Attn: Addressing some issues that has been going on.

[sallylou]

Enough with the ownership of threads! I can't find any information anywhere that an original poster controls a thread. Anything posted on any thread is not a reflection on the original poster. Most of the time, I don't even notice who started a thread.

Originally Posted by CJB

I don't want to have the CI debate here but you can look some up where I've already stated all my opinions.

You are the one that called parents that choose a CI for their children audists. If you don't want to discuss here then don't bring it up. Peace!

Originally Posted by sallylou

There is never a time when the window for learning English closes. People are capable of acquiring languages through out their lives. It's best to refrain from making a decision out of fear. If you tell parents a falsehood like the child will never learn English, you're adding an element of fear to the decision (which doesn't even exist!).

I am talking about first language (L1). Yes anyone can learn a second language (L2) any time in life. The research I have seen indicates there is a window for learning L1 language and that is very early in life.

Source: Language and Linguistics: Language Acquisition
In fact, childhood may be a critical period for the acquisition of language capabilities. Some scientists claim that if a person does not acquire any language before the teen-aged years, they will never do so in a functional sense.

Source: Early Window for Language Acquisition - Psychiatry
Young children acquire spoken languages much more easily than do older children or adults. Results from a Canadian study underline the importance of early-life exposure . . .

Source: Second Language Acquisition and the Critical Period Hypothesis
In humans, on the basis of extant evidence, it seems that there is a critical period for first language acquisition; those unfortunate persons who are not exposed to any language before puberty seem unable to properly acquire the syntax of their first language later in life.

[sallylou]

Those are theories that have not been proven. Note the word "may" in the 1st quote and the phrase "it seems" in the 3rd quote. Those theories were promoted before scientists even understood neuroplasticity. I won't discuss this any further here since it's not the appropriate thread.

[Maria]

Originally Posted by Cheri

I feel bad for one member whom's thread kept continuing getting locked because some members don't know how to debate on a topic at hand instead they spent their time personal attacking the one who hold opinions different from theirs. I do not mean that you have to agree with them, but just agree to disagree without throwing any personal attacks. How hard can that be?

Here is a small sampling of the things that some had written about a member "a pathological liar" "talking sh** out your *ss" etc. Personal attacks damage the community and nobody likes the abuse. When will this ever stop? Come on guys. Let's have a strong community where we could agree to disagree.

I feel bad, too. It's gettin' tiresome to see some of the ADers kept throwin' any personal attacks on one specific Alldeaf member. I kept myself in distance from those who kept throwin' personal attacks. This is where I drew the line from.

Who ever throws a personal attack on one or more ADers... are NOT above the laws. They are not cops.

[Jiro]

Originally Posted by Maria

I feel bad, too. It's gettin' tiresome to see some of the ADers kept throwin' any personal attacks on one specific Alldeaf member. I kept myself in distance from those who kept throwin' personal attacks. This is where I drew the line from.

Who ever throws a personal attack on one or more ADers... are NOT above the laws. They are not cops.

that specific AD member is not above the law nor a cop as well

step back and think about why that specific AD member is being attacked

[souggy]

The OP's threads always get locked when they become a topic of racism and audism.

Think about that for a second.

[Maria]

Jiro & souggy,

Once OP created his thread, both of you don't need to throw any personal attacks on OP. Both of you need to learn to walk away and leave OP be since you both guys knew it is not goin' to work for both of you. You both can't win the debate. This site is all for education, not personal attacks to throw at. Each person is different. Just accept agree to disagree like Cheri said. Simple as that.

[Jiro]

Originally Posted by Maria

Jiro & souggy,

Once OP created his thread, both of you don't need to throw any personal attacks on OP. Both of you need to learn to walk away and leave OP be since you both guys knew it is not goin' to work for both of you. You both can't win the debate. This site is all for education, not personal attacks to throw at. Each person is different. Just accept agree to disagree like Cheri said. Simple as that.

and that's what I did. Please provide example.

[Mrs Bucket]

Originally Posted by Maria

Jiro & souggy,

Once OP created his thread, both of you don't need to throw any personal attacks on OP. Both of you need to learn to walk away and leave OP be since you both guys knew it is not goin' to work for both of you. You both can't win the debate. This site is all for education, not personal attacks to throw at. Each person is different. Just accept agree to disagree like Cheri said. Simple as that.

Just a friendly reminder to you Maria about OP and threads - OP does not own the thread.

Thread ownership

[Maria]

Originally Posted by Mrs Bucket

Just a friendly reminder to you Maria about OP and threads - OP does not own the thread.

Thread ownership

Oh, wow! Thanks for bringin' this attention up. I just read at "Thread ownership". I guess, it's not important to create one's own thread afterall it was his/her "written" like a book or somethin' ?

[Jiro]

Originally Posted by Maria

Oh, wow! Thanks for bringin' this attention up. I just read at "Thread ownership". I guess, it's not important to create one's own thread afterall it was his/her "written" like a book or somethin' ?

sorry but please explain again

[Maria]

Originally Posted by Jiro

sorry but please explain again

Sorry, dude. Use your concept.

[souggy]

Brain... or noodles.

Not concept.

[Jiro]

Originally Posted by Maria

Sorry, dude. Use your concept.

but I don't understand your post because..... well I don't want to sound mean but you put me in this position. The reason why I asked you to clarify is because your last sentence is not grammatically coherent. I have absolutely no idea what you just said so I'm asking you to clarify it. sorry!

[Maria]

Originally Posted by Jiro

but I don't understand your post because..... well I don't want to sound mean but you put me in this position. The reason why I asked you to clarify is because your last sentence is not grammatically coherent. I have absolutely no idea what you just said so I'm asking you to clarify it. sorry!

Well, I opposed for not ownin' a thread by someone who created it. It is HIS/or HER "writing" to express his or her thoughts/feelings. That's his/or her own heart and mind to share. It flows out of his or her feelings to tell it by writing them. Same goes with the mind (eyes ) to share its views/experiences and all.

I don't understand why any of ADer can't own his/or her thread here.That's like that person is not to be seen to own it.... or like he/or she is no body, except just debatin' and discussin' and all that. Soo, I said it's NOT important to create a thread, if I can't own it just because of my feelings/or thoughts don't mean anythin'. It's very interestin' to see some of things that changed around here ...in THIS AD.

[souggy]

Because it's a forum? You can't regulate who can or who can't post on a public forum.

At least with blogs, you have control over who can comment. Don't like their comments, just delete it. On a forum, you can't do that. Different medium.

Nothing has "changed." What changed is that people developed the mentality of blog ownership, due to the rising popularity of blogs in the last 5 years, and applied it to BBS-based software.

[Jiro]

Originally Posted by Maria

Well, I opposed for not ownin' a thread by someone who created it. It is HIS/or HER "writing" to express his or her thoughts/feelings. That's his/or her own heart and mind to share. It flows out of his or her feelings to tell it by writing them. Same goes with the mind (eyes ) to share its views/experiences and all.

I don't understand why any of ADer can't own his/or her thread here.That's like that person is not to be seen to own it.... or like he/or she is no body, except just debatin' and discussin' and all that. Soo, I said it's NOT important to create a thread, if I can't own it just because of my feelings/or thoughts don't mean anythin'. It's very interestin' to see some of things that changed around here ...in THIS AD.

ah-ha! I understand better now. You see - this is forum for everybody to participate in ANY threads, right? That means OP cannot do anything about the thread he/she created except to request

What you just said in your post - if that is how you feel, then people can go create their own personal blog such as this one, not a thread in here because it's controlled by mods. Few ADers in here like kokonut, souggy, and karissma have their own blogs. They have FULL CONTROL of their content.

so yea do you know what I'm saying?

[shel90]

Do people here support racism and audism? If someone came in here calling all white people dirty rednecks or whatever, that person will definitely get attacked.

[Lighthouse77]

This is the first time I EVER heard of people complaining about ownership.

[Mrs Bucket]

I have to admit that as we near the new era, people become more frivolous in their claims. Is it because we are now being raised by the computer era? Are we forgetting that we are the ones that were raised by the same baby boomers who had no technological gadgets as our younger peers have had?

Please re-think your priorities when you feel the need to own up to a thread. Please own up to your childish antics and own up to your bullying in this forum first.

Thank you.

[Dixie]

What? Ya'll thought your threads were tax deductible??

[Cowpuppy]

The idea of a forum is that it is an open to public discussion board. Which means it can and will in all probability deviate off from the topic. Those are the odds of dealing with the public. Human nature in a crowd. The forum board is not a classroom where an instructor keeps control of the topic. It is an evolving discussion. When people joke around and then everyone starts joking...same thing....but because it is funny and/or positive noone complains....but if it goes off topic in another manner then we get complaints. double standard.
noone owns a thread.....ask around in other groups or people in your life.
When you have discussions....often it gets reverted to pointing out someones past statements, general viewpoints...such as racism....or thier general treatment of others... That is life.
You are comparing 'if someone wrote a book.....this is not a book......write a book and noone can add a few pages to your book. Different here. Apples and oranges.

Originally Posted by Maria

Well, I opposed for not ownin' a thread by someone who created it. It is HIS/or HER "writing" to express his or her thoughts/feelings. That's his/or her own heart and mind to share. It flows out of his or her feelings to tell it by writing them. Same goes with the mind (eyes ) to share its views/experiences and all.

I don't understand why any of ADer can't own his/or her thread here.That's like that person is not to be seen to own it.... or like he/or she is no body, except just debatin' and discussin' and all that. Soo, I said it's NOT important to create a thread, if I can't own it just because of my feelings/or thoughts don't mean anythin'. It's very interestin' to see some of things that changed around here ...in THIS AD.

[shel90]

I agree, Cowpuppy.

[shel90]

Originally Posted by Dixie

What? Ya'll thought your threads were tax deductible??

[posts from hell]

Originally Posted by Lighthouse77

This is the first time I EVER heard of people complaining about ownership.

You were not on the night I made a thread and one ADer got all whiny and left for two days. The thread was sealed, and moved.

[Lighthouse77]

I probably missed it, but read a few about the Anything goes, but I am not sure that's the one you were talking about.

But for any Board, no other boards I've been to complained about ownership. This is the first board I've heard of this. It's really awkward to be complaining about that.

[Mrs Bucket]

Let's put it this way.

Member A is quite disagreeable at times. Member A is well known for touting the fact he/she owns the thread and tells members they are not allowed to do an off-shoot thread relating to the thread he/she created unless they contact him/her first because he/she created the "original" thread.

When a member faked his death, members were discussing the "said- dead" member's news in one of Member A's threads, this thread became lengthy and quite heated but it was not flaming. The forum members had a right to ask questions because the forum members felt very violated as their feelings were quite toyed with by the "said-dead" member.

Member A, all of a sudden, posted to the administration, to please close the thread. The forum members begged for the thread to remain open. The thread was closed and a lot of forum members were very upset and turned off by Member A. A moderator concurred with the forum members as those raw feelings needed to be discussed in the open forum.

A new thread was created to discuss the "said-dead" member's demise and Member A decided to reply in the thread asking for it to be closed because Member A felt it was an off-shoot thread to his "original" thread. A moderator stepped in and put Member A back in his/her place.

You see, this is where Member A started all this controversy of thread ownership.

Member A knows who he/she is.

[Jiro]

ouch. still touchy to this date.... damn... internet's a serious business indeed. the funny thing is... it's forgotten until the wound's re-opened again once the thread needs to be closed.

[Lighthouse77]

Originally Posted by Mrs Bucket

Let's put it this way.

Member A is quite disagreeable at times. Member A is well known for touting the fact he/she owns the thread and tells members they are not allowed to do an off-shoot thread relating to the thread he/she created unless they contact him/her first because he/she created the "original" thread.

When a member faked his death, members were discussing the "said- dead" member's news in one of Member A's threads, this thread became lengthy and quite heated but it was not flaming. The forum members had a right to ask questions because the forum members felt very violated as their feelings were quite toyed with by the "said-dead" member.

Member A, all of a sudden, posted to the administration, to please close the thread. The forum members begged for the thread to remain open. The thread was closed and a lot of forum members were very upset and turned off by Member A. A moderator concurred with the forum members as those raw feelings needed to be discussed in the open forum.

A new thread was created to discuss the "said-dead" member's demise and Member A decided to reply in the thread asking for it to be closed because Member A felt it was an off-shoot thread to his "original" thread. A moderator stepped in and put Member A back in his/her place.

You see, this is where Member A started all this controversy of thread ownership.

Member A knows who he/she is.

I understand. Anyone should be allowed to start a new thread. and keep it open. But for personal matters, it is common in all boards they will close a thread because the OP asked them to. They will ask them to close it because they regret starting it in the first place or they found their answer and didn't want it to turn into a heated debate.. they didn't start it to start a debate but to find an answer for herself)

Sometimes if I start a thread to make a fun game, I will make rules for that thread to the very beginning. If people didn't listen to that rules and did whatever they wanted to do, it wouldn't be fun and I lost my purpose of starting that thread in the first place. So in a way, if it not working out, I probably will ask the members to go by the rules or just close the thread. BUT I would also lost my purpose of that thread if I kept adding new rules as I go along (unless it is a good reason) and it isn't really fair for the other posters. And that would be another reason to close my thread.