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Old 05-15-2009, 08:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is there a way we can clean up some of the titles on the forum because they are grammatically incorrect.

Frankly, it makes the forum look...um...dumb.

I can't help it if I'm an English teacher. *Ducks!*
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is there a way we can clean up some of the titles on the forum because they are grammatically incorrect.

Frankly, it makes the forum look...um...dumb.

I can't help it if I'm an English teacher. *Ducks!*
You said it!! And I agree.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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None of us are here for a grade... I have seen many forums. Worst off with grammar than AD.

Let people be who they are.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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She said it.. not me.

I'd have to agree with Bablyblue by jillio.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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None of us are here for a grade... I have seen many forums. Worst off with grammar than AD.

Let people be who they are.
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Agreed!
I do too.. Since this is a D/deaf forum.

I think we are doing pretty damn good with grammar.


This type of attitude, with the grammar is what keeps a lot of "Full Fledged" ASL users out of AD.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I do too.. Since this is a D/deaf forum.

I think we are doing pretty damn good with grammar.


This type of attitude, with the grammar is what keeps a lot of "Full Fledged" ASL users out of AD.

They tend to use vlogs

Also, we have people from different countries where English may not even be their 1st or 2nd language.
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They tend to use vlogs

Also, we have people from different countries where English may not even be their 1st or 2nd language.

Yup.
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And how will they learn if they are allowed to keep making the same mistakes over and over?

Standards, people. Standards.
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And how will they learn if they are allowed to keep making the same mistakes over and over?

Standards, people. Standards.
Observation if interested? I have gotten much better at it since I joined here and started writing.
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This is why I like to write OMG!wtfbbqforeverlongpoststhatneverseemtoendandtak eupthefullpagesothatyoucan'treadwhatIwroteanditmak esmelooksupersmart.

Just kidding. At least I try to use proper formatting.

PS. Typing a lot on a forum improves your english overall if you bother to care for doing so. I'm honest on that!
But if you write one word or maybe less than the average one sentence post responses, I think it does no good until you utilize the rest of what you learned.
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Old 05-18-2009, 09:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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And how will they learn if they are allowed to keep making the same mistakes over and over?

Standards, people. Standards.
Yeah, Standards are the way to go if one wants to learn how to use it correctly. I can understand that some of the time it can be a little bit bothersome when there are some grammatical errors out there.

But, In all out of this, I think that's what makes us different even though we just can't help it one way or another.

Just because it may seem to be dumb one way or another doesn't mean that we are.
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i think it is awesome that people feel comfortable to post regardless of their english skills. i am not 100% confident of my english and it took me a while before i felt comfortable to post. its nice to see supportive and accepting people in here.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:22 PM   #14 (permalink)
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For me its getting used to the keyboard, a lot of times I lack words in between and makes no sense lol
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Well they created a thread and ask for it, it's their thread. Sometimes they look at me as stupid even though I feel like my thread titles are correct for me.. I am not really bothered by those who created the titles, as long as I was interested, I go.
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Is there a way we can clean up some of the titles on the forum because they are grammatically incorrect.

Frankly, it makes the forum look...um...dumb.

I can't help it if I'm an English teacher. *Ducks!*
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Well, if you really think that some threads that need to be removed. The only way is for you to ask Alex whether he is willing to remove them, but it would take many hours or days for him to clean up his archives.

It is up to you to help or improve their grammar. A big problem is the logical argument that someone wrote on their post seems ridiculous which is very unfortunate, but let them to write their posts. We all do have that problem sometimes. Who cares!

English grammar is the most complicated to write on a paper that we have to deal in our society. Oh, it's illogical. Perhaps, it is just a mystery to create a form of grammar.

I really hate to read a very long story on a post that would take me to finish it for a century. I could not imagine that some people could read the long one. Imagine that you read the whole story, and then you look at the clock that might be surprised you that it passed five hours. You wasted five hours in your time. Life is really short no matter how young you are. I am sure that you know what I mean.

I could not imagine that naisho has the most interesting to write on his posts. I wouldn't able to catch up to read his long posts. Sorry! He is not the only one... He should get his Nobel Prize award. Smile.
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:11 AM   #17 (permalink)
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nah..let it be,,after all they re human,,,many deafies are under-educated so they re here for the company and try to make the best of it,,maybe they are better in person than their grammar,,, ever hear of the expression,,,,don t judge a book by its cover,,
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I say leave it alone. I recently became a member of another forum. (Motorcycle) I was surprised to see all the mistakes spelling and grammar wise. This is not worse but in some ways actually better than others that I have been reading.
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:53 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I say leave it alone. I recently became a member of another forum. (Motorcycle) I was surprised to see all the mistakes spelling and grammar wise. This is not worse but in some ways actually better than others that I have been reading.
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but you don't know if they're all hearing
True I don't but I do "assume" most of them if not all are hearing.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:19 AM   #21 (permalink)
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i do know what you mean. i am a person who was raised in a very grammaticly correct home. it was very important to my family to sound "intelligent." i don't think that grammar is the mark of intelligence, because it is not. i could see how as an english teacher that this would be very bothersome indeed. ha but don't let it drive you too crazy. i read a lot, so i am pretty good with words. i am big into literature. could it be that just like in the hearing world, the more people read, the more versed they are with grammar? just a thought. also i do know that some of the people on here are not as fluent in english because it is not their first language. i am probably making you crazy right now to, what with my lack of capitalization. haha. not when i write in handwriting, but when i type i just let capitalization go out the window. also i am probably very often inserting commas in a technically inaproppriate. ha. i insert them where i pause in my speech. i type like how i talk, a pause represented by inserting commas, for emphasis, or for a slight in change of subject or concept within the sentance. i am aware that is is technically wrong... but i do it anyway because i feel it is more accurate and more like humans communicate, be it oral language or sign language but enough about me and my "inapropriate" use of commas...
i think that while it could be viewed as important to be grammaticly correct, to be seen as intelligent, i think this is a false interpration... i think that grammar is important only if we make it important but then by those standards it is just a personal preferance by an individual, of what they feel the appropriate way to communicate is. ya know what i mean? i would say the importance of communication is to be understood... not about how we phrase things. so if someone is not speaking 100% correctly but i can still understand the content of the message that they are trying to convey then there is no real problem. the wieght of a persons character is measured by the content of their soul. there are many of these societaly correct concepts that we view as so important that i feel will only serve to alienate and distance ourselves form each each other and will not bring us to coexisting in unity.
i am just another you, and you are just another me... so that being said, does it really matter if in the grand scheme of things if we mix up a few little words here and there? probably not.
but i also agree with you that it is nice for people to speak and write articulately. ha so basicly i have just agreed with you and disagreed with you all in the same post. haha
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lol, yes i can see the point, its a round-about way to avoid audism, that is showing status with superiority of the hearing -perfectionised- English. Also which a slant of rebellion but with a mindful reckoning that its all about the importance of being understood, put differently having correct structure of sentence isnt about phrase correction it should/would be held the idea that to ensure we are understood. Understanding is different from uppity. nice explanation zoomzipboom. About capitalisation, i tend to use it when i want to emphasise, this sometimes means SHOUTING lol or yelling or screaming or just getting indeed just making sure the reader on the other side see the main crux of the argument. see you fairly new here, welcome to AD

ah, just realised you are hearing (zoomzipboom), but that's ok, and my recent points is still relevant to the 'standards' hmmm, but honesty I do feel more comfortable reading materials with proper grammars but again, it does not mean I will insist on 100% correction, like I do consider the contents is as or more important than its lay out. on the other hand again, its nice to be able to provide fresh insights with clarity, becoming something of a rarity these days, even with hearing people -their standards of grammar is slipping too.
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hearing, yes i am. i also, prefer to read grammaticly correct writting when it comes to literature, but it doesn't bother me much on forums... well it does bother me with hearing people because they can hear the correct way to phrase things and partly out of laziness they just don't... ha i don't look down on them or anything like that i just think, "why do you insist on talking like that?"
it is a strange sense of pride for them i think. like "hey. i am going to talk this way because i am above all that fancy shmancy grammar cuz i got redneck pride. them other high sociecty types can talk proper but you wouldn't never catch me talking like that." hee hee.
i am very much kidding. people can speak how they want but pride in ones own ignorance is just silly. ignorance in the sense of "to ignore." many hearing people ignore the set standards of the english language as some strange form of rebellion that they take pride in by playing that they don't know any better when often times they do. it is not cool to pretend to be less smart than you are. intelligence is beautiful.
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Using correct grammar and punctuation is a compulsion of mine, but I don't see any reason to inflict that on anyone else. If we had grammar police here, it would make some people feel uncomfortable. I'm on other forums where that happens. I'd rather be inclusive than technically correct.
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hearing, yes i am. i also, prefer to read grammaticly correct writting when it comes to literature, but it doesn't bother me much on forums... well it does bother me with hearing people because they can hear the correct way to phrase things and partly out of laziness they just don't... ha i don't look down on them or anything like that i just think, "why do you insist on talking like that?"
it is a strange sense of pride for them i think. like "hey. i am going to talk this way because i am above all that fancy shmancy grammar cuz i got redneck pride. them other high sociecty types can talk proper but you wouldn't never catch me talking like that." hee hee.
i am very much kidding. people can speak how they want but pride in ones own ignorance is just silly. ignorance in the sense of "to ignore." many hearing people ignore the set standards of the english language as some strange form of rebellion that they take pride in by playing that they don't know any better when often times they do. it is not cool to pretend to be less smart than you are. intelligence is beautiful.
I know the feeling.

When it comes to e-mails and online messages like blogs, forums, social networking sites, etc... I'm picky about my grammar and spelling (99% of the time). I might intentionally misspell a few words like "kewl", "OMG", "WTF", "wazzup", etc... but overall, I'm picky.

The only time I don't really care is when I'm on AIM. The only time I'm on AIM is when I'm on my Sidekick and I don't have time to sit there making sure everything I typed is perfect while the other person sits there waiting for my response.
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I'm a bit annoyed by it as well but we're not at school, right? Laugh Out Loud
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Webexplorer, it took me only a half a century to read your post above, lol!

DBG, I know what you mean as I have made similar offers a couple of times in the past on this very board and I got an earful and have since grown accustomed to what you're seeing here now. Without getting into it, I have seen, weighed, etc, the wisdom of letting it lie......Good to see ya, btw.
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I could not imagine that naisho has the most interesting to write on his posts. I wouldn't able to catch up to read his long posts. Sorry! He is not the only one... He should get his Nobel Prize award. Smile.
hey, could you lead me to this post you mentioned? what was the title or thread?
I'm interested to read it, thanks
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