Sleight of Hand - Page 8

Chase · 02-11-2008, 10:40 AM

I hope this isn't one where I have to think silly, because I've spent most of my life trying to do the opposite.

I know there are too many signs in the clues for one word, but you didn't say how many words are in the idiom.

All I can think of is "impish."

Handsome_Smiley · 02-11-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

Bring the sign for "trick" off of your forehead as if signing the idea for intelligent.
Then place the F shape hand on your nose and rotate slightly as in a small animal.

Meaning: To be very intelligent in a mischievous sort of way

Thinking "sly as a fox"

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome_Smiley

Thinking "sly as a fox"

Bingo! Handsome Go it! Go Joe!

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

I hope this isn't one where I have to think silly, because I've spent most of my life trying to do the opposite.

I know there are too many signs in the clues for one word, but you didn't say how many words are in the idiom.

All I can think of is "impish."

Sorry Chase, I've spent most of my life trying not to do serious. Or windows.

Handsome_Smiley · 02-11-2008, 02:25 PM

OK, lets think here!!! UMM, I have to think of a good brain buster!!!!

Sign as follows: Before ... write ... Dry...

Meaning: make an agreement or contract and then the situation changes very quickly

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome_Smiley

OK, lets think here!!! UMM, I have to think of a good brain buster!!!!

Sign as follows: Before ... write ... Dry...

Meaning: make an agreement or contract and then the situation changes very quickly

I know, I know! But I'm going to wait to see if some one else gets it! ( See FF jumping up and down trying not to scream)

Chase · 02-11-2008, 04:24 PM

"Before the ink was dry"?

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

"Before the ink was dry"?

By Jove, Chase, I think you've got it. Now once again. Where's that next soggy idiom?

Chase · 02-11-2008, 05:45 PM

This seven-word idiom means “avoid becoming a victim of mean and negative people.”

The saying is very, very old. Sometimes it’s handy to know how to write it in ancient Latin, “Illegitimus nil carborundum.”

And it’s fun to sign to other deafies so audists don’t know what we’re saying, ha ha ha.

1. The thumb starts under chin in a “ten” sign, then flips outward. In ASL, this sign for a negative contraction may go last in the sentence.

2. Both hands are held wide apart before the torso, palms facing and fingers pointing away, then the wrists pivot so fingers point straight up for “allow.”

3. In ASL, the third word is not signed.

4. Touch the B hand to the center of the forehead (hard for greater emphasis).

5. Fists one on top of the other, twist them in opposite directions. Not for coffee per se, but how it is made.

6. Point to the person you're addressing.

7. The right forefinger curves to point at the floor (or ground).

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

This seven-word idiom means “avoid becoming a victim of mean and negative people.”

The saying is very, very old. Sometimes it’s handy to know how to write it in ancient Latin, “Illegitimus nil carborundum.”

And it’s fun to sign to other deafies so audists don’t know what we’re saying, ha ha ha.

1. The thumb starts under chin in a “ten” sign, then flips outward. In ASL, this sign for a negative contraction may go last in the sentence.

2. Both hands are held wide apart before the torso, palms facing and fingers pointing away, then the wrists pivot so fingers point straight up for “allow.”

3. In ASL, the third word is not signed.

4. Touch the B hand to the center of the forehead (hard for greater emphasis).

5. Fists one on top of the other, twist them in opposite directions. Not for coffee per se, but how it is made.

6. Point to the person you're addressing.

7. The right forefinger curves to point at the floor (or ground).

I'm not sure because I don't remember one like this but is it, "Don't let that knowledge grind you down, or into the ground."?

Chase · 02-11-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

I'm not sure because I don't remember one like this but is it, "Don't let that knowledge grind you down, or into the ground."?

Terrific! You got all but one word. "Knowledge" is not the word. Latin for the word you want is "illigitimus." Say it to yourself.

ASL for that word is the B hand to the upper "male" half of the face. If you put the same sign to lower "female" half of the face, it says "bitch."

Ha ha ha, did you learn more sign than you really wanted today?

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

Terrific! You got all but one word. "Knowledge" is not the word. Latin for the word you want is "illigitimus." Say it to yourself.

ASL for that word is the B hand to the upper "male" half of the face. If you put the same sign to lower "female" half of the face, it says "bitch."

Ha ha ha, did you learn more sign than you really wanted today?

hahaha are we discussing a person of dubious conception? hahaha

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

hahaha are we discussing a person of dubious conception? hahaha

Is it... "Don't let the bastard grind you down?" I've never heard it before but your latin clues assisted my sleuthing. Can we say, "elementary my dear watson"? Sure I knew we could!

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

Is it... "Don't let the bastard grind you down?" I've never heard it before but your latin clues assisted my sleuthing. Can we say, "elementary my dear watson"? Sure I knew we could!

Y hand shape back and forth in front of your body palm down
Next sign twenty but meaning small winged animal
Next sign flat O hand shape in front of mouth repeated tapping motion on mouth with this shape

Meaning: not consuming enough nourishment for health purposes

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 07:58 PM

Now while we are awaiting for some brave soul to try and figure out the English Idiom, I am going to attempt to put all you LURKERS, (you know who you are!) that aren't participating, to SHAME!

Yes I am going to attempt to describe an ASL idiom! It will be like watching a high diver into a cup of water with no safety net! I, fredfam1 am going to venture into the world of Deaf Idioms, bearing in mind, I never even knew there were Deaf people until I got to college! So prepare to watch an amazing, death defying attempt!......

ASL IDIOM: lightly tap third finger of each hand together, palms facing toward each other in a repeated motion, with eyebrows raised and leaning slightly forward.

Meaning: Let's not allow ourselves to loose contact with each other.

Chase · 02-11-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

Y hand shape back and forth in front of your body palm down
Next sign twenty but meaning small winged animal
Next sign flat O hand shape in front of mouth repeated tapping motion on mouth with this shape

Meaning: not consuming enough nourishment for health purposes

I can make out "bird" and "eat," but no sign I understand for "like." However, I'm going to guess "Eat like a bird."

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

I can make out "bird" and "eat," but no sign I understand for "like." However, I'm going to guess "Eat like a bird."

You got it. Did I not describe "same as" correctly? How should it be done?

fredfam1 · 02-11-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

Now while we are awaiting for some brave soul to try and figure out the English Idiom, I am going to attempt to put all you LURKERS, (you know who you are!) that aren't participating, to SHAME!

Yes I am going to attempt to describe an ASL idiom! It will be like watching a high diver into a cup of water with no safety net! I, fredfam1 am going to venture into the world of Deaf Idioms, bearing in mind, I never even knew there were Deaf people until I got to college! So prepare to watch an amazing, death defying attempt!......

ASL IDIOM: lightly tap third finger of each hand together, palms facing toward each other in a repeated motion, with eyebrows raised and leaning slightly forward.

Meaning: Let's not allow ourselves to loose contact with each other.

Common! Somebody must know this idiom! I looked it up on an ASL Idiom of the Week Web site! Somebody give it a try!

Chase · 02-12-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

You got it. Did I not describe "same as" correctly? How should it be done?

I'm certainly no authority on most-correct ASL signs. I learn them from my know-it-all sister, but I do know ASL is similar to English in that the same word may be expressed in different ways.

She tells me "like" is signed by placing all the fingers on your chest and drawing them away to touch the thumb and forefinger together, as in the F hand. It can also mean "same."

The sign for "same" and "same as" she taught me is bringing both index fingers together pointing away from you. It's also "also," "too," and "like."

However I'm sure the sign you learned is also a good one--I just don't know enough ASL signers to have seen it before.

The next two-word idiom means to take everything:

1. The down-turned right hand wipes everything off the upturned left hand.

2. Both hands grasp and pretend to use a broom.

Reba · 02-12-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chase

I'm certainly no authority on most-correct ASL signs. I learn them from my know-it-all sister, but I do know ASL is similar to English in that the same word may be expressed in different ways.

She tells me "like" is signed by placing all the fingers on your chest and drawing them away to touch the thumb and forefinger together, as in the F hand. It can also mean "same."

The sign for "same" and "same as" she taught me is bringing both index fingers together pointing away from you. It's also "also," "too," and "like."

I don't want to "off-topic" into an ASL lesson, and maybe your sign is a regional difference but here's the scoop on "LIKE".

1. placing all the fingers on your chest and drawing them away to touch the thumb and forefinger together, as in the F hand.
That is the sign for the feeling "like", as in "I like that dress" or "I like my teacher." The "8" hand shape or modified open "8" hand shapes are often used for "feelings" signs, such as "EXCITED", "HATE", "FEELING", "SENSITIVE".

2. bringing both index fingers together pointing away from you.
Yes, that means "like" when the meaning is "same as", such as "That car looks like mine" or "She sings like an angel." The sign shows two things matching each other, as the left index finger "matches" the right index finger.

3. using the "Y" hand shape directionally indicating two people or objects are similar; the thumb of the "Y" points to person A, then the pinkie of the "Y" points to person B, back and forth a couple times.
That indicates "me too", sameness or agreement. "You were born in Georgia? Me, too!" "Sue, Ann, you're wearing identical sweaters!" "Those two vases on the shelf look the same to me." "Do you think this is a boring class? Yeah, me, too."

Reba · 02-12-2008, 12:25 AM

clean sweep?

fredfam1 · 02-12-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

Common! Somebody must know this idiom! I looked it up on an ASL Idiom of the Week Web site! Somebody give it a try!

For sake of learning: I am going to give the answer to this ASL idiom and I need some one to tell me if they recognized it and were to shy to say so or if it was unrecognizable. Pretty please?!

It is supposed to say: Let's Keep In Touch as: I'm going to school next fall but let's be sure to keep in touch!

Did any one recognize it? Or did I not give clear enough instructions?

Chase · 02-12-2008, 12:34 AM

Reba,

I can't speak for Cathe, but I don't think you're off-topic a bit.

I play this game to practice my signs (which I have to do several times when writing them out) and to learn new and different signs. Thanks to you, I did just that.

And "clean sweep" is correct. You win all the marbles.

Chase · 02-12-2008, 08:59 AM

Good morning. Here's some sleight of hand to start the day:

This three-word idiom is an answer to an unreasonable request. It means “No way!” or “You’re seriously deluded!”

1. The tips of all fingers and thumb of the right hand are fit into the O-shaped left hand.

2. Point to the person who made the preposterous suggestion.

3. The right index finger touches the forehead, then rapidly closes to the X sign and opens again, repeating several times as it rises above the head.

Reba · 02-12-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chase

... You win all the marbles.

Good, I need them. Some people think I've lost them all.

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Chase Retired on ex-mod pension Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Albany, Oregon Posts: 2,066	I hope this isn't one where I have to think silly, because I've spent most of my life trying to do the opposite. I know there are too many signs in the clues for one word, but you didn't say how many words are in the idiom. All I can think of is "impish."

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Chase Retired on ex-mod pension Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Albany, Oregon Posts: 2,066	"Before the ink was dry"?

02-11-2008, 05:45 PM	#219 (permalink)
Chase Retired on ex-mod pension Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Albany, Oregon Posts: 2,066	This seven-word idiom means “avoid becoming a victim of mean and negative people.” The saying is very, very old. Sometimes it’s handy to know how to write it in ancient Latin, “Illegitimus nil carborundum.” And it’s fun to sign to other deafies so audists don’t know what we’re saying, ha ha ha. 1. The thumb starts under chin in a “ten” sign, then flips outward. In ASL, this sign for a negative contraction may go last in the sentence. 2. Both hands are held wide apart before the torso, palms facing and fingers pointing away, then the wrists pivot so fingers point straight up for “allow.” 3. In ASL, the third word is not signed. 4. Touch the B hand to the center of the forehead (hard for greater emphasis). 5. Fists one on top of the other, twist them in opposite directions. Not for coffee per se, but how it is made. 6. Point to the person you're addressing. 7. The right forefinger curves to point at the floor (or ground).

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Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 15,406	clean sweep?

02-12-2008, 12:34 AM	#233 (permalink)
Chase Retired on ex-mod pension Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Albany, Oregon Posts: 2,066	Reba, I can't speak for Cathe, but I don't think you're off-topic a bit. I play this game to practice my signs (which I have to do several times when writing them out) and to learn new and different signs. Thanks to you, I did just that. And "clean sweep" is correct. You win all the marbles.

02-12-2008, 08:59 AM	#234 (permalink)
Chase Retired on ex-mod pension Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Albany, Oregon Posts: 2,066	Good morning. Here's some sleight of hand to start the day: This three-word idiom is an answer to an unreasonable request. It means “No way!” or “You’re seriously deluded!” 1. The tips of all fingers and thumb of the right hand are fit into the O-shaped left hand. 2. Point to the person who made the preposterous suggestion. 3. The right index finger touches the forehead, then rapidly closes to the X sign and opens again, repeating several times as it rises above the head.