New section or sub-section for writing help?

**Reba** · 11-06-2007, 02:14 PM

Some posters in another thread suggested that it might be beneficial to start a new section (or sub-section) for posters seeking help with English grammar and writing. It would NOT be a place to criticize the English grammar of other posters. It would be a positive place for posters to request tutorial help, proofreading, or writing suggestions. It could also be a source for discussing tricky English euphemisms and idioms, or offering tips for learning some of the grammar and spelling "rules".

What do you think?

**highlands** · 11-06-2007, 02:26 PM

It would be helpful

Hwy99 · 11-06-2007, 02:37 PM

Would be helpful, but I wondering how many people would go there?

**highlands** · 11-06-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Would be helpful, but I wondering how many people would go there?

I would go cuz I am not native English reader/writer. It is my foreign language and it would be good to improve my English

Alex , can you hear me ?

Kaitin · 11-06-2007, 02:52 PM

I would read this often.

I hope AD adds this.

Hwy99 · 11-07-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by highlands

I would go cuz I am not native English reader/writer. It is my foreign language and it would be good to improve my English

Ohh I forgot this website have people from other countries, oops

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-07-2007, 04:17 AM

Yes I find those suggestion, you made here is good, Reba.

**Reba** · 11-07-2007, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes I find those suggestion, you made here is good, Reba.

Thanks but I can't take all the credit. Other ADers thought of it first. I just created the thread.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-07-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Thanks but I can't take all the credit. Other ADers thought of it first. I just created the thread.

It's my post what I personally think of, not for ADers since you ask us "What do you think?" like every ADers make their own posts what they personally thought of, not for us. We are adults and make our decision either we can agree or not to any suggestion threads.

**Reba** · 11-07-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

It's my post what I personally think of, not for ADers since you ask us "What do you think?" like every ADers make their own posts what they personally thought of, not for us. We are adults and make our decision either we can agree or not to any suggestion threads.

Huh?

**shel90** · 11-07-2007, 07:35 PM

I would love something like that. It would be a positive way to help each other.

**Chase** · 11-09-2007, 12:31 PM

A place to ask questions about English spelling, punctuation, and grammar is a great idea, even if it only gets used every once in a while.

I have several dictionaries and thesauri ("thesauruses" is also accepted by Webster if you don't like to use the Greek plual, ha ha ha) in my computer and three grammar books for U.S. publications nearby, but I still like to get opinions from other writers and English whizzes.

We may have a few disagreements, but that's nothing new. For the most part, discussions -- even empassioned ones -- are nearly always educational.

I hope our moderators look down on us and grant our prayers.

**KarissaMann05** · 11-10-2007, 08:08 PM

yeah, i really like that idea.

why not?

**KarissaMann05** · 11-24-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mann_K05

yeah, i really like that idea.

why not?

Reba, I think a new section or sub-section should add to Creative Writing section. Because it is a relation to this subject, it's more make sense to me.

Mm? Just thought.

Kaitin · 11-25-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mann_K05

Reba, I think a new section or sub-section should add to Creative Writing section. Because it is a relation to this subject, it's more make sense to me.

Mm? Just thought.

The sub-section to Creative Writing is a great idea I think!

Do mods ever respond or is this thread like a wish list to Santa?

***VamPyroX*** · 11-26-2007, 01:23 AM

Well, a sub-section isn't necessarily needed.

You could post your story or writing in the "Creative Writing" section and ask people for feedback on grammar, spelling, criticism, etc...

If you just want to show off your story without expecting criticism immediately, you can just post the story and leave it up to open discussion by anyone.

**Chase** · 11-26-2007, 08:12 AM

I think a section to ask questions about spelling, punctuation, and grammar is an excellent idea.

Creative writing isn't the only area where someone might have questions or concerns.

However, the heading "new section or sub-section" will almost certainly doom it failure. It should be headed, "Writing Q & A" or "Ask the English experts" or "Writing helps" -- some title telling members what the section is about.

Kaitin · 11-26-2007, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Well, a sub-section isn't necessarily needed.

You could post your story or writing in the "Creative Writing" section and ask people for feedback on grammar, spelling, criticism, etc...

If you just want to show off your story without expecting criticism immediately, you can just post the story and leave it up to open discussion by anyone.

But what if you have a question without a story or writing - just "is this correct" or "what is the word" or "how do you say _______"? Do these belong in Creative Writing section?

**KarissaMann05** · 11-26-2007, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaitin

But what if you have a question without a story or writing - just "is this correct" or "what is the word" or "how do you say _______"? Do these belong in Creative Writing section?

Yeah, that's what I think too. Mmm..

Roadrunner · 11-26-2007, 12:13 PM

Perhaps the next step is to have a poll...to see how many are willing to have such a heading or sub-heading added to AD.

~RR

**Chase** · 11-26-2007, 12:29 PM

I agree with Roadrunner. If I knew how to poll, I would. I hope someone will, and I hope other members will approve a small section where a curious minority may ask for writing helps.

**Angel** · 11-26-2007, 01:03 PM

I honestly don't know how I feel about this, because of what happened in a couple of threads where some members criticism others inculde myself because of our English grammar and writing skills, and part of me feels like I'm not good enough or smart enough like the rest of you folks...

Tousi · 11-26-2007, 01:33 PM

Ahhh, Angel, didn't you know that "good" English or "lousy" English is NOT a basis for intelligence?

**Reba** · 11-26-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel

I honestly don't know how I feel about this, because of what happened in a couple of threads where some members criticism others inculde myself because of our English grammar and writing skills, and part of me feels like I'm not good enough or smart enough like the rest of you folks...

Good grammar is not about "smarts"; it's about training. Some people didn't get adequate training during their formative years, so they don't have the grammar skills that they desire.

No one is expert at everything. How many times do we see posts about, "How do I sign this in ASL?" How many times do we see posts about, "How do I fix this computer problem?" We all need help at times.

The important point is, a writing "helps" thread should be totally voluntary. No one should give a grammar lesson outside of a request by the writer. If you don't ask for help, we should zip our lips. If you do ask for help, we should do it in a positive way.

Angel, if anyone criticizes your writing skills, challenge them to compete with your BBQ cooking skills. Then we'll see who wins!

See, everyone has strengths and weaknesses.

Kaitin · 11-26-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel

I honestly don't know how I feel about this, because of what happened in a couple of threads where some members criticism others inculde myself because of our English grammar and writing skills, and part of me feels like I'm not good enough or smart enough like the rest of you folks...

Angel: I understand 100%. Before I read AD and not post because so many threads about people's bad grammar. Then I post but was SO concerned about writing - I used Word grammar/spell check and my hearing roommate to read so no mistakes. The posts criticizing people's writing made me sick - like a giant bad English class and not a community to me and I think I am not good enough also. Now all is too much work and worry for me. I give up and be lazy

People are rude to correct grammar and spelling without the writer asked for help I think. But the new section or sub-section is for people to ask for help and not anyone just criticizing (or I hope). Probably it needs very careful moderator. But maybe one positive is people could say in other parts of AD about criticizing posts "if you want to help with grammar or spelling, help with posts in the Grammar/Spelling Section (or whatever the name) and not just criticize everywhere". I hope so.

**Angel** · 11-26-2007, 07:30 PM

LOL, Thank you Reba and Tousi, I feel so much better now, and Thanks Kaitin for understanding how I feel and I agree with what you stated in your post...

I'm willing to give this sub-forum a try,

**Cheri** · 11-26-2007, 07:41 PM

I'll all to it as long there's no criticizes and that Fuzzy stays out of that sub-forum. (I'm sorry to say this but there were too many times I've asked her to stop criticizing my and others grammar).

Tousi · 11-26-2007, 07:51 PM

Did she get banned again? I haven't seen here here for a while...

Hwy99 · 11-26-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Did she get banned again? I haven't seen here here for a while...

No.

http://www.alldeaf.com/members/audiofuzzy.html

**KarissaMann05** · 11-26-2007, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaitin

Angel: I understand 100%. Before I read AD and not post because so many threads about people's bad grammar. Then I post but was SO concerned about writing - I used Word grammar/spell check and my hearing roommate to read so no mistakes. The posts criticizing people's writing made me sick - like a giant bad English class and not a community to me and I think I am not good enough also. Now all is too much work and worry for me. I give up and be lazy

People are rude to correct grammar and spelling without the writer asked for help I think. But the new section or sub-section is for people to ask for help and not anyone just criticizing (or I hope). Probably it needs very careful moderator. But maybe one positive is people could say in other parts of AD about criticizing posts "if you want to help with grammar or spelling, help with posts in the Grammar/Spelling Section (or whatever the name) and not just criticize everywhere". I hope so.

HEH! Good post by then.

I dont think of that. aha

11-06-2007, 02:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
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11-06-2007, 02:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
highlands happily engaged Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the heart of my love Posts: 4,306	It would be helpful

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Hwy99 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A town in middle of the rolling hills Posts: 6,141	Would be helpful, but I wondering how many people would go there?

11-06-2007, 02:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kaitin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 845 Blog Entries: 23	I would read this often. I hope AD adds this.

11-09-2007, 12:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chase Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,320	A place to ask questions about English spelling, punctuation, and grammar is a great idea, even if it only gets used every once in a while. I have several dictionaries and thesauri ("thesauruses" is also accepted by Webster if you don't like to use the Greek plual, ha ha ha) in my computer and three grammar books for U.S. publications nearby, but I still like to get opinions from other writers and English whizzes. We may have a few disagreements, but that's nothing new. For the most part, discussions -- even empassioned ones -- are nearly always educational. I hope our moderators look down on us and grant our prayers.

11-26-2007, 08:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
Chase Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,320	I think a section to ask questions about spelling, punctuation, and grammar is an excellent idea. Creative writing isn't the only area where someone might have questions or concerns. However, the heading "new section or sub-section" will almost certainly doom it failure. It should be headed, "Writing Q & A" or "Ask the English experts" or "Writing helps" -- some title telling members what the section is about.

11-26-2007, 12:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
Roadrunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NY Posts: 7,089	Perhaps the next step is to have a poll...to see how many are willing to have such a heading or sub-heading added to AD. ~RR __________________ "Nothing is ever lost by courtesy. It is the cheapest of pleasures, costs nothing, and conveys much." - Erastus Wiman

11-26-2007, 12:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
Chase Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,320	I agree with Roadrunner. If I knew how to poll, I would. I hope someone will, and I hope other members will approve a small section where a curious minority may ask for writing helps.

11-26-2007, 01:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
Angel ♥"Concrete Angel"♥ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19,089	I honestly don't know how I feel about this, because of what happened in a couple of threads where some members criticism others inculde myself because of our English grammar and writing skills, and part of me feels like I'm not good enough or smart enough like the rest of you folks... __________________ "When we do the best we can, we never know what miracle is brought in our life, OR in the life of another." ~ Helen Keller

11-26-2007, 01:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	Ahhh, Angel, didn't you know that "good" English or "lousy" English is NOT a basis for intelligence?

11-26-2007, 07:30 PM	#26 (permalink)
Angel ♥"Concrete Angel"♥ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19,089	LOL, Thank you Reba and Tousi, I feel so much better now, and Thanks Kaitin for understanding how I feel and I agree with what you stated in your post... I'm willing to give this sub-forum a try, __________________ "When we do the best we can, we never know what miracle is brought in our life, OR in the life of another." ~ Helen Keller

11-26-2007, 07:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
Cheri Prayers for my dad. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 22,819	I'll all to it as long there's no criticizes and that Fuzzy stays out of that sub-forum. (I'm sorry to say this but there were too many times I've asked her to stop criticizing my and others grammar). __________________ Avoid being a victim of a stroke, a stroke can happen to anyone at anytime. You will never know how devastating this could be until you had live through it. It affects everybody. So Support Stroke Awareness to find a cure and hope.

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	Did she get banned again? I haven't seen here here for a while...

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