T-Mobile Considering Purchase of Sprint (Recent News)

shona67 · 09-15-2009, 11:39 AM

Receny News
T-Mobile owner eyes multi-billion dollar bid for Sprint - Telegraph

Further links
Six Reasons Why T-Mobile Should Not Buy Sprint by PC Magazine: Yahoo! Tech

T-Mobile Eyes Sprint Merger To Battle AT&T, Verizon by NewsFactor: Yahoo! Tech

***Brian*** · 09-15-2009, 02:25 PM

The rumor about Deutsche Telekom/T-Mobile buying Sprint out has been around for several years now.

Should they decide to buy Sprint, they probably aren't interested to retain Sprint's Sprint Relay division/unit.

Foxrac · 09-15-2009, 02:35 PM

No way, it's not good for Sprint and I had seen too many companies buyout, not surprised.

GraysonPeddie · 09-17-2009, 10:55 AM

I don't like companies that merge, like Cingular merging with AT&T, Nextel merging with Sprint, Alltel merging with Verizon, etc.

PowerON · 09-17-2009, 11:03 AM

If that true, then there would be hybrid GSM and CDMA then next step, CDMA will shut for a good.

GraysonPeddie · 09-17-2009, 11:07 AM

My contract with Sprint won't expire until November of 2010.

Foxrac · 09-17-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GraysonPeddie

I don't like companies that merge, like Cingular merging with AT&T, Nextel merging with Sprint, Alltel merging with Verizon, etc.

Cingular was former bellsouth and SBC, I believe so so form into att mobility after SBC bought att in 2005.

All of merge, except for Sprint-Nextel are good reason but Sprint-Nextel is no way, that how hurt Sprint.

***Brian*** · 09-17-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GraysonPeddie

My contract with Sprint won't expire until November of 2010.

Should Sprint be bought out before your contract with Sprint runs out, it won't affect your contract.

***Brian*** · 09-17-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Cingular was former bellsouth and SBC, I believe so so form into att mobility after SBC bought att in 2005.

All of merge, except for Sprint-Nextel are good reason but Sprint-Nextel is no way, that how hurt Sprint.

Yeah, you are correct about BellSouth/SBC jointly-owning Cingular. The reason SBC bought AT&T because it is an internationally-recognized brand. They only wanted the name and to keep BellSouth from buying it. Poor BellSouth didn't see it coming.

Yeah, Sprint/Nextel deal was a big disaster. Sprint should probably never have abolished Nextel in the first place.

GraysonPeddie · 09-17-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Yeah, you are correct about BellSouth/SBC jointly-owning Cingular. The reason SBC bought AT&T because it is an internationally-recognized brand. They only wanted the name and to keep BellSouth from buying it. Poor BellSouth didn't see it coming.

Yeah, Sprint/Nextel deal was a big disaster. Sprint should probably never have abolished Nextel in the first place.

Which is why I don't like cell phone companies merging into one. I'm hoping to see companies low prices on cell phone plans as I'm paying 20 cents a minute. With my Sprint bill of $90, that includes a $50 data plan, 300 text messaging plan for $5 that I made the most out of for texting with my family, and about 120 to 150 worth of minutes that my family insisted on having voice conversations with me (my mom is with Alltel that was bought by Verizon). I tried to be reasonable with my family, but sometimes I just broke out with her by only texting/e-mailing, but my mom is getting me a "junk" Verizon phone for voice conversations only. However, that's just personal and I'm going too far off-topic here.

It'd be nice to pay 10 cents a minute instead of 20 or 25 cents. I tried to make the most of my text messaging plan, but my family doesn't have a messaging phone. I just wanted to pay on my own while still being so cheap as I'm a college student...

Reba · 09-17-2009, 01:09 PM

I hope T-Mobile and Sprint do NOT merge.

sequoias · 09-17-2009, 01:10 PM

IT's because T-mobile wants to get more coverage...is their selling point.

Foxrac · 09-17-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I hope T-Mobile and Sprint do NOT merge.

Second here...

Foxrac · 09-17-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

IT's because T-mobile wants to get more coverage...is their selling point.

Oh really? but CDMA or GSM so it gonna be laughable at t-mobile.

PowerWCRulez · 09-17-2009, 08:54 PM

When I was at camp site, they're good service on Tmobile sidekick 3 and above it's automatic switch to Cingalur (ATT subcontract with Tmobile) Tmobile pays ATT for my coverage area during vacation trips. I bet Tmobile would buy sprint to get more coverage area. when the ATT goes out of service. My sidekick 3 have tri-band (800, 1700 and 1800) the Tmobile's band is 1700 and Cingalur's band is 1800. The Sprint uses EDGE band for palmheld cellphones as Blackberry and etc. I have wait till my Sidekick 3 goes expire in few month, I might get newer sidekick with EDGE enabled.

Foxrac · 09-17-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerWCRulez

When I was at camp site, they're good service on Tmobile sidekick 3 and above it's automatic switch to Cingalur (ATT subcontract with Tmobile) Tmobile pays ATT for my coverage area during vacation trips. I bet Tmobile would buy sprint to get more coverage area. when the ATT goes out of service. My sidekick 3 have tri-band (800, 1700 and 1800) the Tmobile's band is 1700 and Cingalur's band is 1800. The Sprint uses EDGE band for palmheld cellphones as Blackberry and etc. I have wait till my Sidekick 3 goes expire in few month, I might get newer sidekick with EDGE enabled.

Tmobile and Sprint has different network, tmobile use GSM and Sprint use CDMA so you wouldn't able to use Sprint network on your sidekick if support GSM only.

***Brian*** · 09-17-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Tmobile and Sprint has different network, tmobile use GSM and Sprint use CDMA so you wouldn't able to use Sprint network on your sidekick if support GSM only.

I believe it is possible... It has been done in Europe and Asia before.

***Brian*** · 09-17-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GraysonPeddie

Which is why I don't like cell phone companies merging into one. I'm hoping to see companies low prices on cell phone plans as I'm paying 20 cents a minute. With my Sprint bill of $90, that includes a $50 data plan, 300 text messaging plan for $5 that I made the most out of for texting with my family, and about 120 to 150 worth of minutes that my family insisted on having voice conversations with me (my mom is with Alltel that was bought by Verizon). I tried to be reasonable with my family, but sometimes I just broke out with her by only texting/e-mailing, but my mom is getting me a "junk" Verizon phone for voice conversations only. However, that's just personal and I'm going too far off-topic here.

It'd be nice to pay 10 cents a minute instead of 20 or 25 cents. I tried to make the most of my text messaging plan, but my family doesn't have a messaging phone. I just wanted to pay on my own while still being so cheap as I'm a college student...

Yes, I agree it would be nice to have that option. It sucks not being able to use some features (because of deafness). We shouldn't have to pay for stuff that we cannot/don't use.

Foxrac · 09-17-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

I believe it is possible... It has been done in Europe and Asia before.

Not true, don't compare with CDMA2000 and WCDMA, both of them are separated.

CDMA2000 is very popular for US and Canada since WCDMA is very popular for GSM carriers that use for 3G only in rest of world, that what att and tmobile use WCDMA for 3G since Verizon and Sprint use CDMA2000.

Combine with GSM and CDMA would cost alot for phone so tmobile would experience about separation on between CDMA and GSM.

Remember, Nextel use IDEN so Sprint purchased it and it's not same network and that how Sprint hurt so it could happen to tmobile.

My BB does support CDMA and GSM in combined but it's not simple because you need sim card to read on GSM since CDMA don't use sim card, it would be complicate when use GSM and CDMA in combined for US, IMO.

shona67 · 09-18-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Not true, don't compare with CDMA2000 and WCDMA, both of them are separated.

CDMA2000 is very popular for US and Canada since WCDMA is very popular for GSM carriers that use for 3G only in rest of world, that what att and tmobile use WCDMA for 3G since Verizon and Sprint use CDMA2000.

Combine with GSM and CDMA would cost alot for phone so tmobile would experience about separation on between CDMA and GSM.

Remember, Nextel use IDEN so Sprint purchased it and it's not same network and that how Sprint hurt so it could happen to tmobile.

My BB does support CDMA and GSM in combined but it's not simple because you need sim card to read on GSM since CDMA don't use sim card, it would be complicate when use GSM and CDMA in combined for US, IMO.

Yes, thats correct. GSM covers 85 to 90% market internationally. CDMA has about 10% market primarily in North America such as Canada and USA. Japan and South Korea's CDMA technology is totally different from the rest of the world. Even Sprint/Verizon/Atell Blackberry devices won't work in those Asian countries. In other words, Sprint BlackBerry models except 8830 and Tour also won't work in other GSM 250 plus countries.

It is likely for Deutsche Telekom AG to offer a bid on Sprint in several weeks from now.

Further link: CDMA vs GSM - Difference and Comparison - Diffen

shona67 · 09-18-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shona67

Yes, thats correct. GSM covers 85 to 90% market internationally. CDMA has about 10% market primarily in North America such as Canada and USA. Japan and South Korea's CDMA technology is totally different from the rest of the world. Even Sprint/Verizon/Atell Blackberry devices won't work in those Asian countries. In other words, Sprint BlackBerry models except 8830 and Tour also won't work in other GSM 250 plus countries.

It is likely for Deutsche Telekom AG to offer a bid on Sprint in several weeks from now.

Further link: CDMA vs GSM - Difference and Comparison - Diffen

One more thing. Sprint Corp. keeps on losing 500k to 900k customers per quarter since two years. Their market value is now $10 billion with debt of $21 billion.

Foxrac · 09-18-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shona67

Yes, thats correct. GSM covers 85 to 90% market internationally. CDMA has about 10% market primarily in North America such as Canada and USA. Japan and South Korea's CDMA technology is totally different from the rest of the world. Even Sprint/Verizon/Atell Blackberry devices won't work in those Asian countries. In other words, Sprint BlackBerry models except 8830 and Tour also won't work in other GSM 250 plus countries.

It is likely for Deutsche Telekom AG to offer a bid on Sprint in several weeks from now.

Further link: CDMA vs GSM - Difference and Comparison - Diffen

Yup, I have Tour that support GSM and CDMA., from Verizon.

I hopefully that Sprint will reject the tmobile's bid, I'm going start feel so bad for Reba due victim of fraud by Sprint.

Reba · 09-18-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Yup, I have Tour that support GSM and CDMA., from Verizon.

I hopefully that Sprint will reject the tmobile's bid, I'm going start feel so bad for Reba due victim of fraud by Sprint.

Excedio · 09-23-2009, 11:42 PM

I see a lot of comments talking about what the different carriers have, as far as networks. But I have not really seen anyone say specifically why this would be such a bad idea for either company.

Sprint has a good 3G/4G network and the 4G is expanding. T-Mobile has a laughable 3G network. This would be a good move on T-Mobile's part.

As for Alltel/Verizon...ever since Verizon bought Alltel, and they have been converting towers and all that garbage, I have had nothing but a crappy signal...

MyTouch here I come...

dkf747 · 09-24-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Excedio

I see a lot of comments talking about what the different carriers have, as far as networks. But I have not really seen anyone say specifically why this would be such a bad idea for either company.

Sprint has a good 3G/4G network and the 4G is expanding. T-Mobile has a laughable 3G network. This would be a good move on T-Mobile's part.

As for Alltel/Verizon...ever since Verizon bought Alltel, and they have been converting towers and all that garbage, I have had nothing but a crappy signal...

MyTouch here I come...

Actually, someone did post why this is a bad idea. If they did merge, T-Mobile phones would not get any better coverage, and neither would Sprint. Instead, everyone who has a phone from either one would need to replace it with a phone that works on both GSM and CDMA to take advantage of both networks. Remember that they have different networks that are not compatible.

Foxrac · 09-24-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dkf747

Actually, someone did post why this is a bad idea. If they did merge, T-Mobile phones would not get any better coverage, and neither would Sprint. Instead, everyone who has a phone from either one would need to replace it with a phone that works on both GSM and CDMA to take advantage of both networks. Remember that they have different networks that are not compatible.

Agreed, this person is really don't know.

I'm Verizon user, after merge with Alltel so our coverage is just still fine.

sequoias · 09-24-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Oh really? but CDMA or GSM so it gonna be laughable at t-mobile.

More likely change to GSM. EVDO is not standard worldwide...GSM is.

Excedio · 09-24-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Agreed, this person is really don't know.

I'm Verizon user, after merge with Alltel so our coverage is just still fine.

So I don't know because your phone seems to not have it's coverage drop? Guess what, coverage is not the same everywhere, it vaires from place to place. And in my location...it's dropping.

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Originally Posted by dkf747

everyone who has a phone from either one would need to replace it

Have any facts to back this up with? I seriously doubt customer's would be forced to replace their phones...

shona67 · 09-24-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Excedio

I see a lot of comments talking about what the different carriers have, as far as networks. But I have not really seen anyone say specifically why this would be such a bad idea for either company.

Sprint has a good 3G/4G network and the 4G is expanding. T-Mobile has a laughable 3G network. This would be a good move on T-Mobile's part.

As for Alltel/Verizon...ever since Verizon bought Alltel, and they have been converting towers and all that garbage, I have had nothing but a crappy signal...

MyTouch here I come...

Oh well, I don't think Deutsche Telekom is stupid about integrating two network. I am pretty sure that they are gonna to phase CDMA out somewhow, who knows? They know exactly what they are doing with a bid. Let's not forget Germany's T-Mobile (Deutsche Telekom) is number 8 for the largest mobile provider in the world.

List of mobile network operators - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

dkf747 · 09-24-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Excedio

Have any facts to back this up with? I seriously doubt customer's would be forced to replace their phones...

Sure,. my TMO Blackberry 8700G (GSM) will not work on Sprint's network (CDMA), nor will my wife's sidekick 2008, or my daughters' phones. My Sprint Blackberry 8703e will not work on TMO's network. These are phones we have right now. If these companies merge then I will have to replace all of these phones to take advantage of the new merged network or be satisfied with the same old network. If I have to do that then there is no advantage to a merger.l

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*Brian* 極度の調整器 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,626	The rumor about Deutsche Telekom/T-Mobile buying Sprint out has been around for several years now. Should they decide to buy Sprint, they probably aren't interested to retain Sprint's Sprint Relay division/unit.

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Excedio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 33	I see a lot of comments talking about what the different carriers have, as far as networks. But I have not really seen anyone say specifically why this would be such a bad idea for either company. Sprint has a good 3G/4G network and the 4G is expanding. T-Mobile has a laughable 3G network. This would be a good move on T-Mobile's part. As for Alltel/Verizon...ever since Verizon bought Alltel, and they have been converting towers and all that garbage, I have had nothing but a crappy signal... MyTouch here I come...

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