Random Vents..... - Page 61

**deafskeptic** · 12-21-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Gaslighting?

See post 1799.

Sunshine · 12-21-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

Its how they make conversation. Is all. It's also widely discussed.

Person A: "Boy... you will never guess what happened to me today..!"

Person B is then forced to say "I have totally no idea, what happened to you?

Deaf way: They tell you the story from the get go.

Agree! Hearies need understand get to point! Sheesh. You want attention, just say give me attention please. No need pussyfoot around, try force people want conversation.

MyNameIsNO · 12-21-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

Its how they make conversation. Is all. It's also widely discussed.

Person A: "Boy... you will never guess what happened to me today..!"

Person B is then forced to say "I have totally no idea, what happened to you?

Deaf way: They tell you the story from the get go.

yes i does agreeing with you. i am noticing, hearing people not same way communication style as deafs people. deafs people never wasting time for talk about story. hearing waste our time talk too **** long until tell us real story. also, deafie rarely put sugar on word bec they very honest!!!! some hearing scare for being blunt.

**shel90** · 12-21-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Thanks..hugs!

**shel90** · 12-21-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

CSign...

I am going to be nice to you this time. The only reason for that is that I suspect that you're genuine and really do not know what you've gotten yourself into. I have reached to the conclusion of suspicion due to me being informed of you PMing several members about me and trying to get them to see "how mean I am" and such. That's okay.

What we have here is two worlds colliding. And sadly - you don't even see it at all.

Allow me to demonstrate...

You came here and created this original post.

Naturally, we replied with your posting history in mind. Your present stance does not matter. People have mentioned that you've been trying to change and stuff lately. But they also have mentioned that you've bit a bit too much to chew when you started out posting here.

Now, allow me to introduce you to AllDeaf.com. This is a forum mainly for the Deaf people. (You guys who feel that you're deaf, shut the hell up. There's none of you that are deaf.)

The reason I brought the "Deaf people forum" up is because you made that post with a hearing perspective. The hearing perspective that I see is the "I'm going to make this ambiguous post and have people ask me for more information." Hearing people work like that naturally. There is nothing wrong about that. But again, this is a Deaf forum. Give us all the information, already. Quite frankly, I'm tired of the hearing perspective here. Remember this, Point A.

After quite a few posters squabbling back and forth about your post. Please take note, it garnered world-wide attention. You had posters from all over the United States of America and International posters chiming in on your post, congratulations. You brought this post in:

Another unclear post designed towards the hearing audience. Totally evading everything. Only if you said something like "Geez, what's wrong with people on Facebook saying that their kid has a 105.7 degree fever and they elect not to go to the doctor!" If you had said that in point "A" I showed you earlier... None of the squabbles would have had happened. However, we have reached point B. This was also your chance to swoop in and tell us all "My bad, I did not include more information. The family did not go to the doctors, blah blah." That would have shifted the whole thing into your favor, but you chose not to do that.

After a bit more discussion you come in with this post:

"I have totallly noooo idea about anything!!!" "Woe is me..." Come on. Seriously, come on. This game has been played out so much... The cards are already fading and falling apart in it's own fiber structures...

And you wonder why I don't like you much at all.

Once you cater to the Deaf perspective around here which is getting to the point then things would be solved with NO issues.

Allow me to give you an example of reframing your vents so you can improve your experience here at AllDeaf.com.

Scenario 1:

AD Squabble - then you come back with:

---OR--

instead of:

People will start feeling less quizzical towards you. They will offer up less animosity. When you resort to sarcasm - people don't exactly appreciate it after a "hearing perspective post". After all to this point - we STILL do not even know if the kid has been to the doctors. Trust me on this: when you back up a little and fill us in, we will not judge you. We respect people who have a set and let us know that they were in the wrong. (Hint: life gets a LOT easier here after that break-in happens.)

Scenario 2:

I know.. I know... It was a vent. And the above scenario would probably have not been likely to happen. But that is the exact example of what a good post for the forum here would look like. You then would have never received the "Announcing an upcoming rib roast." post from me, some resistance from other posters because you left out vital information. In this scenario you would have gotten people to ask you questions and probably more than likely offers to help. Then you would have never had to resort to the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th post you made in this matter.
_________________________________________________

Now... Do you know if the kid has seen a doctor? Do you know if the mother has called the doctor? Do you know if the kid is currently in good hands?

The reason I am not too worried - my kid did have a 105 degree fever while she was a baby - and her doctor said that it was okay and told us what to do at home. So I didn't have to go in. Too bad Facebook did not exist at the time. Different strokes for different folks. No need to go all "WTF" over things like that. You grew up in an era where you were exposed to lead paint, unrestricted gun rights, asbestos, etc and lived to tell about it.

Wow..just wow!

**shel90** · 12-21-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Journey

"The hearing perspective that I see is the "I'm going to make this ambiguous post and have people ask me for more information." Hearing people work like that naturally."

Interesting perspective PFH. When you have a minute could you expand on this. Do you feel hearing people are naturally ambiguous when they speak or post online? If so, why do you think that is?

In real life, people in the hearing culture tend to beat around the bush while people in Deaf culture are more straightforward and blunt. I was raised in the hearing world and got involved in the Deaf culture about 11 years ago. I see a BIG difference.

posts from hell · 12-21-2011, 08:49 PM

Just a FYI. CSign has seen that post. Her action was expected. She did not reply to it, and headed out to the deaf ed forum.

No "Alright, thanks for the information, i'll try to better myself" post.

Not surprised here.

CSign · 12-21-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

Just a FYI. CSign has seen that post. Her action was expected. She did not reply to it, and headed out to the deaf ed forum.

No "Alright, thanks for the information, i'll try to better myself" post.

Not surprised here.

Just got out of a movie and scanned through that lengthy post. I can't respond now. Once I'm home I'll be able to read and respond.

One thing I will say now is that I haven't PM'd anyone about you PFH. I did respond to another member who sent me a PM regarding you though. They didn't think the way you were communicating with me was appropriate. Perhaps that's what you are talking about.

I suppose I should be flattered you spent that much time thinking and writing about me.

**ash345** · 12-21-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CSign

Just got out of a movie and scanned through that length post. I can't respond now as I'm going to pick up my boys. Once I'm home I'll be able to read and respond.

One thing I will say now is that I haven't PM'd anyone about you PFH. I did respond to another member who sent me a PM regarding you though. They didn't think the way you were communicating with me was appropriate. Perhaps that's what you are talking about.

I suppose I should be flattered you spent that much time thinking and writing about me.

he was explaining things... the Deaf way... hearies don't understand the deaf way...

DeafTim · 12-21-2011, 10:06 PM

It's official. City of Columbus,OH breaks rainfall record in modern history. Over 53.5 inches of rain this yr and more comin tomorrow. Grrrrrr...

Let it be snow,Let it be snow, Let it be snow. Frosty the Snowman sings that song.

AlleyCat · 12-21-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ash345

yes it is... between an hour and an hour and a half each way every day...

That's ugly. I used to do that myself and gave up that job. I worked there 3 years, loved it, HATED the commute. And in the winter, it was easily a 3 hour commute each way if it so much as snowed or rained. Sigh. Sorry you are having to endure that.

H.o.H_Angel · 12-21-2011, 10:12 PM

I was really stressed about some things yesterday, and I kinda lashed out at my friend. I did not mean to, he just messaged me at the wrong time on my messenger and I feel really bad. He is not online anymore, so I cannot tell him I am sorry. I feel like such a jerk.

CSign · 12-21-2011, 11:01 PM

All I really am going to say is this:

This thread is, "Random Vents". I had a "random vent" that I felt compelled to share. I gave as much info as I had, and I thought my post was clear that they weren't at the doctor. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear for some people.

I also don't have a, "woe is me" attitude. If I am not clear about something whether it be in real life or this forum, I ask for clarity before I respond or jump to conclusions.

I didn't think an innocuous vent would turn into a hearing vs. deaf issue.

I don't spend my time PM'ing others about other posters, and that includes you PFH. I welcome a PM from you and you can share with me who you are talking about- if there is someone who told you that. If they did, they are full of baloney. You should ask them to forward you (and me) the message they are referring to. Because it doesn't exist.

All I can say is that everyday I try to learn and understand more about the Deaf perspective. That's all I can do. I'm sorry some don't see me for who I really am.

AlleyCat · 12-21-2011, 11:05 PM

With the smartphones, these days anybody can be posting from anywhere. God knows I do.

***naisho*** · 12-21-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

With the smartphones, these days anybody can be posting from anywhere. God knows I do.

These days, the EOL (end of life) of smartphones drive me crazy. A vicious cycle for tech lovers.

The first phone I owned lasted me like 2-3 years.
Then I got my first smartphone in 2009.
Christmas 2010 I upgraded to another smartphone.
In May 2011 I got another one.
Then in August 2011 I got the one I'm using now.

And I'm already drooling over what is going to be released over next year... sigh!

**KristinaB** · 12-21-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

These days, the EOL (end of life) of smartphones drive me crazy. A vicious cycle for tech lovers.

The first phone I owned lasted me like 2-3 years.
Then I got my first smartphone in 2009.
Christmas 2010 I upgraded to another smartphone.
In May 2011 I got another one.
Then in August 2011 I got the one I'm using now.

And I'm already drooling over what is going to be released over next year... sigh!

I still don't have a "smartphone" and don't plan on getting one. Now, that's not to say I won't, but I just don't plan on it.

candybrowneyes · 12-21-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

These days, the EOL (end of life) of smartphones drive me crazy. A vicious cycle for tech lovers.

The first phone I owned lasted me like 2-3 years.
Then I got my first smartphone in 2009.
Christmas 2010 I upgraded to another smartphone.
In May 2011 I got another one.
Then in August 2011 I got the one I'm using now.

And I'm already drooling over what is going to be released over next year... sigh!

I just bought my 3rd smart phone this year

**mbrek** · 12-21-2011, 11:41 PM

Yow! I'm thinking next year of upgrading the "dumb" phone that I've had for about five years to a smart phone.

I decided long ago that I can't keep current with technology.

Royale · 12-22-2011, 03:18 AM

Black Ice! #$%$#&^&%*&^!!!

I slipped and fell down on snow-covered black ice across undeveloped gravel parking lot near my work. I ended up in hospital with a sprained ankle.

I will not have to go to work until January 3rd. Nice eh?!

blondon704 · 12-22-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Black Ice! #$%$#&^&%*&^!!!

I slipped and fell down on snow-covered black ice across undeveloped gravel parking lot near my work. I ended up in hospital with a sprained ankle.

I will not have to go to work until January 3rd. Nice eh?!

Nice about the work not nice about the ankle. Hope it feels better soon :-)

Babyblue · 12-22-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Black Ice! #$%$#&^&%*&^!!!

I slipped and fell down on snow-covered black ice across undeveloped gravel parking lot near my work. I ended up in hospital with a sprained ankle.

I will not have to go to work until January 3rd. Nice eh?!

Well....... Think of it as a Christmas vacation.

I hope you get better soon. Sprained ankle is no fun!

**Bottesini** · 12-22-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Black Ice! #$%$#&^&%*&^!!!

I slipped and fell down on snow-covered black ice across undeveloped gravel parking lot near my work. I ended up in hospital with a sprained ankle.

I will not have to go to work until January 3rd. Nice eh?!

Hopefully you will feel better to enjoy Christmas.

howag · 12-22-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Black Ice! #$%$#&^&%*&^!!!

I slipped and fell down on snow-covered black ice across undeveloped gravel parking lot near my work. I ended up in hospital with a sprained ankle.

I will not have to go to work until January 3rd. Nice eh?!

Lots of RICE will help(Rest Ice Compression Elevation). I made the mistake of carrying on a basketball game when I badly sprained my ankle and I doubt it will ever recover to how it was before.

**ash345** · 12-22-2011, 10:31 AM

my hour to an hour and a half drive today turned into over 2 hours... love the snow... but hate stupid drivers

JabberJay · 12-22-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

turn off your hearing aids.

We are learning to sign, Lee knows just enough to complain and I know just enough to understand him. So even with aids out he can still complain to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by naisho

These days, the EOL (end of life) of smartphones drive me crazy. A vicious cycle for tech lovers.

The first phone I owned lasted me like 2-3 years.
Then I got my first smartphone in 2009.
Christmas 2010 I upgraded to another smartphone.
In May 2011 I got another one.
Then in August 2011 I got the one I'm using now.

And I'm already drooling over what is going to be released over next year... sigh!

9/10 times on on my phone here and no one has said any different, I only have access to a computer a few hours a week. I'm on my second phone because I dropped the first in a parking lot and smashed the screen

Beach girl · 12-22-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Black Ice! #$%$#&^&%*&^!!!

I slipped and fell down on snow-covered black ice across undeveloped gravel parking lot near my work. I ended up in hospital with a sprained ankle.

I will not have to go to work until January 3rd. Nice eh?!

Oh, be CAREFUL of that stuff! My husband's cousin (I'm sure quite a bit older than you) slipped on the ice and fell last year.

He ended up paralyzed from the shoulders down. He can barely move his fingers. He is working on being able to wiggle his toes. He was in the hospital for several months and now is in some sort of rehabilitation facility. They do not expect that he will ever walk again, and he will be fortunate to even be able to use a wheelchair. He will never live independently again.

It has now been nearly a year since his accident, and essentially, he is still bedridden, other than when he gets some physical therapy to try to get him strong enough to use a wheelchair.

Moral of the story: Be VERY careful of icy pavement, on the sidewalk, in parking lots, wherever. A fall can lead to life-changing complications.

I'm sorry you've got a sprained ankle, but count your blessings as compared to what it could have been.

**mbrek** · 12-22-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ash345

my hour to an hour and a half drive today turned into over 2 hours... love the snow... but hate stupid drivers

How exasperating! Unfortunately, the two seem to go hand in hand.

**ash345** · 12-22-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mbrek

How exasperating! Unfortunately, the two seem to go hand in hand.

yes they do... and its so frustrating. but at least I get to see PFH! that makes things better! and you will be here sunday!!!

**KristinaB** · 12-22-2011, 06:17 PM

I am sick of these stupid cretins that can't cross the road at the intersection and feel that when it is dark outside and they have dark toned skin and wear dark clothing, they think all the drivers can see them and brake in time. I had to do a quick exchange of a gift and when coming home, I had to slow way down as a car, doing a U-turn, died in the road. They were restarting the car and couldn't get it started. I slowed way down, and managed to get around them, when these 3 stupid females (they don't deserve to be called women) darted out into the middle of the road and danced across the street. Keep in mind, this is 5:30 PM on the last workday for most people before the holiday weekend. I almost hit 2 of them and I had a Sheriff behind me. He flipped on his lights and got all 3 into his car. Asked if I was okay and fit to drive home. He had my mother promise to call him directly to let him know we got home safely after that. I am still shaking over this.

blondon704 · 12-22-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KristinaB

I am sick of these stupid cretins that can't cross the road at the intersection and feel that when it is dark outside and they have dark toned skin and wear dark clothing, they think all the drivers can see them and brake in time. I had to do a quick exchange of a gift and when coming home, I had to slow way down as a car, doing a U-turn, died in the road. They were restarting the car and couldn't get it started. I slowed way down, and managed to get around them, when these 3 stupid females (they don't deserve to be called women) darted out into the middle of the road and danced across the street. Keep in mind, this is 5:30 PM on the last workday for most people before the holiday weekend. I almost hit 2 of them and I had a Sheriff behind me. He flipped on his lights and got all 3 into his car. Asked if I was okay and fit to drive home. He had my mother promise to call him directly to let him know we got home safely after that. I am still shaking over this.

People can be so inconsiderate some times. Only thinking of themselves. What if they had been slammed head on? They wouldn't be dancing then. Oh well. Hope you shake it off soon :-)

12-21-2011, 10:06 PM	#1810 (permalink)
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12-21-2011, 10:12 PM	#1812 (permalink)
H.o.H_Angel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California Posts: 458	*Feeling really bad :( I was really stressed about some things yesterday, and I kinda lashed out at my friend. I did not mean to, he just messaged me at the wrong time on my messenger and I feel really bad. He is not online anymore, so I cannot tell him I am sorry. I feel like such a jerk.

12-21-2011, 11:05 PM	#1814 (permalink)
AlleyCat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my time zone Posts: 10,819	With the smartphones, these days anybody can be posting from anywhere. God knows I do. Babyblue and H.o.H_Angel like this.

12-21-2011, 11:41 PM	#1818 (permalink)
mbrek Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,512 Blog Entries: 1	Yow! I'm thinking next year of upgrading the "dumb" phone that I've had for about five years to a smart phone. I decided long ago that I can't keep current with technology. rockin'robin and blondon704 like this. __________________ Sarcasm - just another little service I offer.

12-22-2011, 10:31 AM	#1824 (permalink)
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12-21-2011, 08:49 PM	#1807 (permalink)
posts from hell Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,434	Just a FYI. CSign has seen that post. Her action was expected. She did not reply to it, and headed out to the deaf ed forum. No "Alright, thanks for the information, i'll try to better myself" post. Not surprised here.

12-21-2011, 11:01 PM	#1813 (permalink)
CSign Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Best Coast, USA Posts: 3,194	All I really am going to say is this: This thread is, "Random Vents". I had a "random vent" that I felt compelled to share. I gave as much info as I had, and I thought my post was clear that they weren't at the doctor. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear for some people. I also don't have a, "woe is me" attitude. If I am not clear about something whether it be in real life or this forum, I ask for clarity before I respond or jump to conclusions. I didn't think an innocuous vent would turn into a hearing vs. deaf issue. I don't spend my time PM'ing others about other posters, and that includes you PFH. I welcome a PM from you and you can share with me who you are talking about- if there is someone who told you that. If they did, they are full of baloney. You should ask them to forward you (and me) the message they are referring to. Because it doesn't exist. All I can say is that everyday I try to learn and understand more about the Deaf perspective. That's all I can do. I'm sorry some don't see me for who I really am.

12-22-2011, 03:18 AM	#1819 (permalink)
Royale Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: World's Second Coldest Capital City! Posts: 4,418	Black Ice! #$%$#&^&%*&^!!! I slipped and fell down on snow-covered black ice across undeveloped gravel parking lot near my work. I ended up in hospital with a sprained ankle. I will not have to go to work until January 3rd. Nice eh?!

12-22-2011, 06:17 PM	#1829 (permalink)
KristinaB New SDIT Deacon Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Land of the backstroke Posts: 13,775	I am sick of these stupid cretins that can't cross the road at the intersection and feel that when it is dark outside and they have dark toned skin and wear dark clothing, they think all the drivers can see them and brake in time. I had to do a quick exchange of a gift and when coming home, I had to slow way down as a car, doing a U-turn, died in the road. They were restarting the car and couldn't get it started. I slowed way down, and managed to get around them, when these 3 stupid females (they don't deserve to be called women) darted out into the middle of the road and danced across the street. Keep in mind, this is 5:30 PM on the last workday for most people before the holiday weekend. I almost hit 2 of them and I had a Sheriff behind me. He flipped on his lights and got all 3 into his car. Asked if I was okay and fit to drive home. He had my mother promise to call him directly to let him know we got home safely after that. I am still shaking over this. Beach girl likes this. __________________ Taking life one day at a time.

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