AT&T suing Verzion over using outdate 3G maps on ads

TechBill · 11-03-2009, 04:22 PM

AT&T suing Verzion for using outdated 3G map in their ads which AT&T feel are misleading customers.

AT&T sues Verizon Wireless over 3G ads

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DefMATRIXense · 11-03-2009, 07:06 PM

I'm not surprised and knew version is either lying or faking about AT&T coverage over the USA. That's why I'm still using AT&T.

Foxrac · 11-03-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DefMATRIXense

I'm not surprised and knew version is either lying or faking about AT&T coverage over the USA. That's why I'm still using AT&T.

No, Verizon use att 3G coverage map that according to att website and att haven't update the coverage map for 3G yet so it is all att fault that don't update the 3G coverage map on their website.

Verizon isn't lying since they use accurate 3G coverage map that att has one on website.

Foxrac · 11-03-2009, 09:37 PM

att is just suing because they want money and try find excuse that why they don't find way to compete, also att did use compare with Verizon on their website.

Go to att website and check their flash that how they compare with Verizon.
http://www.att.com/

Christer · 11-03-2009, 10:37 PM

I knew it.

Pinky · 11-03-2009, 10:38 PM

I have question. Is that true about AT&T bought from Centennial Wireless???

Deafscooter · 11-03-2009, 10:41 PM

Here is What Problem ( the verzion try sell more to Deafies for PDA ) over AT&T ??

Deafscooter dont Buying both Sprint and Verzion Because there has NO SIM Card!!
if you plan go out country and you need use SIM to CELL PHONE to use in Country

Here is Coverage the signal what you need it for Data plan .....
============================================

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============================================

What you think Verzion is Cheat the AD Screen like Bad AT&T ?? Then you
check on your self to find out Coverage on Sprint, Verzion, Tmobile, AT&T

There have Two Carrier have SIM Card to Phone (Verzion & Sprint dont SIM)

Pinky · 11-03-2009, 10:57 PM

That is exactly! I saw on the commercial. I puzzled it. Because AT&T is almost same as Verizon's coverage. The other commercial of Verizon Wireless. The Verizon think the best coverage than AT&T. That's not true.

Deafscooter, Thank you for the post of maps to proof it.

***Brian*** · 11-03-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinky

I have question. Is that true about AT&T bought from Centennial Wireless???

Yes Pinky. It is true AT&T recently bought Centennial Wireless out.

sequoias · 11-04-2009, 12:00 AM

Deafscooter, that's coverage of data/voice combined. 3g coverage is smaller than what you showed. When you go out of Seattle metro area or East WA...it's on edge mostly which is not 3G.

Deafscooter · 11-04-2009, 12:16 AM

here is for add on "Data Plan" Coverage ( AT&T ) check -->
AT&T Coverage Viewer

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Foxrac · 11-04-2009, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinky

That is exactly! I saw on the commercial. I puzzled it. Because AT&T is almost same as Verizon's coverage. The other commercial of Verizon Wireless. The Verizon think the best coverage than AT&T. That's not true.

Deafscooter, Thank you for the post of maps to proof it.

You and deafscotter are just misread because Verizon use compare with coverage for 3G only, not entire or national coverage so please read so carefully, when you see coverage that Verizon show on ads is all about 3G only, white on map is means non-3G and no services.

Google it up and learn about 3G, it meas broadband style wireless internet.

Foxrac · 11-04-2009, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deafscooter

Here is What Problem ( the verzion try sell more to Deafies for PDA ) over AT&T ??

Deafscooter dont Buying both Sprint and Verzion Because there has NO SIM Card!!
if you plan go out country and you need use SIM to CELL PHONE to use in Country

Here is Coverage the signal what you need it for Data plan .....
============================================

============================================

============================================

What you think Verzion is Cheat the AD Screen like Bad AT&T ?? Then you
check on your self to find out Coverage on Sprint, Verzion, Tmobile, AT&T

There have Two Carrier have SIM Card to Phone (Verzion & Sprint dont SIM)

Deafscotter, I don't care about world phone or GSM, I don't plan to visit other countries or so, I'm Verizon user and Verizon does sell some world phone (combined of GSM and CDMA), same with Sprint as well. This thread is all about coverage in US, not other countries so sticking with discuss about US wireless coverage.

I own BB Tour that use combined of GSM and CDMA.

Att is suing Verizon over 3G coverage but not national coverage like sequioas said 3G coverage for att is smaller than national coverage, Verizon is just compare the coverage for 3G only.

sequoias · 11-04-2009, 01:51 AM

Look at the blue...that's 3g.

The Highlander · 11-04-2009, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deafscooter

Here is What Problem ( the verzion try sell more to Deafies for PDA ) over AT&T ??

Deafscooter dont Buying both Sprint and Verzion Because there has NO SIM Card!!
if you plan go out country and you need use SIM to CELL PHONE to use in Country

Here is Coverage the signal what you need it for Data plan .....
============================================

============================================

============================================

What you think Verzion is Cheat the AD Screen like Bad AT&T ?? Then you
check on your self to find out Coverage on Sprint, Verzion, Tmobile, AT&T

There have Two Carrier have SIM Card to Phone (Verzion & Sprint dont SIM)

Deafscooter- FAILED

Sprint Relay Store & Sprint

BlackBerry® Tour™ 9630

Yes, VZ and Sprint do have SIM CARD for some mobiles for world travel business.

Jiro · 11-04-2009, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

Deafscooter- FAILED

Sprint Relay Store & Sprint

BlackBerry® Tour™ 9630

Yes, VZ and Sprint do have SIM CARD for some mobiles for world travel business.

well.... do you see handful of deafies using those international business-purpose phones? and plus - lot of deafies do not opt for Verizon because of mandatory voice plan which add cost - something that they do not want.

The Highlander · 11-04-2009, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

well.... do you see handful of deafies using those international business-purpose phones? and plus - lot of deafies do not opt for Verizon because of mandatory voice plan which add cost - something that they do not want.

I know mostly of deaf peoples can't afford for out of country. My point about Deafscooter as himself.

Quote:

Deafscooter dont Buying both Sprint and Verzion Because there has NO SIM Card!!
if you plan go out country and you need use SIM to CELL PHONE to use in Country

Do you believe when he said that? So I posted a link to correct him.

Jiro · 11-04-2009, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

I know mostly of deaf peoples can't afford for out of country. My point about Deafscooter as himself.

let's not assume lot of deafies are poor to travel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

Do you believe when he said that? So I posted a link to correct him.

technically yes you are correct. but then deafscooter is also right that you can simply remove your SIM card and use it in any other cheap phone in foreign country.

The Highlander · 11-04-2009, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deafscooter

here is for add on "Data Plan" Coverage ( AT&T ) check -->
AT&T Coverage Viewer

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The highlander said Deafscooter is not correct about coverage. It is not 3G. It's EDGE.

Jiro · 11-04-2009, 03:37 AM

highlander - nice catch! wondering why AT&T is using 4 barely-different blue legends

SUSPICIOUS, huh?

Foxrac · 11-04-2009, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

well.... do you see handful of deafies using those international business-purpose phones? and plus - lot of deafies do not opt for Verizon because of mandatory voice plan which add cost - something that they do not want.

You are wrong, consumers can pick data only under Verizon like I did.

Foxrac · 11-04-2009, 03:56 AM

There's att 3G coverage in dark blue.

TechBill · 11-04-2009, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

No, Verizon use att 3G coverage map that according to att website and att haven't update the coverage map for 3G yet so it is all att fault that don't update the 3G coverage map on their website.

Verizon isn't lying since they use accurate 3G coverage map that att has one on website.

If a company "A" post an inaccurate or outdated information something about themseleves then another company "B" take it and claim it to be accurate ... It company "A" fault?

No because company "B" reponisbly is to make sure the information they taken is accurate before making some claim on it in their ads.

Verzion is a multi-dollar busniess and pretty sure they already researched and knew that the AT&T map was outdate by 3 some years but went ahead ran an ad which was misleading.

That map was real but they were misleading people with thinking it was up to date map with the ads.

Running an ad with inaccurate information is called "false adversiting" or "misleading adversiting"

If Verzion wasn't in the wrong then AT&T would had no ground to file a lawsuit againist Verzion.

It like AT&T taking 5 year old Verzion map and run an ads comparing it with it newest AT&T 3G map making Verzion look like it have few EVDO in USA compare to 3G.

And 5 year old Verzion map is real but AT&T will still be blame for trying to misleading people with an 5 year old Verzion map because they found it on the internet and claim it to be accurate

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TechBill · 11-04-2009, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deafscooter

here is for add on "Data Plan" Coverage ( AT&T ) check -->
AT&T Coverage Viewer

================================================

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

You and deafscotter are just misread because Verizon use compare with coverage for 3G only, not entire or national coverage so please read so carefully, when you see coverage that Verizon show on ads is all about 3G only, white on map is means non-3G and no services.

Google it up and learn about 3G, it meas broadband style wireless internet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Deafscotter, I don't care about world phone or GSM, I don't plan to visit other countries or so, I'm Verizon user and Verizon does sell some world phone (combined of GSM and CDMA), same with Sprint as well. This thread is all about coverage in US, not other countries so sticking with discuss about US wireless coverage.

I own BB Tour that use combined of GSM and CDMA.

Att is suing Verizon over 3G coverage but not national coverage like sequioas said 3G coverage for att is smaller than national coverage, Verizon is just compare the coverage for 3G only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sequoias

Look at the blue...that's 3g.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

The highlander said Deafscooter is not correct about coverage. It is not 3G. It's EDGE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

highlander - nice catch! wondering why AT&T is using 4 barely-different blue legends

SUSPICIOUS, huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

You are wrong, consumers can pick data only under Verizon like I did.

You all are debating over an outdated old AT&T map ...

There is no update map of AT&T 3G avaliable to the public and it even the same outdated map that Verzion use in their ads.

Everyone knows that Verizon have much more EVDO coverage than AT&T 3G coverage in USA but it wasn't the point to being with.

The point was Verizon ad was misleading and AT&T is suing them for it.

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Foxrac · 11-04-2009, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechBill

If a company "A" post an inaccurate or outdated information something about themseleves then another company "B" take it and claim it to be accurate ... It company "A" fault?

No because company "B" reponisbly is to make sure the information they taken is accurate before making some claim on it in their ads.

Verzion is a multi-dollar busniess and pretty sure they already researched and knew that the AT&T map was outdate by 3 some years but went ahead ran an ad which was misleading.

That map was real but they were misleading people with thinking it was up to date map with the ads.

Running an ad with inaccurate information is called "false adversiting" or "misleading adversiting"

If Verzion wasn't in the wrong then AT&T would had no ground to file a lawsuit againist Verzion.

It like AT&T taking 5 year old Verzion map and run an ads comparing it with it newest AT&T 3G map making Verzion look like it have few EVDO in USA compare to 3G.

And 5 year old Verzion map is real but AT&T will still be blame for trying to misleading people with an 5 year old Verzion map because they found it on the internet and claim it to be accurate

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No, Verizon is using existing att 3G coverage that att has one on their website and that isn't 3 years old so go to att.com to check coverage map and compare with other one that Verizon posted the ads.

Att is just want find excuse to stop Verizon from compare with 3G coverage.

The Highlander · 11-04-2009, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechBill

You all are debating over an outdated old AT&T map ...

There is no update map of AT&T 3G avaliable to the public and it even the same outdated map that Verzion use in their ads.

Everyone knows that Verizon have much more EVDO coverage than AT&T 3G coverage in USA but it wasn't the point to being with.

The point was Verizon ad was misleading and AT&T is suing them for it.

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Why AT&T still have outdated AT&T map on their website right now?

PowerON · 11-04-2009, 10:16 AM

Verzion has already put the fine print on the bottom very brief on end before the ads running ending. at&t has failed to read it and took impulse action against Verzion.

Update or not, at&t is responsibility to keep it update.

btw, at&t has large EDGE or 2G coverage which is lame.

DefMATRIXense · 11-04-2009, 10:27 AM

foxrac, WOW, I didn't know that. ATT misled me motherfucker. It seems Verzion is telling the fucking truth.

The Highlander · 11-04-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

let's not assume lot of deafies are poor to travel.

technically yes you are correct. but then deafscooter is also right that you can simply remove your SIM card and use it in any other cheap phone in foreign country.

No.

Why bother to buy other cheap phone in foreign country if you already have mobile GSM network ready? Just buy the prepaid sim card from foreign country and put sim card in your BB.

I assume you don't visit out of country with mobile before.

My family and I use prepaid sim card for out of country before.

The Highlander · 11-04-2009, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DefMATRIXense

foxrac, WOW, I didn't know that. ATT misled me motherfucker. It seems Verzion is telling the fucking truth.

Right! VZ will win due AT&T use outdate coverage from their website. I bet AT&T confused between EDGE and 3G.

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