Future iPhone for Deaf people

**Maria** · 05-14-2007, 07:23 AM

A friend of mine sent me this thru an email. What do you think of this ? Will it benefit to deaf people ? Let's discuss and feedbacks !

Nathan W. Kester

Hwy99 · 05-14-2007, 07:35 AM

Really cool, but it sucks to hold a VP on a hand and signing same time...

Opal · 05-14-2007, 08:05 AM

u should try reading it.

It says “MOCK UP”

That means made up so it is impossible to buy as it does not exist!!!!!!

PowerON · 05-14-2007, 08:57 AM

yeah, it's such an illogical concept

- camera doens't have video mode.
- no iChat (alternative AIM)
- camera is in back, how you know to put in right position?
- no high-speed such as EVDO or G3.

I would like to choke Nathan. Oh.. I'm such a high-tech-snob.

webexplorer · 05-14-2007, 10:31 AM

I devote Apple computers. However, I feel that iPhone is not the right for us because it does not have a QWERTY.

I believe that Steve Jobs does not give a damn about deaf people because he does not meet the ADA requirement - as we always depend on QWERTY to communicate with people online or emails.

If the iPhone has a QWERTY on the LCD, then it might be okay. The drawback is if we drop or lost a plastic pen for the QWERTY buttons. Then, we would be stuck. You know what I mean.

PowerON · 05-14-2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

I believe that Steve Jobs does not give a damn about deaf people because he does not meet the ADA requirement - as we always depend on QWERTY to communicate with people online or emails.

ADA doesn't involed with high-tech product to sell. Only FCC that being follow such as TV with CC. It has nothing with cell phone at all. hush!

PowerON · 05-14-2007, 10:40 AM

BTW, Steven Jobs is hard of hearing, in case you don't know.

webexplorer · 05-14-2007, 10:47 AM

Maria - I didn't know that there is a link about Nathan's website. I read Poweron about choking him...

I like the idea for the VRS. I personally prefer to use the QWERTY buttons instead of typing on the LCD because it is easier and faster for me to press the buttons. For example, it takes 1 minutes to type on LCD button for 10 letters. Using the QWERTY buttons, it would be done in a little over 30 letters in one minute. Don't you think so?

Poweron - I believe that you missed the information about the Wi-Fi ...and the SMS. I just found out that iPhone has one. See the link: http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html

PowerON · 05-14-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

Poweron - I believe that you missed the information about the Wi-Fi ...and the SMS. I just found out that iPhone has one. See the link: http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html

well hello? Wi-fi is short-range. You have to look and find the hotspot to use it. And depend on their firewall. Is that obviously?

webexplorer · 05-14-2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

ADA doesn't involed with high-tech product to sell. Only FCC that being follow such as TV with CC. It has nothing with cell phone at all. hush!

Oh, you are right about the FCC. I didn't think of that. I thought that ADA would be a good way for us to enforce Steve to follow the rules that meet our needs.

In fact, for ADA, it requires the companies to follow the rules if the employees demand a better keyboard replacement or a better monitor with greatly reduces amount of radiation such as an LCD monitor instead of a tube monitor. I am not so sure that it would do the same thing for the QWERTY on iPhone, but this may be a personal stuff that has nothing to do with the company. Suppose, they use it a lot for business stuff. Will it work this way to enforce the companies? I assume not.

PowerON · 05-14-2007, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

Oh, you are right about the FCC. I didn't think of that. I thought that ADA would be a good way for us to enforce Steve to follow the rules that meet our needs.

In fact, for ADA, it requires the companies to follow the rules if the employees demand a better keyboard replacement or a better monitor with greatly reduces amount of radiation such as an LCD monitor instead of a tube monitor. I am not so sure that it would do the same thing for the QWERTY on iPhone, but this may be a personal stuff that has nothing to do with the company. Suppose, they use it a lot for business stuff. Will it work this way to enforce the companies? I assume not.

eh.. no, that's not what ADA do. Just civil right to meet for disability in public, not on toy. oh geez.

Cecil44 · 05-15-2007, 09:03 AM

Hello All,

Here is the "real" videophone already on the market!

ESCAPE VoIP Internet Phone Service Provider and Voice Over IP Telephony

See the picture below!

PowerON · 05-15-2007, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecil44

Hello All,

Here is the "real" videophone already on the market!

ESCAPE VoIP Internet Phone Service Provider and Voice Over IP Telephony

See the picture below!

it's use for wi-fi in location, not long-range like mobile phone.

***VamPyroX*** · 05-15-2007, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

yeah, it's such an illogical concept

- camera doens't have video mode.
- no iChat (alternative AIM)
- camera is in back, how you know to put in right position?
- no high-speed such as EVDO or G3.

I would like to choke Nathan. Oh.. I'm such a high-tech-snob.

I know who Nathan is... I took a couple classes with him here at RIT. In fact, I saw him a few days ago visiting for the weekend.

Anyway, you're right... there will be complications with the camera.

I have seen a phone that shows alternate views. In fact, Nathan himself had one and showed me in class. He showed me the display screen and the camera was looking at me as well. It was one of those really fancy and expensive PDA phones.

**Maria** · 05-15-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

I devote Apple computers. However, I feel that iPhone is not the right for us because it does not have a QWERTY.

I believe that Steve Jobs does not give a damn about deaf people because he does not meet the ADA requirement - as we always depend on QWERTY to communicate with people online or emails.

If the iPhone has a QWERTY on the LCD, then it might be okay. The drawback is if we drop or lost a plastic pen for the QWERTY buttons. Then, we would be stuck. You know what I mean.

Very true about deaf people dependin' on QWERTY to communicate with people online or emails. I am one of them - I depend on " chat " with people online or emails. I am lookin' for a little bit large screen for readin'. I don't like " upright " screen, because it is hard to read in length, if you get my drift.

Yup, I know what you mean.

**Maria** · 05-15-2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

yeah, it's such an illogical concept

- camera doens't have video mode.
- no iChat (alternative AIM)
- camera is in back, how you know to put in right position?
- no high-speed such as EVDO or G3.

I would like to choke Nathan. Oh.. I'm such a high-tech-snob.

Aw dang.. I am very sorry ! lol I didn't know that you knew this person. Gee ...

**Maria** · 05-15-2007, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

Maria - I didn't know that there is a link about Nathan's website. I read Poweron about choking him...

I like the idea for the VRS. I personally prefer to use the QWERTY buttons instead of typing on the LCD because it is easier and faster for me to press the buttons. For example, it takes 1 minutes to type on LCD button for 10 letters. Using the QWERTY buttons, it would be done in a little over 30 letters in one minute. Don't you think so?

Poweron - I believe that you missed the information about the Wi-Fi ...and the SMS. I just found out that iPhone has one. See the link: Apple - iPhone - High Technology - Wireless

It would be nice to carry it around if, there's VRS involved somehow. I never thought that you would type that fast on QWERTY buttons.

Cool ! ( Psst...I have to trim my fingernails to type on my Treo PalmOne 650

) I am glad to create this thread about iPhone.

deafclimber · 05-15-2007, 01:25 PM

it wud be nice if iphone comes with 3G connection, but it wont happen. maybe iphone2 will come with 3G in a future.

at&t will release video share(video calling) this coming june.

webexplorer · 05-15-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafclimber

it wud be nice if iphone comes with 3G connection, but it wont happen. maybe iphone2 will come with 3G in a future.

at&t will release video share(video calling) this coming june.

What is 3G? Is it for video calling?

PowerON · 05-15-2007, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

What is 3G? Is it for video calling?

high speed data for GSM network for mobile phone such as Cingular and future Tmobile.

webexplorer · 05-15-2007, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

high speed data for GSM network for mobile phone such as Cingular and future Tmobile.

Oh I see. It would increase the high frequency. Don't you think that it is a bad idea? Some people have a brain cancer. I mean you put it in your pocket all the times. It might affect your liver or skin due the radiation.

XBGMER · 05-15-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

high speed data for GSM network for mobile phone such as Cingular and future Tmobile.

via BB~

PowerOn, you might familiar about i-mate device, anyway the worst case it has problem with 3G that more often.

I better stick to EDGE..

PowerON · 05-15-2007, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XBGMER

via BB~

PowerOn, you might familiar about i-mate device, anyway the worst case it has problem with 3G that more often.

I better stick to EDGE..

that's too bad, I have treo under sprint with EVDO. sweeeet.

**Foxrac** · 05-15-2007, 07:10 PM

iPhones have Google Earth included but only can use via WiFi and can't use under EDGE because of limited data speed over air.

**Foxrac** · 05-15-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

Oh, you are right about the FCC. I didn't think of that. I thought that ADA would be a good way for us to enforce Steve to follow the rules that meet our needs.

In fact, for ADA, it requires the companies to follow the rules if the employees demand a better keyboard replacement or a better monitor with greatly reduces amount of radiation such as an LCD monitor instead of a tube monitor. I am not so sure that it would do the same thing for the QWERTY on iPhone, but this may be a personal stuff that has nothing to do with the company. Suppose, they use it a lot for business stuff. Will it work this way to enforce the companies? I assume not.

You will getting usually with touch screen at any time, as you learned how to make process on QWERTY touch screen, also cannot be bad than you thought about it.

webexplorer · 05-15-2007, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacman

You will getting usually with touch screen at any time, as you learned how to make process on QWERTY touch screen, also cannot be bad than you thought about it.

I guess that I have to change my habit and try the new way.

deafclimber · 05-15-2007, 11:04 PM

3g is third generation as high speed broadbands. UMTS, EVDO, and HSDPA are 3G.

ATT has HSPDA.
Alltell, Verizon and Sprint have EVDO.
Tmobile USA has only EDGE which is 2.5G yet it should release its 3G this year.

video share - check this - GSM World - SIP.

deafclimber · 05-15-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacman

iPhones have Google Earth included but only can use via WiFi and can't use under EDGE because of limited data speed over air.

not really. i have the google map on my 8125 which has EDGE. it runs just fast enough. EDGE goes up to 220kbps which isnt bad.

i depend on that almost daily to kill traffic in atlanta.

deafclimber · 05-15-2007, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XBGMER

via BB~

PowerOn, you might familiar about i-mate device, anyway the worst case it has problem with 3G that more often.

I better stick to EDGE..

?? i better stick to 3G or up...

my friends have 8525s and blackjacks that have 3G. they can be tethered to laptops while you are away from home and they run the internets very fast like home internet.

imate device ? in usa wireless carriers dont provide that type lately. it is hard to find that type of devices...

PowerON · 05-15-2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacman

iPhones have Google Earth included but only can use via WiFi and can't use under EDGE because of limited data speed over air.

It's not Google Earth, it's Google Maps. And I have it in my treo 700p. It work awesome as Google Maps on website. It's pretty same as what iPhone will do that.

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Hwy99 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A town in middle of the rolling hills Posts: 6,141	Really cool, but it sucks to hold a VP on a hand and signing same time...

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webexplorer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 5,476	I devote Apple computers. However, I feel that iPhone is not the right for us because it does not have a QWERTY. I believe that Steve Jobs does not give a damn about deaf people because he does not meet the ADA requirement - as we always depend on QWERTY to communicate with people online or emails. If the iPhone has a QWERTY on the LCD, then it might be okay. The drawback is if we drop or lost a plastic pen for the QWERTY buttons. Then, we would be stuck. You know what I mean.

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webexplorer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 5,476	Maria - I didn't know that there is a link about Nathan's website. I read Poweron about choking him... I like the idea for the VRS. I personally prefer to use the QWERTY buttons instead of typing on the LCD because it is easier and faster for me to press the buttons. For example, it takes 1 minutes to type on LCD button for 10 letters. Using the QWERTY buttons, it would be done in a little over 30 letters in one minute. Don't you think so? Poweron - I believe that you missed the information about the Wi-Fi ...and the SMS. I just found out that iPhone has one. See the link: http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html

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deafclimber Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: hotlanta Posts: 3,569	it wud be nice if iphone comes with 3G connection, but it wont happen. maybe iphone2 will come with 3G in a future. at&t will release video share(video calling) this coming june.

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deafclimber Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: hotlanta Posts: 3,569	3g is third generation as high speed broadbands. UMTS, EVDO, and HSDPA are 3G. ATT has HSPDA. Alltell, Verizon and Sprint have EVDO. Tmobile USA has only EDGE which is 2.5G yet it should release its 3G this year. video share - check this - GSM World - SIP.

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