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Unread 02-12-2008, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Closing the thread

FAIR SYSTEM: Moderator should set-up the voting system to close or not to close the thread, because most of us never understand why there are some threads that are closed without any serious problem. Forum are for everyone to express their opinions.
One little question: Did the moderator set-up their own session to decide whether the thread should be locked/closed or not?
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Unread 02-12-2008, 09:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Unread 02-12-2008, 10:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Moderators have their reasons for locking the thread, to prevent a flame war, when a thread lead to flame wars or when a thread is offensive.

Moderators prefer peace.
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Well, I'm glad that the thread was closed because I don't think it is fair to only blame the Religious section when it is happening everywhere on this forum and how we are quick to blame others for things that go wrong instead of taking responsiblity for our own actions in this as well too.

I came on this forum to have a peaceful discussions rather than arguing back and fourth.
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Unread 02-12-2008, 10:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, I'm glad that the thread was closed because I don't think it is fair to only blame the Religious section when it is happening everywhere on this forum and how we are quick to blame others for things that go wrong instead of taking responsiblity for our own actions in this as well too.

I came on this forum to have a peaceful discussions rather than arguing back and fourth.
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What about this one? No flame war and offensed to someone, and it's a funny thread.

http://www.alldeaf.com/sports-fitnes...nicaragua.html
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Unread 02-12-2008, 10:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What about this one? No flame war and offensed to someone, and it's a funny thread.

http://www.alldeaf.com/sports-fitnes...nicaragua.html
I see that a moderator had edited some posts on first page, maybe someone reported that thread to the moderators. You just never know.

It wasn't cool what authentic did to MaxUFC. It was an offended post.
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I don't want to argue either, but just wanted to have the equal opportunity. I feel that most of moderators locked the thread, because they "feel" that it is overrated, or may cause the flame war. I don't see any flame war, we were just expressing our thoughts, and post some funny pictures. I know it is not easy to tell the person's mood through the virtual world. Sometimes I talk nicely, but to others think I am very furious, that is big misunderstanding unless they ask.
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I see that a moderator had edited some posts on first page, maybe someone reported that thread to the moderators. You just never know.

It wasn't cool what authentic did to MaxUFC. It was an offended post.
If he tell me to stop, and I will.
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I agreed with OP and would like to know how do moderators run things in here.
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If he tell me to stop, and I will.
I dont think he is offended at all. Nope whatsoever.
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I am glad that I am not alone.

Is my thread insult, offensive, bash?

God vs. Religion


They could remove two posts of the whole thread instead of lock the thread without say something like stop or whatever. I can understand if it´s flaming war, insult, war but my thread?

I feel it´s unfair.




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AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Closing the thread

I only see one bash and offesnive and then quickly forgive and move on...


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I am glad that I am not alone.

Is my thread insult, offensive, bash?

God vs. Religion


They could remove two posts of the whole thread instead of lock the thread without say something like stop or whatever. I can understand if it´s flaming war, insult, war but my thread?

I feel it´s unfair.




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FAIR SYSTEM: Moderator should set-up the voting system to close or not to close the thread, because most of us never understand why there are some threads that are closed without any serious problem. Forum are for everyone to express their opinions.
One little question: Did the moderator set-up their own session to decide whether the thread should be locked/closed or not?
I think set the poll thread is good idea to get ADers´ feedback, POV, feeling, etc but I can understand and support Admin´s rules for lock with good reason like heat debate with bash, insult, disrespectful, etc.
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I don't think it is a good idea. I can see alot of problems coming from having "votes." This is not a democracy. It is owned by Alex and he has several Moderators that are there to enforce the rules set up by Alex.
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I'm sorry to say this but I disagree, it's like telling a moderator how to do their job. that doesn't sound right to me.
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I don't think it is a good idea. I can see alot of problems coming from having "votes." This is not a democracy. It is owned by Alex and he has several Moderators that are there to enforce the rules set up by Alex.
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I'm sorry to say this but I disagree, it's like telling a moderator how to do their job. that doesn't sound right to me.
Since the thread created under "Forum Feedback & Suggestions" Section doesn't mean that we have the right to tell Admin. & moderator how to do their job but offer our suggestion, tips, feedback, share POV etc to help Admin.'s decision.

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Since the thread created under "Forum Feedback & Suggestions" Section doesn't mean that we have the right to tell Admin. & moderator how to do their job but offer our suggestion, tips, feedback, share POV etc to help Admin.'s decision.


Why are you quoting our posts? we were speaking HOW we feel.


And I'm not gonna to be part of this when it comes to moderators' duties.
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Why are you quoting our posts? we were speaking HOW we feel.


And I'm not gonna to be part of this when it comes to moderators' duties.
Yes, I have no problem to listen your feeling on this thread. I am not saying to against you for this but share the offer to my POV with you both what I thought about this thread without against and disagree.

I can understand and have no problem when anyone offer their different POV how they feeling. I do not against or disagree them either but we state our POV to help Alex's decision. I see no problem for that.
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Unfair???

My thread was locked too do you see me coming on here complaining about it? I would just private messaged one of the moderators who locked my thread and asked for a clean-up. One of my thread Final Judgment was thrown in the trash because some members made my thread go down hill, do you see me creating a thread complaining about it?


Another thread just recently closed because one member got upset at another member.

If members think they are so perfect and never broke a rule on AD, then you guys are so full of it, You bashed people too, Some of you even made a thread to be locked, and you think it's soo unfair the moderators locked a thread that you liked or your own thread, consider yourself lucky that you did not get banned for other threads that went down hill on your own purpose.

Members can be much a whiner. I'm sorry to say, they complain about everything. It's very simple, You want your own thread open then private messsage a moderator. Use your brains.
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I dont think he is offended at all. Nope whatsoever.
Are you so sure about that? He made fun of me
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Unfair???

My thread was locked too do you see me coming on here complaining about it? I would just private messaged one of the moderators who locked my thread and asked for a clean-up. One of my thread Final Judgment was thrown in the trash because some members made my thread go down hill, do you see me creating a thread complaining about it?
Moderator locked your 1st thread "Final Judgment" accord your wish. This is a difference.

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Another thread just recently closed because one member got upset at another member.

If members think they are so perfect and never broke a rule on AD, then you guys are so full of it, You bashed people too, Some of you even made a thread to be locked, and you think it's soo unfair the moderators locked a thread that you liked or your own thread, consider yourself lucky that you did not get banned for other threads that went down hill on your own purpose.

Members can be much a whiner. I'm sorry to say, they complain about everything. It's very simple, You want your own thread open then private messsage a moderator. Use your brains.
I am sorry how you feeling like this when you don't like what you see but ADers have the right to share their venting how they feeling since the thread creator create his/her thread under Forum Feedback & Suggestion Section.
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Are you so sure about that? He made fun of me
Yes, I have seen it which is unacceptance and told them to stop in my thread. After that I received apology response from ADer and move on.
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Moderator locked your 1st thread "Final Judgment" accord your wish. This is a difference.
I did not asked to remove it out of the public eye, I was hoping for a clean-up, but it didn't happen that way, so I did not complain about it, many good posts were on that thread was worth reading, now it's gone. Oh well, so I created another thread. No biggie.
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I did not asked to remove it out of the public eye, I was hoping for a clean-up, but it didn't happen that way, so I did not complain about it, many good posts were on that thread was worth reading, now it's gone. Oh well, so I created another thread. No biggie.
I saw one of your post in your thread to ask moderator to lock your thread.
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I saw one of your post in your thread to ask moderator to lock your thread.
Where am I denying that? I said but but but but, I did not asked for it to be removed out of the public eyes.
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Where am I denying that? I said but but but but, I did not asked for it to be removed out of the public eyes.
Yes I know because your 1st thread was too far and mess which is an unacceptance, that's why.

I can understand and support it.


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As a mod, I can say several threads were only locked to be cleaned up. Our jobs as mods is to determine what a poster may or may not mean when they make a post.

Some threads such as the sports one started out as a very informative and useful thread, then it went so far off topic and despite best efforts to clean it up and keep it on topic the members kept posting pictures and insults unrelated to the thread. There was even a challenge made in that thread to see how long it took to get the thread closed. This is an unecessary waste of Alldeaf's bandwidth. The creator of that thread even agreed to try to get locked.

As for other threads getting locked, sometimes they are locked to allow for a cool down period. Other times they are locked due to members taking posts too seriously and then it turns into a accusation thread of he did she did.

Our jobs are very simple in a lot of ways. It all means one thing KEEP THE PEACE in Alldeaf. We are no different than the posters, we are people with feelings and emotions. We are not robots and machines. We try our best to make the best judgements possible. But we also read these threads and try our best to see situations from all sides.

I find it funny at times how the members can complain about this or that. And ask why nothing was done about this person or that person, when they themselves are guilty of the same actions.

I do not believe a voting system would be a good system. The reason is because too many people like to see the arguing and juicy gossip that may come out in a flame thread or bashing thread. That is why the mods are here. We are here to make sure none of this happens.

You complain that we do this or that, but yet you also complain that you can't find a mod around when you need one. So really, I ask you, would you prefer we did our jobs to the best of our abilities, or would you prefer we were never here and let Alldeaf go down into a junk forum?

As for discussing on what to do here in Alldeaf, sometimes we do get together and say hey what do you think? Be glad that we do do this, because it allows for a different perspective on a thread, and alot of times, keeps that thread from being closed. We work as a team and that is what moderating all deaf and being on the MOD TEAM is all about.

It may sometimes, take us a little longer than you wish to get threads reopened, but you have to remember we are people too, with jobs,kids, lives outside of AD, social lives, and sickness.

There have been times when I spent myself, 12+ hours moderating AD. Would you spend that many hours reading threads and making judgement calls on how best to handle a thread?

We do try our best not to have to lock a thread. We sometimes sit there and delete up to 20 posts to clean a thread up, so it may be debated on some more. Do you know how time consuming that is for us?

But we dont mind, we do it out of love for Alldeaf and our members here.

When you complain about the Mod Teams actions, you are in effect putting down OUR efforts at providing you a peaceful, fun and entertaining atmosphere.

All in all, I would like to say that I personally think that the mod team does the best job that they can, and I appreciate them being there not only for me as another mod but also for me as a member of Alldeaf.

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I would just private messaged one of the moderators who locked my thread and asked for a clean-up.

I forget to edit to add something... so I quote part of your post one more.

Yes, I did straight way but no response.
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