Finally Purple have new firmware but...... - Page 2

RedWolf · 08-03-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty123

heh me laugh at you

port forwarding and dmz for home networking
PortForward.com - The port forwarding progression.

then if DMZ use, port forwarding feature is total useless and router design no good.

No, qwerty, the website does not mention "useless" for port forwarding. It states, "Port forwarding can sometimes be difficult to configure, but provides a relatively safe way of running a server from behind a firewall. Since only a single port (or small series of ports) is exposed to the Internet, the computer is easier to secure. Additionally, port forwarding allows you to run multiple kinds of servers from different computers on your lan." (Homenethelp.com)

This mean that the single port or small number of ports is exposed to the internet but YOUR COMPUTER is secured which it mean your computer is safe and not being exposed to the internet. Also, you mentioned router design is no good, well, you are wrong also. The website states, "Many broadband routers have special port forwarding configuration screens for standard applications (FTP, WWW, Mail, etc) and special screens for custom applications." (PortForward.com) Their technology with port forwarding are specialized to configure the port numbers for any kind of applications.

Sometimes DMZ cause problems with port forwarding. Not all DMZ works with port forwarding. You need to turn DMZ off in order for port forwarding to work behind firewall in your router.

There are multiple applications such as MVP, OJO, VP200 and other to work together. If MVP and VP200 work with one port 1720, then it will conflict and won't work. That why it need new port numbers to get both working at the same time. If you used DMZ, for example, if you put in 192.168.0.26 which it is for MVP right? So, if you put that numbers in, it will redirect their calls to MVP instead of calling to VP200. Lot of people complaining about the calls being re-directed to MVP. That is why port forwarding is needed and DMZ need to be turned off so the calls won't be conflicting and won't be re-directed to any other VPs than your VP200. Why worry about DMZ anyway....your computer won't be affected anyway because your computer might be behind firewall so stop worrying about it.

qwerty123 · 08-03-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

No, qwerty, the website does not mention "useless" for port forwarding. It states, "Port forwarding can sometimes be difficult to configure, but provides a relatively safe way of running a server from behind a firewall. Since only a single port (or small series of ports) is exposed to the Internet, the computer is easier to secure. Additionally, port forwarding allows you to run multiple kinds of servers from different computers on your lan." (Homenethelp.com)

Default Re: WNR3500 : DMZ And Port Forward?
If the router stops forwarding simply because the DMZ is being used then that’s a pretty flawed design. I’ve seen a few threads mention this issue, not many, but the search engine is hard to use to pick out threads on this issue because a search which includes keywords like ‘Port Forward DMZ’ will have way too many hits.

WNR3500 : DMZ And Port Forward? - NETGEAR Forums

as i say before router design no good.

RedWolf · 08-03-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty123

Default Re: WNR3500 : DMZ And Port Forward?
If the router stops forwarding simply because the DMZ is being used then that’s a pretty flawed design. I’ve seen a few threads mention this issue, not many, but the search engine is hard to use to pick out threads on this issue because a search which includes keywords like ‘Port Forward DMZ’ will have way too many hits.

WNR3500 : DMZ And Port Forward? - NETGEAR Forums

as i say before router design no good.

the designs are no good if DMZ and port forwarding being turned on at the same time. DMZ is good for single port....Port Forwarding is only good if there are many ports.

The Highlander · 08-03-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

No, qwerty, the website does not mention "useless" for port forwarding. It states, "Port forwarding can sometimes be difficult to configure, but provides a relatively safe way of running a server from behind a firewall. Since only a single port (or small series of ports) is exposed to the Internet, the computer is easier to secure. Additionally, port forwarding allows you to run multiple kinds of servers from different computers on your lan." (Homenethelp.com)

This mean that the single port or small number of ports is exposed to the internet but YOUR COMPUTER is secured which it mean your computer is safe and not being exposed to the internet. Also, you mentioned router design is no good, well, you are wrong also. The website states, "Many broadband routers have special port forwarding configuration screens for standard applications (FTP, WWW, Mail, etc) and special screens for custom applications." (PortForward.com) Their technology with port forwarding are specialized to configure the port numbers for any kind of applications.

Sometimes DMZ cause problems with port forwarding. Not all DMZ works with port forwarding. You need to turn DMZ off in order for port forwarding to work behind firewall in your router.

There are multiple applications such as MVP, OJO, VP200 and other to work together. If MVP and VP200 work with one port 1720, then it will conflict and won't work. That why it need new port numbers to get both working at the same time. If you used DMZ, for example, if you put in 192.168.0.26 which it is for MVP right? So, if you put that numbers in, it will redirect their calls to MVP instead of calling to VP200. Lot of people complaining about the calls being re-directed to MVP. That is why port forwarding is needed and DMZ need to be turned off so the calls won't be conflicting and won't be re-directed to any other VPs than your VP200. Why worry about DMZ anyway....your computer won't be affected anyway because your computer might be behind firewall so stop worrying about it.

Really?

I alway set both DMZ and forward port and work fine for many years thru different brand of routers for LAN party in long time ago. Also set up for two VPs thru one router and work fine.

I don't see any issue. Maybe it depends on firmware, brand, correct set up. I guess.

RedWolf · 08-03-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Really?

I alway set both DMZ and forward port and work fine for many years thru different brand of routers for LAN party in long time ago. Also set up for two VPs thru one router and work fine.

I don't see any issue. Maybe it depends on firmware, brand, correct set up. I guess.

Okay if you set up two VP200, then you going to need two separate IP address. Sometimes when someone tries to call you, it will redirect their call to different VP200. Sometimes the router will be confused and not sure which call will be placed to because if you only have one IP address, then both VP200 have the same IP address.

Another way to save money if you use port forwarding because if you add IP address then it will cost you MONEY. Additional IP address cost money. I will be better off with one IP address and port forwarding which it is better for me.

The Highlander · 08-03-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

Okay if you set up two VP200, then you going to need two separate IP address. Sometimes when someone tries to call you, it will redirect their call to different VP200. Sometimes the router will be confused and not sure which call will be placed to because if you only have one IP address, then both VP200 have the same IP address.

Another way to save money if you use port forwarding because if you add IP address then it will cost you MONEY. Additional IP address cost money. I will be better off with one IP address and port forwarding which it is better for me.

I don't need extra IP address. Both work fine for incoming and outcoming.

You can't use same IP address for both or they will be conflict.

Router do not confused. It's wrong set up if you put same port number for both then cause issue with incoming. You must put correct IP address AND port number for each VP.

http://www.alldeaf.com/1385197-post12.html

You noticed that each port number are not same for each device?

RedWolf · 08-03-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

I don't need extra IP address. Both work fine for incoming and outcoming.

You can't use same IP address for both or they will be conflict.

Router do not confused. It's wrong set up if you put same port number for both then cause issue with incoming. You must put correct IP address AND port number for each VP.

http://www.alldeaf.com/1385197-post12.html

You noticed that each port number are not same for each device?

Ok I read the post you sent to me but I was talking about if someone got two VP200 in their home...not VP200 and MVP. That is what I was talking about.

I lived with ex-roommate before and he also have VP200 also but we needed 2 IP address for two VP200 so they can call one of us instead of re-directing the call to the other VP200. That happened to me and I called tech support from Sorenson and they told me that I need to buy one more IP address so both of our VP200 can take separate calls. The port forward can work if there are separate applications such as VP200, MVP, and etc...that can work with IP address such as 192.168.0.26...etc... that can work with port forwarding with different videophones. But having two VP200 with 2 different phone numbers you going to need 2 different IP address. Am I right, Chevy?

The Highlander · 08-03-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

Ok I read the post you sent to me but I was talking about if someone got two VP200 in their home...not VP200 and MVP. That is what I was talking about.

I lived with ex-roommate before and he also have VP200 also but we needed 2 IP address for two VP200 so they can call one of us instead of re-directing the call to the other VP200. That happened to me and I called tech support from Sorenson and they told me that I need to buy one more IP address so both of our VP200 can take separate calls. The port forward can work if there are separate applications such as VP200, MVP, and etc...that can work with IP address such as 192.168.0.26...etc... that can work with port forwarding with different videophones. But having two VP200 with 2 different phone numbers you going to need 2 different IP address. Am I right, Chevy?

We own two VP200 and both of them are work fine. Old news about incoming issue. Must be old firmware from vp200 that cause issue with incoming.

radioman · 08-03-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Thank you very much for ur help getting my router set up. I think Purple needs to share that settings if someone doesn't want to ask a technican to help. All the settings were erased due to my roommate hard-resetted it.

See.... it isn't hard for an average person to set it up, as long they know what they are doing.

After the router is setup the way you want it, What I would do If I were you is save the router configuration to a file on your hard drive. If your router is reset for any reason again, to put all those hard work of inputting the ports is easy by uploading the router config file back to the router. Nice and easy does it.

sequoias · 08-03-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by radioman

After the router is setup the way you want it, What I would do If I were you is save the router configuration to a file on your hard drive. If your router is reset for any reason again, to put all those hard work of inputting the ports is easy by uploading the router config file back to the router. Nice and easy does it.

Yeah, that would be a good idea for sure. Thanks for the recommendation. I was thinking about backing it up so I won't have to search for that configuration stuff for it.

qwerty123 · 08-05-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

the designs are no good if DMZ and port forwarding being turned on at the same time. DMZ is good for single port....Port Forwarding is only good if there are many ports.

groan

can have DMZ and port forward at SAME TIME done many times!!

put vp200 dmz put mvp pf 22001 work good

LilCueballRulez · 08-06-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by qwerty123

groan

can have DMZ and port forward at SAME TIME done many times!!

put vp200 dmz put mvp pf 22001 work good

Wait a min! Do you have a MVP now?

RedWolf · 08-06-2009, 02:27 AM

Hmmmm good question to ask, LilCueball....I wonder if qwerty have MVP already...hmmmm

radioman · 08-06-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by qwerty123

groan

can have DMZ and port forward at SAME TIME done many times!!

put vp200 dmz put mvp pf 22001 work good

I am not gonna argue- but I will say that it will be unreliable this way. When you run into a oddball issue, someday you will smack yourself fin the head and say DOH!!!! its the router settings.

Nathan · 08-06-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by qwerty123

groan

can have DMZ and port forward at SAME TIME done many times!!

put vp200 dmz put mvp pf 22001 work good

You won't able to receive incoming call on MVP that way. I will say it again and times again. DMZ overrides it.

LilCueballRulez · 08-06-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

Hmmmm good question to ask, LilCueball....I wonder if qwerty have MVP already...hmmmm

Yea, that's what i thought... If he have one that's mean he can't talk bad things about purple as he might0 have one!

RedWolf · 08-06-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

You won't able to receive incoming call on MVP that way. I will say it again and times again. DMZ overrides it.

That's right, Nathan. It does overrides the calls to VP200 instead of going to MVP.

qwerty, if you have VP200 on DMZ and port forwarding for MVP, it will make the incoming calls directly to VP200 instead of going to MVP. It is best to use both port forwarding to both VP200 and MVP and not use DMZ at all so both calls can work incoming and outgoing calls. Before MVP recent firmware update, I hate it when people called to my VP200, it will re-direct their call to MVP. People will be puzzled why I am on MVP and not on VP200 because the phone numbers are supposed to go to VP200, not to MVP. It will confused lot of people which call to make, VP200 or MVP.

So, it is best to use port forwarding on both MVP and VP200 so people won't get confused anymore. Port forwarding on both VP200 and MVP works beautifully and have no problem so far. Now, I can relax and enjoy calling my friends anytime.

Don't you love it when technology changes to new things? Time for a change, qwerty! Move on and accept it the way technology changes.

qwerty123 · 08-06-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

I wonder if qwerty have MVP already...hmmmm

you wonderful good me has mvp

JClarke · 08-06-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

You won't able to receive incoming call on MVP that way. I will say it again and times again. DMZ overrides it.

Fail for qwerty123

RedWolf · 08-06-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty123

you wonderful good me has mvp

omg.....

JClarke · 08-06-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWolf

omg.....

Now the truth has arrived, what's all the rubbish you have been telling us? qwerty123.

Chevy57 · 08-06-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

Fail for qwerty123

LOL, I agree

Buffie · 08-23-2009, 10:35 AM

if you have VP200 on DMZ and port forwarding for MVP, it will make the incoming calls directly to VP200 instead of going to MVP. It is best to use both port forwarding to both VP200 and MVP and not use DMZ at all so both calls can work incoming and outgoing calls. Before MVP recent firmware update, I hate it when people called to my VP200, it will re-direct their call to MVP. People will be puzzled why I am on MVP and not on VP200 because the phone numbers are supposed to go to VP200, not to MVP. It will confused lot of people which call to make, VP200 or MVP.

So, it is best to use port forwarding on both MVP and VP200 so people won't get confused anymore. Port forwarding on both VP200 and MVP works beautifully and have no problem so far. Now, I can relax and enjoy calling my friends anytime.

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How do I do that? Thats what I want. I dont want my MVP to be primary. I prefer both VP 200 and MVP recieve incoming and outgoing calls. What do I need to do. Please let me know. Thanks.

Chevy57 · 08-23-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffie

if you have VP200 on DMZ and port forwarding for MVP, it will make the incoming calls directly to VP200 instead of going to MVP. It is best to use both port forwarding to both VP200 and MVP and not use DMZ at all so both calls can work incoming and outgoing calls. Before MVP recent firmware update, I hate it when people called to my VP200, it will re-direct their call to MVP. People will be puzzled why I am on MVP and not on VP200 because the phone numbers are supposed to go to VP200, not to MVP. It will confused lot of people which call to make, VP200 or MVP.

So, it is best to use port forwarding on both MVP and VP200 so people won't get confused anymore. Port forwarding on both VP200 and MVP works beautifully and have no problem so far. Now, I can relax and enjoy calling my friends anytime.

How do I do that? Thats what I want. I dont want my MVP to be primary. I prefer both VP 200 and MVP recieve incoming and outgoing calls. What do I need to do. Please let me know. Thanks.

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You better call Purple customer care at first, they will send service call ticket to rep to stop in your place for fixing port fowarding setting.

RedWolf · 08-25-2009, 02:06 AM

I agree with Chevy. It is best that you call Customer Care they will either contact the installer to fix your router to set up the new port forwarding to you. Or Customer Care can help you to do step-by-step instruction on how to set it up yourself. I think it is the best option is having customer care help you to do step by step instruction.

Buffie · 08-25-2009, 10:09 AM

Thank you Chevy57 and Redwolf. I did call purple and someone came over on the samy day! LOL Talk about fast service. LOL Its now fix and I get both incoming and outgoing calls on my VP 200 and MVP. Thanks.

Nathan · 08-25-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffie

Thank you Chevy57 and Redwolf. I did call purple and someone came over on the samy day! LOL Talk about fast service. LOL Its now fix and I get both incoming and outgoing calls on my VP 200 and MVP. Thanks.

Glad to hear that.

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08-23-2009, 10:35 AM	#53 (permalink)
Buffie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 4	if you have VP200 on DMZ and port forwarding for MVP, it will make the incoming calls directly to VP200 instead of going to MVP. It is best to use both port forwarding to both VP200 and MVP and not use DMZ at all so both calls can work incoming and outgoing calls. Before MVP recent firmware update, I hate it when people called to my VP200, it will re-direct their call to MVP. People will be puzzled why I am on MVP and not on VP200 because the phone numbers are supposed to go to VP200, not to MVP. It will confused lot of people which call to make, VP200 or MVP. So, it is best to use port forwarding on both MVP and VP200 so people won't get confused anymore. Port forwarding on both VP200 and MVP works beautifully and have no problem so far. Now, I can relax and enjoy calling my friends anytime. [/QUOTE] How do I do that? Thats what I want. I dont want my MVP to be primary. I prefer both VP 200 and MVP recieve incoming and outgoing calls. What do I need to do. Please let me know. Thanks.

08-25-2009, 10:09 AM	#56 (permalink)
Buffie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 4	Thank you Chevy57 and Redwolf. I did call purple and someone came over on the samy day! LOL Talk about fast service. LOL Its now fix and I get both incoming and outgoing calls on my VP 200 and MVP. Thanks.