my sister about that. Very interesting.
Your sister is doing wonderful work. You can be proud of her for serving others.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 10:02 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Your sister is doing wonderful work. You can be proud of her for serving others.
I am really proud of her for doing this. She has tried to help them in her shelter for many years. The homeless were very happy to get help from her in Santa Fe.
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We were almost faced with being homeless, but we cashed in all of our retirement plans and by the skin of our teeth and with lots of overdue bills following us, we managed to move in with MIL. We have paid off most of the bills and are finally beginning to get back onto our feet. Ours was due to the fact that I lost my job and hubby's hours were cut and he was facing a lay-off. I lost my job after we moved from Central to Eastern Missouri.

While I don't have much to help the homeless right now, I do buy gift certificates to McDonald's and Burger King and give out a certificate here and there. We also keep a flat of water in my car and I will hand out bottles of water to them as well. I do not hand over any cash as a lot of them here in town are just out for the beer or such that they can get. There was one lady who was standing on the street corner with a sign. Her hubby was killed in a gang shooting and she was 8 months pregnant. She had no family here and had not eaten for 2 days. The apartment was in her hubby's name and the rents had not been paid and she was evicted. With her permission, I called the local shelter and she was picked up by police and taken there. She has since delivered a healthy baby girl and was given transportation back to NY to her family.
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We were almost faced with being homeless, but we cashed in all of our retirement plans and by the skin of our teeth and with lots of overdue bills following us, we managed to move in with MIL. We have paid off most of the bills and are finally beginning to get back onto our feet. Ours was due to the fact that I lost my job and hubby's hours were cut and he was facing a lay-off. I lost my job after we moved from Central to Eastern Missouri.

While I don't have much to help the homeless right now, I do buy gift certificates to McDonald's and Burger King and give out a certificate here and there. We also keep a flat of water in my car and I will hand out bottles of water to them as well. I do not hand over any cash as a lot of them here in town are just out for the beer or such that they can get. There was one lady who was standing on the street corner with a sign. Her hubby was killed in a gang shooting and she was 8 months pregnant. She had no family here and had not eaten for 2 days. The apartment was in her hubby's name and the rents had not been paid and she was evicted. With her permission, I called the local shelter and she was picked up by police and taken there. She has since delivered a healthy baby girl and was given transportation back to NY to her family.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 11:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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From what I've seen of your coping skills, you would probably be the first to turn to the bottle if you found yourself facing homelessness.
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Facing homelessness you would be the first to turn to drugs.
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Facing homelessness you would be the first to turn to drugs.
First thing she will do if she goes homeless is call up her friends.
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Facing homelessness you would be the first to turn to drugs.
Don't think so. I have coping skills. And I know how to learn from my mistakes. Obviously, you haven't grasped that one yet.

Now, do you have any useful suggestions on working with the homeless for Txgolfer, or are you just in here to troll?
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First thing she will do if she goes homeless is call up her friends.
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This is so not the Texas way....
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What can we do as individuals to help the homeless? It is a issue I have been working on for the past month and will be one area of focus for my new non-profit venture. Looking for creative ideas that any of you might have.

I will post some of the things I have been working on later in the thread.
Funny that you mention this. A co-worker suddenly became homeless about 2 weeks ago. His mother passed away last June, and he had been staying with his mother's best friend. She assured him he would always be welcome there. Then her biological daughter got into some sort of personal problems and needed to move back home, so she booted him out.

He is 22, no relatives. He was living in his car. Everything he owned was in his car (including his mother's ashes).

He lives in my basement apartment now. Temporarily until he can get back on his feet. Sometimes, doing the right thing is easy.
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This is so not the Texas way....
It's not any way.
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Funny that you mention this. A co-worker suddenly became homeless about 2 weeks ago. His mother passed away last June, and he had been staying with his mother's best friend. She assured him he would always be welcome there. Then her biological daughter got into some sort of personal problems and needed to move back home, so she booted him out.

He is 22, no relatives. He was living in his car. Everything he owned was in his car (including his mother's ashes).

He lives in my basement apartment now. Temporarily until he can get back on his feet. Sometimes, doing the right thing is easy.
that's pretty cool. And it reminds me of a thought I had earlier. Homelessness is similar to cancer in that it is much easier to treat if you catch it early.
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that's pretty cool. And it reminds me of a thought I had earlier. Homelessness is similar to cancer in that it is much easier to treat if you catch it early.
He is a good guy too - just a victim of circumstances beyond his control. He has to make a few adjustments ... i.e. I can't hear him so well and my deaf roommates can't hear him at all.

He is our token "hearie" LOL

He really, and I mean, genuinely, misses his mom. He was truly lost - I hope I can help him find his way.

For all those out there reading this - kiss your mom today and let her know you appreciate her.
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I know few but i don't see them anymore thank god but they were making up stories from where they really came from obviously booze is talking..
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Some prefer the stress of finding a warm place to sleep and when their next meal will be over being binded to a contract of apartment-dwelling or home ownership. Apparently it's a different kind of stress.
I have found that for some, being homeless is the only choice they are allowed to make for themselves. I know this sounds strange but some, mostly substance abuse or DV individuals get so frustrated by the goverment offices telling them the "requirements" to have a place to stay, even in a shelter, I was told this many times when I did counseling here in Md. It was expressed to me as "at least I get to say what I eat and where i go and sleep" even if it is dangerous..
they prefer it..."My last freedom" I was told...When I asked if they would not prefer a permenant place to stay..to my suprise I was told NO " why should I be put somewhere, then sit there and wait to die" I will admit most of these ppl had either a substance, violence or psychiatric issue. After years of trying to understand and doing what I could I finally understood..These ppl's lives are out of their control, for whatever reason. It is indeed their last freedom to make
a choice for themselves even if it is a "poor or bad choice" in our eyes. It Is THEIR CHOICE. I finally understand and know the only way to change this way of thinking is to catch the young men and woman, the kids, and show them their worth, give them something to be proud about. This country is allowing it's moral values to crumble because so many of us, won't even make eye contact with the homeless, or people in wheelchairs, or anyone we precieve as different from ourselves , they scare us. Great binLaden is dead. While we refuse to see the "dead" walking amoung us...Those ppl we step over. and we are going to have another generation soon, more violent, more demanding,
undisgnosed and self medicating with street drugs and alcohol...sorry I ran on but this is a topic that touches me deeply. Midnight..♥♥♥
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Homelessness is very complicated. I like Jiro's comment about talking to homeless people. It's really important not de-humanize homeless people. Organizations should treat homeless people as "clients," not victims or merely aid recipients. Very often, a trauma leads to homelessness, like the loss of a loved one or the loss of all material resources (including the means to earn resources, i.e., a job). Most homeless people experience shame, which is a toxic emotion. These people need mental health care.

One thing is for sure, homelessness is on the rise and it's an important, urgent societal issue. With the economic crisis, more women and children are homeless. Children need stability and security for proper emotional development. If the problem is not solved, the ramifications for the next generation are huge.
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It's true that most (if not all) homeless people that I encounter are drunks or drug addicts. However, don't you wonder if they represent only a small percentage of the homeless? I know that if I were homeless, I doubt I'd go around begging for money for 2 reasons: I'd find other ways (I DO have family and friends) and there are shelters 2) I know they would think I am a drug addict, so I most likely would get better success if I simply asked for food.

Wouldn't you think that those of the homeless who are desperate enough to interact with strangers (by begging for $$) are the drug addicts? Wouldn't that give the illusion that MOST homeless people are druggies?
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Good point! One reason that the homeless are invisible is because the authorities dismantle "tent cities" and kick people out of places.
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I always told myself that if I ever came into a large volume of money, I would contact wholesalers and start assembling "kits" that contain things like blankets, pillow, basic staples such as toothbrushes, toothpaste, towel, etc. Probably the most effective form of distribution would be via the shelters, which I could only hope that frees up funds for them to keep more beds open or add more. I could just be wishful here as I think this would have to be done on a large scale to make even a dent. Food for thought?
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Wrong, wrong, wrong!

The fastest growing population of homeless people is families with children. Why? Job loss. Foreclosure. Eviction.
This is also the fastest growing homeless population in Florida as well due to job loss and eviction etc...

Not all homeless people are scrubby looking drunks or druggies as people percieve.
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It's true that most (if not all) homeless people that I encounter are drunks or drug addicts. However, don't you wonder if they represent only a small percentage of the homeless? I know that if I were homeless, I doubt I'd go around begging for money for 2 reasons: I'd find other ways (I DO have family and friends) and there are shelters 2) I know they would think I am a drug addict, so I most likely would get better success if I simply asked for food.

Wouldn't you think that those of the homeless who are desperate enough to interact with strangers (by begging for $$) are the drug addicts? Wouldn't that give the illusion that MOST homeless people are druggies?
How do you know the homeless people you encounter are drunks or druggies?
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I always told myself that if I ever came into a large volume of money, I would contact wholesalers and start assembling "kits" that contain things like blankets, pillow, basic staples such as toothbrushes, toothpaste, towel, etc. Probably the most effective form of distribution would be via the shelters, which I could only hope that frees up funds for them to keep more beds open or add more. I could just be wishful here as I think this would have to be done on a large scale to make even a dent. Food for thought?
It's a good idea. It takes just one person to get the ball rolling.
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