sima1289

can hearing people even buy vp's?

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VamPyroX

I don't see why not?

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tsmullins

There are several Sorenson compatible VP's. Dlink i2eye is one. You will need to buy a VP that uses the SIP protocol. There are even some that will will turn your computer into a "VP". If you have a webcam, then you can use the xlite softphone to make sip video calls (i have not done this, but the xlite does support webcams).

With the i2eye and other VP's you will need to call the IP address of the other endpoint.

Shane

whatdidyousay!

What is a vp's? I am not up todate with all the new tech out today!

sima1289

vp = video phone. don't worry, i know pretty much nothing about them either...just that most of my deaf friends have them, and i want to be able to practice signing with them, but i'm hearing, so...yeah

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CJB

I don't see why not. Unless they require you to show medical documentation proving deafness to buy a VP.

Brian

You could, but you can also download one for webcams - free of charge.

Viable.net Homepage
http://www.hovrs.com
ZVRS
http://www.sprintvrs.com

sima1289

thanks!

question about vp's though: do you have to have an interpreter during a vp session if both people know how to sign? is there an option on any of these downloadable vp's to not use an interpreter?

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Brian

I have only tried the one by Viable and HOVRS/Purple. They both have the option where you don't have to use the relay services.

sima1289

ok, SO MUCH! i d/led the hovrsWidget. i can't wait to use this! :-D

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SouthFella

LOL Brian why give her a link to a company under investigating and going under ???? Geesh Dude !!!

Go to Sorenson and get their link for the webcam video relay..

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sima1289

i've been to the sorenson site, but where do i go on the site to find out about the webcam video relay?

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RedWolf

I thought Sorenson no longer using the webcam software anymore? Geesh, I forgot the name of the software that Sorenson no longer uses now anymore...

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dkf747

Envision SL and it doesn't work anymore.

LDNanna

I think you will be fine with hovrs widget. P3 you can get your own 10 digit local number. If you do this, you can make p2p call, no terp. p3 is free to download and no cost for number. It is good that your deaf and signing friends can call you on your computer, no vp required. You just need computer and a webcam. You can also use i711 video relay. You may also need your own 10 digit number for this - not sure. You could ask Nathan, Chevy57, jclarke, or maybe Wiley?? I think they could answer this really well.

sima1289

i downloaded hovrswidget, but i haven't gotten a chance to make sure it works (i've been so busy with college! haha). but how do i make the option to not use an interpreter?

any of the people listed above (nathan, chevy57, jclarke, wiley): help? haha

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Chevy57

Must be hearing impaired customers to get free P3 download software and get new purple numbers when they have been applied. That s following FCC regulations.

FCC has adopted rules that require VRS and IP Relay users to obtain a “real” ten-digit telephone number to place and receive calls using VRS and IP Relay.

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sima1289

so does that mean that the widget won't work for me? even though i made an account on the hovrs site and registered a number?

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LDNanna

Aww. Maybe you could use ooVoo or instant messenger. No terp there.

sima1289

i can use oovoo/im for 1 of my deaf friends because she has a computer w/ a webcam, but my other deaf friend doesn't have a laptop, and he goes to boarding school...i think he only has vp...

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Chevy57

Do you have knowledge of ASL? If you aren't submitted to be hearing impaired customer on Purple application profile, Purple can't able to give this number. If you got this number, they will contact you to require to use ASL knowledge.

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radioman

the issue here is having a software on pc to be able to call ip based videophones. Now, pretty much all VP's uses a proiratary software to be able to work with real phone numbers ( or in past fake proxy numbers). the only workaround at this time is find a freind with a copy of envision sl or use netmeeting on a pc. To make a call, currently class A or B ip addresses still works. Keep in mind, these software will only call 1720 VP's. for example, sorenson vp100/200 or MVP on default 1720 setting.

Now for those who say netmeeting is not on vista or doesnt work, - IT DOES WORK. with a little work and knowledge, it can be done and has been done. I have a copy of netmeeting that is setup for vista in a msi file instead of standard install. If you have a old copy of winnt or can extract the cab files from win XP or older, you can find a copy called NM.exe . be sure you SAVE a copy on your vista pc BEFORE you install. THEN right click on that NM file you saved and go to properties. go to compatibility tab and check run as winxp or win nt4. click save and then NOW you can run setup to install netmeeting.

If you have a copy of envision somewhere and want to use on vista, no problem. install netmeeting with steps above FIRST!!!!! After you are done, put a copy of envision sl before you install it on vista and do the same thing and change the compatiblity tab to whatever settings you used with netmeeting. if you used winxp for netmeeting then use winxp for envision sl. Then save and run setup for envision sl. You need to have netmeeting installed for envision sl to work on vista. sorenson had this bright idea long ago to use netmeeting shell for envision sl and built upon on that.


Sorry about long winded post, but wanted to make sure that hearies KNOW that there is SOMETHING out that works. Its better then nothing, although it not easy.

Now HEARIES - hear this--- when you want to make a call to your deaf freinds- before you ask for thier IP address. It never starts with 192.168.x.x!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you think you have a legimate IP address and make the call and get a blackscreen - relax. its proabably a firewall issue on YOUR end. TO solve black screens is a whole another issue but can be solved but needs some patience and virtue.

RedWolf

Oh yes, that is the name I was looking for. Thanks for getting the name for me.

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sima1289

i sign. not fluently, but i can carry on a conversation fairly well

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LDNanna

This looks interesting. It seems that two hearies are doing a demo on skype and ojo video phones. I dont think it is helpful to you but of interest. I am sorry that there are no captions. I could not make out all that they said, just a few words. It does show a nice vid of the two methods shown side by side. First they show the skype which is camera and pc setup, then the ojo video phone. Both fellows seem to be hearing, I think since I see no form of manual communication. Just some gestures that are repeated in each screen.

sima1289

i totally forgot about skype! can it connect to videophones?

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LDNanna

Not a clue. Still, if you just normal call to a deaf person, you see that the interpretor is very nice. They will talk to you, sign to your friend. You still get to talk to your friend. I know you want to practice asl with them though, so I hope you find some way to do this soon.

sima1289

hmm...i got through to my deaf friend on skype, but a. my video wouldn't work and b. it used an interpreter...

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SouthFella

The wonderful world of technology.... Sometimes, a royal headache...

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LDNanna

Well, sign to the terp?