Need someone help me what video say.. and wish have closed caption~ 8 belles

Phillips · 05-05-2008, 10:09 PM

Anyone do mind typing what video say?

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August · 05-05-2008, 11:16 PM

PART 1

00:00 - 02:00

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Matt Lauer: But first we want to talk about triumph and tragedy at this year's Kentucky Derby. This year's "Run for the Roses" lived up to its billing as the most exciting two minutes in sports, but right after the horses crossed the finish line, something went terribly wrong. Here's NBC's Chris Jansing:

Chris: At horse racing's greatest event, 8 Belles ran the greatest event of her life...and the last. Moments after a spectacular 2nd place finish to Big Brown, the only female horse in the Kentucky Derby faltered and then fell.

Man: All of a sudden several bones fractured in the ankle, so it's an unexplainable situation.

Chris: Injuries so catastrophic, 8 Belles was euthanized before her trainer even knew she was hurt. It's just the latest thoroughbred heartbreak. A day earlier at Churchill Downs, a 4-year-old named Chiloki (?) went down. At last year's Breeders' Cup, the colt George Washington was euthanized. And most famously, Barbaro at the Preakness in 2006, sustaining injuries that months later would kill him.

The question is, "why?" One answer may be the surface. Churchill Downs is a traditional dirt track, but a growing number of American race tracks are going to synthetic surfaces, believing they may be safer. Some critics are also suggesting a filly should not have run against 19 colts in such a demanding race, though she beat all but one of them. And there are renewed questions about bloodlines and whether commercial breeders focus on producing horses that are swift but not necessarily sound.

Rick Dutrow: You're always gonna see horses break down on the track no matter what.

Chris: Experts say that while safety in horse racing can be improved, the sport will never be completely safe.

Dr. Joe Morgan: It's just like any other high-profile athlete, you have other athletes that tear out knees and never play again. The difference in our sport is we end up with euthanasia.

Chris: It's unlikely an autopsy will reveal exactly why 8 Belles collapsed, but she ran her heart out even as her ankles failed. For today, Chris Jansing in Arcadia, CA.

August · 05-05-2008, 11:35 PM

PART 2

02:01 - 05:04

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Matt Lauer: Larry Jones was 8 Belle's trainer and Dr. Larry Bramlage (?) was the veterinarian in charge of the Kentucky Derby on Saturday. Guys, good morning to both of you. I know this is heartbreaking for anybody who either knows the sport or is just a casual observer. Mr. Jones, let me start with you. One of the questions we've heard so much over the last 48 hours is, "How could this happen?" This horse, this filly looked so strong in the stretch, leaving all but the eventual winner behind, and then crosses the finish line and suffers this devastating injury. How can something like that happen?

Larry Jones: Well, I'm gonna be honest with you, Matt. I've been in this game a long time, and I have never, ever seen a horse gallop a quarter of a mile after the finish line and this happen. This is the first time I've ever heard of it. It's just, they don't do what happened to her.

Matt: Dr. Bramlage have you ever seen anything like this before in all your years?

Bramlage: No I haven't. I've been following the tape. After the race and looking at it, it appears as if she just got a little rubbery-legged from having put in such a great effort, then the right leg began to get a little sore. She shifted to the left and then the left got a fracture, so it's a freak thing.

Matt: There are larger questions being asked already. Mr. Jones, let me start with you. Some people are saying the surface, that in general, dirt surfaces are difficult for these horses and that the move should be made to go to artificial surfaces. How do you feel about that, Mr. Jones?

Jones: Well, you know, we feel like the track played no issue on this, this day. The track was very good. We had a lot of rain, they had sealed the track that morning and it dried wonderful throughout the day. That is the issues with the synthetic surfaces, they are supposed to be safer and they're having some proof that they are somewhat safer but the track on Saturday was as good as any racetrack you could ever hope to race on, and we just don't feel like the track was an issue that day.

Matt: Dr. Bramlage, what about the idea that perhaps we are only hearing about the high-profile cases of this? You know we hear of Barbaro, we hear of 8 Belles, and a lot of people are wondering, "How often does this happen to these horses on smaller tracks around the country or in practice sessions, and we don't even know this is going on?"

Bramlage: Well there's data that exists. The injury rate is a bit under 2/10 of 1 percent, and so it's looked at. That data is kept available and is published, so we are looking at this very hard and we're working hard on improving the situation.

Matt: And Mr. Jones, this is your passion. This is your chosen career. There was a rather pointed article on the front page of the sports section of the New York Times yesterday, written by a guy who said perhaps it's time to start reconsidering how we view this sport, that the sport of kings should perhaps start to be viewed in the context of even animal fighting. It's THAT tough and difficult on these animals. How would you respond to that?

August · 05-05-2008, 11:50 PM

PART 3

05:05 - 07:08

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Jones: Well, I disagree wholeheartedly and I know these horses run because they like to run. I mean, if you knew how many horses were injured in the fields running and just playing with other horses, I'm gonna be honest with you, we've had more horses injured on the farm than we have on the race track. They do more injury to theirself. This sport is not that cruel, and everyone does the very best to make sure it is a safe track-

Matt (interrupting): I just wanna make sure I understand the context that you just put that in. You said "This sport is not THAT cruel." And i wanna make sure we understand your words. You're not saying, are you suggesting there is SOME cruelty?

Jones: No, what I'm saying is the horses are more cruel to theirself in the wild or in everyday life than this sport is to them. The fields they run in are not manicured like the race track. And they don't have people to keep them from running through fences. If you just knew how horses reacted on their own, and people think they should be turned to the wild, trust me, this is a lot better life for them than that.

Matt: So this event on Saturday, as tragic as it is, does not cause you to rethink your participation whatsoever?

Jones: Well no, I mean we've done the very best we can to make this very good for our horses. I mean these are like our children. I see my horses a lot more than I get to see my children. But no, not at all am- Do I worry that it may ever happen again? It could, but I sure don't expect it to. Not like it happened to 8 Belles.

Matt: Larry Jones and Dr. Larry Bramlage. Again guys, thanks for talking to me. It's a heartbreaking situation and I know you both feel it intimately. Thanks very much. You know, Larry Jones talks about his children, and I was watching with Jack, almost 7, and Romy (?), who's 4. How do you explain this? This great race, and everybody's having a good time, and then all of a sudden - tragedy.

Meredith: That's what everybody's gonna remember from the Kentucky Derby.

Al: 2 years in a row, something's happened.

Matt: It's been horrible. Anyway-

FIN.

Wokamuka · 05-06-2008, 01:09 AM

and ya'lls knows that the hecks I is talkin' about:

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The question is, "why?" One answer may be the surface. Churchill Downs is a traditional dirt track, but a growing number of American race tracks are going to synthetic surfaces, believing they may be safer. Some critics are also suggesting a filly should not have run against 19 colts in such a demanding race, though she beat all but one of them. And there are renewed questions about bloodlines and whether commercial breeders focus on producing horses that are swift but not necessarily sound.

Rick Dutrow: You're always gonna see horses break down on the track no matter what.

Phillips · 05-06-2008, 07:36 AM

Jeez!! Me >>

!!! Ugh!!!

Thank you so millions ... August!!!

horselover61 · 05-06-2008, 09:37 AM

Yea I heard about it and I am so sad about this situation. A friend of mine told me about it the other day. I am not too fond to see something like this happened but heard there was another horse that was put down few years back at the track in front of all the people.

HorseRace · 05-06-2008, 10:49 AM

yea horse in a wild are getting more injury than horse run on a race track , yup it true..
because race track dirt or something is much safer than run on a wild.. ... run on a wild is something no perfect like rock mix dirt... image you walk on rock and road and dirt.. then you fell on it..while you lost balance and broke one of your bone yourself.. yes that could happen..

while run on a race track.. just like you drive on race track ... it goes smooth.. only you have to be careful.. that all.. be wise..

remmy, there are no safe on anyway..any kind, any thing..
same thing with human in sport..

human in sport are not safe at all. ofc..

August · 05-06-2008, 11:52 AM

no problem.

the issue that the guy maneuvered his way around was that it doesn't matter what animals do in the wild or how much safer it is to run on a track, we're using these animals for our entertainment. horses don't have a natural inclination to just run as fast as they can everywhere. if that was so, then why do jockeys have whips?

Freaky Cat · 05-06-2008, 02:43 PM

i dont like horses races and i think they should be STOPPED. why people go pay to watch them get killed just for breaking their ankles or knees.. same as greyhound dogs. they are DUMB sports and I want the sports to be STOPPED! enough. poor animals.

Phillips · 05-06-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Freaky Cat

i dont like horses races and i think they should be STOPPED. why people go pay to watch them get killed just for breaking their ankles or knees.. same as greyhound dogs. they are DUMB sports and I want the sports to be STOPPED! enough. poor animals.

Same thing that make me sick ... you know Mexico with bull and stab it too Ughh!!!

05-05-2008, 10:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
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05-06-2008, 07:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
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05-06-2008, 09:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
horselover61 Neigh!!! Neigh!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,194 Blog Entries: 2	Yea I heard about it and I am so sad about this situation. A friend of mine told me about it the other day. I am not too fond to see something like this happened but heard there was another horse that was put down few years back at the track in front of all the people. __________________ Check out my city!! http://furbyland.myminicity.com/

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Freaky Cat Lost in Space Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ArKaNsAs Posts: 10,154	i dont like horses races and i think they should be STOPPED. why people go pay to watch them get killed just for breaking their ankles or knees.. same as greyhound dogs. they are DUMB sports and I want the sports to be STOPPED! enough. poor animals. __________________ When you miss me just look up to the night sky and remember, I'm like a star; sometimes you can't see me, but I'm always there! Freaky Cat's Blog

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05-06-2008, 10:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
HorseRace Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 879	yea horse in a wild are getting more injury than horse run on a race track , yup it true.. because race track dirt or something is much safer than run on a wild.. ... run on a wild is something no perfect like rock mix dirt... image you walk on rock and road and dirt.. then you fell on it..while you lost balance and broke one of your bone yourself.. yes that could happen.. while run on a race track.. just like you drive on race track ... it goes smooth.. only you have to be careful.. that all.. be wise.. remmy, there are no safe on anyway..any kind, any thing.. same thing with human in sport.. human in sport are not safe at all. ofc..

05-06-2008, 11:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
August Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 930	no problem. the issue that the guy maneuvered his way around was that it doesn't matter what animals do in the wild or how much safer it is to run on a track, we're using these animals for our entertainment. horses don't have a natural inclination to just run as fast as they can everywhere. if that was so, then why do jockeys have whips?