XBGMER

You remember that T-Mobile acquired COM ( i forget right spell, reba please spell it out, thank you!)



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Whats your react about t-mobile purchase the sprint??

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Brian

Wouldn't it be SunCom you were thinking of?

It has been several months since I heard of rumours involving Deutsche Telekom/T-Mobile buying out Sprint/Nextel. I don't know how it would be. I highly doubt that T-Mobile would want Sprint Relay included in the package.

Vodafone (parent company of Verizon Wireless) probably will want get their hands on Sprint/Nextel.

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Foxrac

Oh wow, If it's true then it would be more difficult to get it because T-Mobile use GSM and Sprint use CDMA.

I feel that Sprint's future plan on WiMax will be cancel and would make switch into GSM if happen after buy it.

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deafclimber

i am not surprised.it wud be no fun for them to change the radios... not cheapa !....

one thing that annoys me is that germany govt who owns tmobile gets richer from our money. us govt isnt happy about that but it has no choice. according to media articles, the germany govt may not approve if tmobile wants to acquire Sprint. i am not surprised if in that case, us govt will say NO to them.

PowerON

CDMA and GMS mix? Eh, that's big messy

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As employed in wireless telecommunication, I think buying Sprint out is probably worse thing they can do.. I think Sprint need to get rid of the Nextel technology which got them into trouble in first place when they brought them out.

Once they get rid of nextel, then Sprint can be leadership in Wireless Data again. I know cuz my company depends on Sprint for EVDO Data Roaming for our customers.

From past experences, company usually phase out GSM or CDMA depending main network core using in company and market areas.

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deafclimber

i concur that Sprint needs to get rid of Nextel.

The Highlander

Yes, Nextel is worse ever!

I think GSM and CDMA will become in W-CDMA . Correct me if I am wrong.

Brian

I am just wondering what is wrong with Nextel that Sprint should/need to get rid of?

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WBHarley

I agree with Brian

I wonder whats wrong with Nextel..
my bro in law use that co for his work relate..

sequoias

Hmm, my work have co workers on nextel phones. (Company's own phones) *shrugs*

I don't know if T-mobile will actually buy Sprint. It may be a really costly buyout due to the cell phone towers use different technology.

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starrygaze

Maybe many wars stirred who or which own few slices of 700 MHz spectrum wireless for future mobile internet.

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RichardDeaf

WCDMA will not be used in USA.. CDMA carriers (Verzion, ALLTEL, Sprint, USCellular, etc) use CDMA2000 as they are broken into 1.25Mhz bandwidth.. WCDMA use 5Mhz.. If my memory serves me, WCDMA is limited to Japan and UMTS.

Current CDMA2000 technology still serves us very well for EVDO and Voice communciation.

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RichardDeaf

P2T (Push to Talk) is still great, but problem is, Sprint's have to run 2 sep networks (CDMA and Nextel). That mean 2 different billing systems, supports, etc.. I have friends works at Sprint and they said its a nightmare there..

All carriers, including my company offer P2T tech but does better than Nextel.

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Foxrac

3G from att are using UMTS, known as under WCDMA.

I believe that tmobile will use it when upgrade into 3G in summer or fall this year.

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GarnetTigerMom

Yep, I agree with you on this because I saw the world news about Sprint getting into lot of trouble lately. Also lot of customers compliant about Sprint chargeing high bills on the account that not sound right and stealing as well. That why I don't trust sprint since my brother used to work for them.

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deafclimber

tmobile's 3G finally released in nyc last friday so it will try to spread its network to 25 markets in usa before end of 2008.

deafclimber

that is correct. in usa at&t mobilty uses 850 mhz and 1900 mhz wcdma. tmobile usa uses 1700mhz wcdma. wcdma is under GSM. wcdma can runs data and voice at same time. cdma or evdo cant run data and voice at same times.

you guys shdnt be worried about that because we all depend on data network.

verizon and att will roll out with LTE next few years. i dont know where Tmobile will stand since it just released 3G last friday and Sprint has delayed some times with WiMax network.

starrygaze

T-Mobile launches 3G network in NY
Posted by Marguerite Reardon

T-Mobile USA said Monday that it's finally launching its long-awaited 3G wireless network.

New York will be the first city to use the new network, which will initially use a technology called UMTS, or Universal Mobile Telecommunications System, but will eventually use an even faster technology standard called HSDPA, or High-Speed Downlink Packet Access. T-Mobile will continue rolling out the network across other major cities throughout the year. By the end of the year, the company expects that its high-speed data network will be up and running in most major metropolitan areas.


T-Mobile, which is a distant fourth place in the U.S. wireless market with about 29 million customers at the end of December, spent more than $4 billion to buy spectrum in the 2006 Advanced Wireless Service auction held by the Federal Communications Commission. The new spectrum more than doubled the company's spectrum offering and finally gave it the necessary bandwidth to build a high-speed wireless network.

Often seen as a laggard in the U.S. wireless market, T-Mobile has mainly competed against the other big three mobile operators--AT&T, Verizon Wireless, and Sprint Nextel--by offering customers value service plans that are often cheaper and include more free talk time. So far, the company hasn't released details of new pricing for its 3G network, but it's expected to once again beat its competitors on value.

That said, T-Mobile still has some way to go in matching data speeds of its competitors. Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel, whose networks both use the CDMA technology, have 3G networks that use EV-DO. This technology provides data download rates of 500 kilobits per second to 1,000Kbps, peaking at 2Mbps.

These carriers are currently upgrading their networks to the next version of the technology, called EV-DO Revision A, which will give downloads a 10 percent bump in performance and triple upload speeds.

T-Mobile's 3G network will initially use a GSM-based technology called UMTS, which typically provides download speeds of 220Kbps to 320Kbps with bursts at 384Kbps.

The blog Electronista reported earlier this weekend that T-Mobile customers in Brooklyn, N.Y., who already began using the new service before the official launch, have reported UMTS downloads at 300Kbps or more. This is faster than the typical download speeds found using the current 2.5G EDGE network, which offers downloads at about 200Kbps or less.

While UMTS is considered a 3G technology, there is an even faster version of the technology known as HSDPA. AT&T, which also uses GSM, has already begun upgrading from UMTS to HSDPA. And it typically gets average download speeds of 967Kbps, with peaks at 1.63Mbps.

HSDPA is based on UMTS, so upgrading the network is supposedly easy. T-Mobile has already said that it plans to offer its first HSDPA device within a few months. Its parent company Deutsche Telekom is already rolling out HSDPA throughout T-Mobile networks in Europe. So it's very likely that T-Mobile's network will catch up in terms of speed very quickly.

The company is also augmenting its 3G service with an expansion of its T-Mobile HotSpot Wi-Fi network. The hope is that customers will use dual-mode Wi-Fi and cellular phones to leverage both T-Mobile's 3G network as well as fast Wi-Fi networks.

While many T-Mobile customers will likely rejoice that the carrier has finally added 3G capability to its network, it will be interesting to see how quickly the company can get the service to all its markets, and how much it will ask subscribers to pay.

T-Mobile may not stop with its 3G rollout in its efforts to expand its market in the U.S. Parent company Deutsch Telekom is also supposedly in talks to acquire Sprint Nextel, according to a story published Monday in The Wall Street Journal. But I think this scenario is highly unlikely. Stay tuned for a follow-up blog detailing why I think it would be dumb for T-Mobile to acquire Sprint and its cadre of problems.

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A little too late.. 3G has been around for over 3 years.. My company rolled out EVDO (3G) a little over 2.5 years ago. We just upgraded to EVDO Rev A late last year.

Yup.. They still have LONG way to go!!

220Kbps is barely 2 times of CDMA 1X data speed or approx 1/4 of average speed for EVDO rev 0.. With EVDO Rev A, the upload speed increases GREATLY which is completely POSSIBLE to use VRS over wireless phone!!

I wouldn't be suprised if they would charge almost same rate as other carrier's EVDO rate.

Like I said before, I seriously doubt they would buy sprint, they would be like shooting their own foot while sprint is still carrying Nextel.

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RichardDeaf

I foresee LTE will be de-facto standard for 4th Generation but I wouldn't expect to see it available for public use until after 2010-2012 and more likely will be on 700 Mhz system.

Unforunately, I wont get pleasure to work with it as ALLTEL didnt win any 700Mhz bids. But I wouldn't be suprised if we go LTE around 2012 or so.. We usually follow after big carrier.. We rather see big carrier experence with new technology before we do it to ensure the technology will success.

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XBGMER

Honestly, I aint exciting about tmobile want to bid the sprint. My main concerning is between the tmobile and the sprint try to be merger. its my worrying.

a) Oh yeah, yes! thats right.. SunCom, its! thank you, brian!

Honestly I have no clue about sprint/Nextel stuffs and services.

I don't know If t-mobile wanted CDMA and GSM as combo?

what is "WCDMA" stand for?

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WCDMA = Wideband Code Division Multiple Access

It is not in good business sense to operate two CDMA/GSM network within same market or region. Most of the time when a CDMA carriers buy out GSM carrier's markets (typically to gain footprint or/and gain more line accounts, they converts them to CDMA network. Expensive upgrade but very profitable in long run)

I know my company brought few GSM markets in the few years ago, and required customer to get new CDMA phone within time-frame or they wont have phone service. Probably with free upgrades...

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Foxrac

T-mobile is very biggest company in around world, even they are serve in some European countries, such as UK and it took long time for USA to upgrade into 3G but 3G (HSPDA) has been rolling out in European countries since 2006.

T-mobile USA will upgrade into HSPDA in later time and HSDPA is more faster than EVDO, such as 3G for tmobile and O2 in UK is around 6 mbps or little over.

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Foxrac

Why does tmobile can't use 850 mhz and 1900 mhz for 3G? Just wonders.

I'm not surprised about tmobile has rolling the 3G now, only in NYC seems too limited to me but will expands to major cities in later time.

I found out that verizon will get LTE in 2010 and att will get it in 2013, is it right?

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