Mistyrose

Come again? Dont call us meat eaters "stupid", Taurus, that is not
nice .., i'd say "to each his own" whether we want to eat
meat or not, that is OUR decision, period. I think a good combination
of lean meat, vegetables, whole wheat grains, 1%, 2% or skim milk,
low fat cheeses, etc, you know the works will do wonders for our
bodies, just be careful not to go overboard on sugary stuff, maybe
a little bit once in awhile.
Of course, exercise is good like walking, jogging, hiking, go to the
gym or whatever you enjoy. Just get off the couch and get moving,
lol!
If you want to just be vegetarian, thats fine, its YOUR CHOICE.

Deafness

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Mistyrose

Yes, thats true!

dreama

I'm afraid you are wrong there. I've been anorexic in the past so I should know what anorexia is like. So then I decided to go vegan. My friend and neibour at the time talked me out of it though. So I ended up turning to drugs instead. I now wish I had stood my ground so I could have been vegan for 10 years longer. I am now Vegan and drug free. I am also no longer anorexic. You can even call me fat without me going into major slimming mode.

A person CAN live a healthy vegan diet without meat, fish, egg, dairy or honey. I do it all the time. I am no where near anorexic. I am going to vegan camp tommorrow. I know someone there who has been vegan all his life he is 33 now and in really good shape.

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hohDougRN

I will not comment as most of my feelings have in one way or another been voiced. I don't want to beat a dead horse. (sorry that meant to just be metaphor)

The one thing I would like to comment is please be mindful and tactful about criticising. I am not saying criticism is bad...but doing it maturely and constructively will definately help your cause and point of view. There is nothing wrong with expression of different opinions, but not at the expense of others feelings.

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PuyoPiyo

I can understand how you feel completely, Taurus.

I have been told "You are fucking skinny, eat more!", "OMG Ants!!!", "Help Spiders!", "Please turn on all of the lights, it's too dark!", "I need money NOW!", and keep going.. This does made me feel so angry when some of people are greedy, ego, and hatred. As speaking of Buddhism, I believe those three words, greedy, ego, and hatred, nobody can handle with those. But I will keep the religion out of this.

Anyway, I can tell everyone that I was very skinny because I want to leave more foods on the sale at the grocery for others. I am not scare of spiders and ants because they are actually much harmless that you think and it is absolute unnecessary to take the incests as big deal. I was poor because I know I don't need the money to be happy. I'd rather to live with less electric so that I can save much of the enviroments.

I really hope that ALL of people in the world would think the same thing and do the same thing.

Don't spoil with thing or money, spoil with happiness and love.

KarissaMann05

Thank you. Very true.
I never understand why some people think vegan is totally unhealthy. So bullshit... =/

dead money

lol at the veggie preacher and his contradictions. So ridiculous.... Again things have already been said i cant really care to repeat but i just laughed at that...

*takes a bite of a nice juicy sirloin steak*

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First of all, good venting - Taurus !

Each person is different. We cannot judge what and how she/he do when we see different as them. Simple accept them if they like what they are as the same as they accept what you are. Nobody should dictate/assume the people's decision/choice.

Anyway, for the example about some vegetarian and vegan ADers. We debated at other thread about animals etc. They called me a hypocrite because they know I am an animal lover and eat meat and milk products which is no sense to them. They said if I am really animal lover which mean that I should not eat meat and milk products. All what I do is not take their post personal and let them think what they want.

It's not my place to judge/label/insult the people as a hypocrite when they buy product with animal-tested when they are against animal-tested. I have seen it quite a lot but I choose to keep myself and respect their choice. I accept the fact that everyone are human being.. no prefect.

It's hard to beleive that the people dictate you over your lifestyle and eating habits. Honsetly, I really don't care what and how kind of lifestyle my friends have but I accept what they are... I would be glad to give tips/feedback/recommendation IF they ask me for my view, not dictate them.

I see some people make no sense and love to insult/label/judge someone as a hypocrite when they are guilty the same thing.

That's why I would advise you to not take it serious when you see different as them when they beleive what is right for them. If they do not want go for a walk then accept it.




Exactly!!!

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BradB08

I don't think you're ever going to find a diet that will work for everyone.

And there's no such thing as veggies being better than meat and visa-versa.

NEWIDME

Based on the orig post, your hubby probably has a bad back cuz he eats meat!

David

Those that eat meat are healthier than those that don't. You cannot get all your 22 essential and non-essential amino acids from a so-called "vegan" diet. Yes, I know what I'm talking about; I'm a health teacher.

freckles

dave, can you list all of them - I'm interested to know.

David

No, I can't. Shouldn't be that hard to find, though. Just type it in "Google" or something.

NEWIDME

My grandpa lived to 95. He was from Kansas and was a meat/potatoe man his whole life. He, nor did my grandma, have any health issues. If eatting veggi only diet prevents cancer, we'd all be doing it.

As far as the animal thing in love and marriage respects....did you know that Swan's mate for life w/ only one other swan. when a partner swan dies, the other one never picks another partner. They might have marriage cermonies but we don't speak swan so we wouldn't know. Did you know the ape family has relationships w/ one another and also have complex societies? How about the lions? Elephants are a good example too. Did you know horses are among the most affectionate animal? And dolphins!!....I ain't even gonna go there.

Balance is key as mentioned many times above. And also, did you know that there are plenty of lean meats to eat? Did you know they have certified organic meat available? Not only is protein important but other vitamins are, too.

Your post reminds me of the assholes that I have met in the past that say that technology should have never gotten this far. They tell me that technology is bad for whatever reason. I tell them to f-off because my hearing aids are technical!! You remind me of people like that, Taurus.

Oh, and are you saying that Christ is bad cuz He ate fish? Lamb's? Cow's? God only know's what else.

freckles

ah I see dave... just liked to see in other words. so, nevermind.

CrzyMeg

I have necessary for meat.

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hohDougRN

I just have neccesary for SEE food

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Taurus

Ahh, that's nice of you to share ur story it is very interesting!

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Taurus

I agree it is so bullshit that some ppl think vegan is totally unhealthy..

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Taurus

You wont tell because u have no information to prove us wrong..

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PuyoPiyo

No problemo and thanks!

Taurus

You welcome, I'm glad I'm not alone..

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Dixie

She's not anorexic,
she's orthorexic. She's has an unhealthy obsession for eating 'healthy' to the point that she overexcercises, and eats only a select of foods simply becuase they are healthy.

An orthorexic can exhibit similar behaviors of an anorexic, though the main difference is that in the orthorexic, there is no general fear of food - just a fear of foods that may be unhealthy.

I do know of one orthorexic that weighs 55 pounds and has been in and out of the hospital, and it is a guy.

As for the main topic, Taurus you are largely misguided on as to WHY you are vegan. If your vegan you need to do it for the right reasons, not because of the environmental scare.

I am not going to sit here and tell you not to be vegan because of this or that, it's not my place to do so. You're an adult, you're free to make your own decisions.

So please quit preaching to everyone that they need to be vegan. It is not your place to do so. You need to be focusing on finishing school, and seriously educating yourself.

I will ditto everything that has been said about having a balanced life, and respecting one's choice to be or not to be vegan.

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Taurus

My weight is 160 pounds..

I have many reasons why I'm vegan.. BUT Mostly are for environment and animals..

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Dixie

I didnt say you were at an unhealthy weight. I am just saying that orthorexia can have it's devastating effects.

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BradB08

I don't care what you eat as long as you don't try to tell other people that you eat better than them, that x food is better than y food, etc.

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PuyoPiyo

Of course you are not alone

David

I was just trying to share what I know is healthy and what isn't. My advice is research based, not opinion based. I have been involved in the field for many years and I have never seen a healthy "vegan", primarily because they refuse to do it correctly. True, you can get all amino acids through a very generous amount of complementary protein ingestion, but almost everyone who tries eventually gives up and decides to just eat whatever is easiest. Think about it, would you rather eat a small portion of a great variety of foods just to get a small amount of protein, or would you rather eat one small piece of chicken or fish? I thought so, and I agree.

Anyone can convince themselves they are healthy, no matter how unhealthy they really are. However, I know for a fact, through research and education (college, not Internet or magazines), what is really and actually healthy. This is my career; this is what I teach children. I do not appreciate being told that I am wrong when all I was trying to do was give advice. Frankly, if you take it offensively, its your fault; its your issue. YOU are the one who got offended. I did not post anything to offend anyone.

I respectfully bow out.