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Unread 11-26-2007, 11:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Did she get banned again? I haven't seen here here for a while...
She was banned for a while before Thanksgiving but now she is unbanned. Will I be banned for talking about banned?
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Unread 11-27-2007, 05:34 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes I can understand some of your posts after bad experience with Fuzzy's criticizing toward our writing grammar. Reba's offer to make a suggestion is different as criticizing.

Example: You don't understand what I writing and hope someone translate my English writing into ASL for you. OR Next time, please watch your spelling out before make your post then we won't confuse your misspelling... This is a criticizing but Reba's suggestion is not criticizing... but glad to correct your spelling/writing grammar when you ASK for the correction. This is a difference.

Tell you the truth, I met many people who brags how good writing grammar they write but really is they have problem for lack of their knowledge to social skills and life...

Yes, I accept my knowledge that I am not prefect writer but I have a good talent and can do everything with my hands... If anyone who like to pick on/critizing/worry about my writing grammar then is their LOSS...
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Unread 11-27-2007, 10:59 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Liebling's explanation is spot on. We've seen posts by “unofficial English coaches” and many worse instances of misplaced arrogance and one-upmanship. It’s not a wonderful thing but pretty much par for the course in a group so international and with such ranges in age, education, and circumstances.

I’ve lived with the stereotype of the English teacher ready to pounce on the slightest error. I never correct outside class, editing I’m paid for, or specific requests. Yet even my own mom was afraid to write me letters in fear I’d grade them. It’s hilarious, because in my experience, all self-styled “grammar police” are non-professionals--wanna-be English teachers who are actually little more than low-grade bullies trying to own the playground.

They’re everywhere and nothing will stop them from posting misguided (and, as Leibling says, often incorrect) advice, sometimes followed by paragraphs of copied grammar texts with much more general info than you ever wanted to know or can wade through.

You can bet “Cronan, the Grammarian, killer of all expression” will post in this new section, but the difference will be that someone has asked for specific information, and there are enough members who will recognize unhelpful advice and be able to suggest something more helpful.

It’s true not many will use this new section. The old saying is, “You can always tell a writer bent on publishing . . . but you sure can’t tell him much” ha ha ha.

However, I think this forum may tone down the free advice in other sections and offer a place for those who would really like an educational discussion.
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Unread 11-27-2007, 03:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Liebling's explanation is spot on. We've seen posts by “unofficial English coaches” and many worse instances of misplaced arrogance and one-upmanship. It’s not a wonderful thing but pretty much par for the course in a group so international and with such ranges in age, education, and circumstances.

I’ve lived with the stereotype of the English teacher ready to pounce on the slightest error. I never correct outside class, editing I’m paid for, or specific requests. Yet even my own mom was afraid to write me letters in fear I’d grade them. It’s hilarious, because in my experience, all self-styled “grammar police” are non-professionals--wanna-be English teachers who are actually little more than low-grade bullies trying to own the playground.

They’re everywhere and nothing will stop them from posting misguided (and, as Leibling says, often incorrect) advice, sometimes followed by paragraphs of copied grammar texts with much more general info than you ever wanted to know or can wade through.

You can bet “Cronan, the Grammarian, killer of all expression” will post in this new section, but the difference will be that someone has asked for specific information, and there are enough members who will recognize unhelpful advice and be able to suggest something more helpful.

It’s true not many will use this new section. The old saying is, “You can always tell a writer bent on publishing . . . but you sure can’t tell him much” ha ha ha.
Interesting post, Chase. for a English teacher's view.

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However, I think this forum may tone down the free advice in other sections and offer a place for those who would really like an educational discussion.
I hope so.

I created a poll in "general chat" - Poll: New writing section or subsection? I hope enough vote to know if people want this.
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Unread 11-27-2007, 04:20 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Will I be banned for talking about banned?
Yes!!.... I'm just kidding, nah you won't.
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