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Old 07-18-2005, 05:49 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, I don't understand your answer to my question. Do you mean churches give money to people?
Yes, who work for the church example, cleaner, gardener, etc.
Church taxpayers paid their earns.
The church also support kindergardens, too. (something like that church theatre, etc.
They paid an interpreter for me once.
The people who visit the church and donate little money voluntarily.


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In my local area there are hundreds of churches.
I just checked the on-line phone book directory, and it shows 1,046 churches and 8 synagogues listed in my area. Some are very large, some medium, some small.
http://yp.bellsouth.com/?mkt=CHSC&he...ch=X&from=TLPP

This is another list but I think it is out-of-date because it uses the old phone area codes.
http://www.marinersguide.com/regions.../churches.html
hundreds Too many

We have only one church in village where we live and 4 churches in local area which it's 3 miles away from village where I live.


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I can understand that sometimes the very old historic church buildings might want public renovation money because they are important historical sites for the community. But in general, people support their own churches because of their beliefs, not for the buildings.
Interesting! Take care of church (buildings) are important to us.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:06 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Yes, who work for the church example, cleaner, gardener, etc.
Church taxpayers paid their earns.
The church also support kindergardens, too. (something like that church theatre, etc.
They paid an interpreter for me once.
The people who visit the church and donate little money voluntarily.
Our church members pay the salaries for the pastors (senior, assistant and youth), admin staff, maintenance staff, full-time music director, pianists, organists, and accountant.

Volunteers serve as deacons, ushers, choir members, orchestra members, interpreters, sound booth, nursery workers, Sunday School teachers, AWANA (kids) leaders, greeters, parking lot patrol, and children's ministry.

Church members pay for taking care of the buildings, utilities, and grounds (landscaping).

Tuition pays for the Christian school director, school office staff, high school principal, elementary school principal, teachers, coaches, and school supplies.


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In my local area there are hundreds of churches.
hundreds Too many

We have only one church in village where we live and 4 churches in local area which it's 3 miles away from village where I live.
How can there be too many? If the people want to establish and support their church, then it is allowed. We can't force people to be stuck with just a few churches. They need to have freedom to start new churches, if they want.


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Interesting! Take care of church (buildings) are important to us.
us.
We believe it is good stewardship to take of our buildings and have a safe, comfortable place to meet. But buildings are not the most important part of a church. They are just buildings. People are the most important part of a church.
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:11 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I forgot to add that members also pay the salaries of the school superintendent and kitchen staff. Also, the members support many missionary families all over the world (including Germany).

Last fiscal year, our church members gave over $1.2 million to support our church. That does not include the missionary money (that is counted separately).

At last night's church business meeting, we voted to pay up to $100,000 to redo part of the church parking lot.
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:34 PM   #94 (permalink)
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I questioned ALOT of hearing and deaf Germans about their experience in Nazi times. ALL what they said to me that they are real happy and feel free from Nazi time.
Interesting. I am now watching the History Channel on TV. The program is about how the Nazis brainwashed the German children to be loyal to Hitler and Nazi beliefs. All the children really wanted to attend the special Nazi schools. They were taught to worship Hitler, not God. It was awful.

During the interviews with the boys (now old men), they told how much they loved Hitler and were very excited to be Nazis.

"Youth of the Third Reich" is the program:
"Permanent indoctrination of an entire nation had to begin with the young. Nazi leaders acted accordingly with the goal of establishing Nazi ideology as the norm for a whole generation. Many former members of Nazi youth organizations now realize that, although they were not aware of it at the time, compassion and all humanitarian attitudes towards life were systematically driven out of them. We show how they were brought to the stage where they would follow the Führer without question."

Ugh! They just showed that the German kids used to go on school field trips to the concentration camps. The camp leaders told the kids about gassing and burning the Jews. They showed them shrunken heads. So the Germans did know what was happening in the camps before and during the war.
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Old 07-18-2005, 06:53 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Interesting. I am now watching the History Channel on TV. The program is about how the Nazis brainwashed the German children to be loyal to Hitler and Nazi beliefs. All the children really wanted to attend the special Nazi schools. They were taught to worship Hitler, not God. It was awful.

During the interviews with the boys (now old men), they told how much they loved Hitler and were very excited to be Nazis.

"Youth of the Third Reich" is the program:
"Permanent indoctrination of an entire nation had to begin with the young. Nazi leaders acted accordingly with the goal of establishing Nazi ideology as the norm for a whole generation. Many former members of Nazi youth organizations now realize that, although they were not aware of it at the time, compassion and all humanitarian attitudes towards life were systematically driven out of them. We show how they were brought to the stage where they would follow the Führer without question."

Ugh! They just showed that the German kids used to go on school field trips to the concentration camps. The camp leaders told the kids about gassing and burning the Jews. They showed them shrunken heads. So the Germans did know what was happening in the camps before and during the war.

Yes... That group was called the Hitlersjunge (Hitler's Youth). Prior to the rise of the Nazi Party, there were many youth groups in Germany. As Nazi became powerful, they closed down all youth groups and mandatoried that the children join the Hitler's Youth group only.

The White Rose group, they all also started in the Hitler's Youth groups. Hans Scholl was so involved with it, until one day when the group went to the Nazi Party Rallies in Nuremburg. After that he was disappointed about the Hitler's Youth and started to think differently after that. He formed with the other boys illegal groups, and eventually the White Rose Group.

In Hitler's Youth schools, they would have some kind of social studies class studying the racial differences between different people, and why the Aryan population is the most superior of all. They had all kinds of charts, pictures, etc... explaining the differences between different races. There are examples of that at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C.

Hitler's Youth children were very scary. They were so brainwashed that they would even betray their own parents to the Nazi party, if their parents complained about Hitler or the Nazi Party. They are trained as spies to overhear conversations and to report anything that sounded like dissent opinions. It's a pretty sad chapter in the German history.

Equally sad was our treatment of the African Americans prior to 1960s, with our KKK groups killing Af. Americans. And to think that eugenics started in the US before it spread to Germany!!! We have our share of evil sciences too.
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Yes, that's right K75.

Nazi consider their people as criminal and then excuted if they disowned Hilter. They were very scared of him in Nazi time. They have to say nice things about Hilter and MUST like him.

Germans must always say "Heil". Nazi consider their people as criminal if they don't say "Heil" and then excuted.

Why they MUST say "Heil" because it's Hilter who made unemployment into 00.00. It's him who made everything for his people in his country.

It's him who made the list of German names which the people are allow to name their babies, not foreign names etc. More lists................. It's no freedom for the Germans in Nazi's time.

The sick babies must be dead because Hilter don't like to see "disabled" in his country.

I remember to watch the true movie about Hilter Youth. The man who had experienced as Hilter Youth and still never forget what he was forced to do what they say and was shock when he saw jews in the train. It got him vomit. I am going to search the website to find out about him then will link here. I would recommend you to buy DVD... It's very good movie.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:14 AM   #97 (permalink)
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It's him who made the list of German names which the people are allow to name their babies, not foreign names etc. More lists................. It's no freedom for the Germans in Nazi's time.

The sick babies must be dead because Hilter don't like to see "disabled" in his country.
Maybe we should split this Nazi discussions here off from Church topic? It's a fascinating subject to discuss...

Yes, Hitler created the Lebensborn program, where he would ask the German women to have a baby each year to give to the country. In order to be able to give this baby to the country, one had to be racially pure, and to have a racially pure father. Sometimes female students who went to school and did not want to have babies yet, were kind of forced by the Party and paired with German soldiers to reproduce and have baby. I think the goal for this was to have a population of racially pure citizens for Hitler's "Thousand Years Reich."

Yes, eugenics were very much the law in Germany as much as it was in America. Germans would castrate people who are suspected to carry the gene of disability and so on. Deaf people were forced to be sterilised, so that they would not have deaf offsprings. So, it is not just the Jewish people, but a wide range of people which were affected by the laws of the Nazi Party.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:51 AM   #98 (permalink)
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Maybe we should split this Nazi discussions here off from Church topic? It's a fascinating subject to discuss...
Yes, we should split this Nazi issue here with other threads or create a new thread.

Like this

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.ph...highlight=Nazi

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.ph...t=Hilter+Youth

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.ph...t=Hilter+Youth

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Create a new thread.

I don't mind to discuss with anyone over Nazi time or any other countries, too.

I am thinking about how to add a new thread because it should not only Nazi history but anywhere in the world, too... ???
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Old 07-23-2005, 10:44 AM   #99 (permalink)
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Here is a breakdown of our sales tax:
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:15 AM   #100 (permalink)
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Here is a breakdown of our sales tax:

Interesting...


I see that every states have different sales taxes in America but why use this word like this "state tax, county tax and trans. tax"?

What's this?
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I see that every states have different sales taxes in America but why use this word like this "state tax, county tax and trans. tax"?

What's this?
"State tax" pays for state-wide expenses, such as SC government.
"County tax" pays for county expenses, such as Charleston County.
"Trans. tax" is a transaction tax, and pays for city expenses, such as North Charleston.

Each state, county, and city has different taxes. Sometimes school districts, and public service districts have additional taxes, depending on where someone lives. The tax money collected for each section (state, county, city), goes directly to that area. That is, county tax money cannot be spent for state or city expenses. They are like separate "pots" of money.
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Paying Taxes in Germany
http://www.doingbusiness.org/Explore...x?economyid=75

Value Added Tax (VAT)
http://www.germany.info/relaunch/bus...n_tax_vat.html

Taxes
http://www.tatsachen-ueber-deutschland.de/718.0.html

World Sales tax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_tax
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