anyone use PalmOne Treo650?

07-13-2005, 05:53 PM

For awhile I had been thinking about getting a T-Mobile Sidekick II instead of the run of the mill Motorola cell phone I have now. I use my phone for more internet, IMing, text messaging purposes, rather than talking on it. But then the PalmOne Treo caught my eye. I was curious if anyone is using this, and how you like it?

Dennis · 07-13-2005, 10:41 PM

Used a Sprint model one here. Terrific device all around -- web, voice, email, and camera. IM is a separate download and can be found for free, but AOL doesn't give it away. Superb device, would use again ++. Moved on to a Blackberry and haven't looked back (fits my personality better).

07-13-2005, 11:59 PM

Do you like the features better on the Blackberry? I'm primarily concerned with internet quality. From what I saw on the Treo, it is high quality, real deal internet, and shows the web page as is. Not like very limited mobile phone version.

julysrain · 07-14-2005, 12:33 AM

I almost hate to ask but what are the prices of things like that? Id love to trade in my cell phone (plan is finally almost up) but Im not looking forward to finding out how much they cost....maybe it will be better than I thought....

07-14-2005, 12:44 AM

You might want to uncross your fingers. The Treo650 is 399. I saw it for like 313 or 319 on some website, but I'm not sure about service provider or anything.

**sequoias** · 07-14-2005, 01:39 AM

You might want to check out the Blackberry 7290 on Fusewireless.com. The price isn't shown until u "buy now" and u can see the price but not pay for it yet. It is $149 for the device. IT has web, e-mail, IM and all that with the same T-mobile data plan as the sidekick does. I personally do not like the keyboard, Treo 600/650 is the same tiny keyboard. The sidekick keyboard is easier to type with my big hands.

07-14-2005, 03:24 AM

The website said I'm not authorized to view it. Do you know a site I can take a look at it on? I do have to admit, the Sidekick II looks alot more comfortable than the Treo for typing. How is the internet though? I mean, on the Treo, it was flawless, shown it exactly as it would be on the computer, not to mention, camera, gig hard drive, mp3 capabilites, and Windows emulator.

Dennis · 07-14-2005, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cental34

Do you like the features better on the Blackberry? I'm primarily concerned with internet quality. From what I saw on the Treo, it is high quality, real deal internet, and shows the web page as is. Not like very limited mobile phone version.

For the kind of work I do, the Blackberry was overall a better fit. The keyboard is bigger, the cradle allowed me to feel paging better, a slightly bigger screen, and I can do over the air syncs for my calendar, task list, contacts, and notes.

However, yes, the tradeoff was:
1) I lost a great quality screen (the BB 7750 isn't as bright or sharp as the T650 but it gets the job done)
2) I lost SD card space (you can expand the T650's storage by buying little flash memory cards with 1GB of space and filling them with files and even programs -- I've seen T650s used as MP3 players, while the BB 7750 is limited to 14MB of space)
3) No camera

Both do internet well
Both do IM, though right now neither of them "includes" a program that does the IM -- you have to purchase it, if I recall correcly. One time purchase, no big deal
Both do email and paging, though the Blackberry does it better, in my opinion.
Both can do calendar and task lists
T650 has more games and entertainment options available for cheap/free

07-14-2005, 12:58 PM

It looks like the Treo is more the one for me. The expandable memory is a really big bonus.

bmagee · 07-14-2005, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

For the kind of work I do, the Blackberry was overall a better fit. The keyboard is bigger, the cradle allowed me to feel paging better, a slightly bigger screen, and I can do over the air syncs for my calendar, task list, contacts, and notes.

However, yes, the tradeoff was:
1) I lost a great quality screen (the BB 7750 isn't as bright or sharp as the T650 but it gets the job done)
2) I lost SD card space (you can expand the T650's storage by buying little flash memory cards with 1GB of space and filling them with files and even programs -- I've seen T650s used as MP3 players, while the BB 7750 is limited to 14MB of space)
3) No camera

Both do internet well
Both do IM, though right now neither of them "includes" a program that does the IM -- you have to purchase it, if I recall correcly. One time purchase, no big deal
Both do email and paging, though the Blackberry does it better, in my opinion.
Both can do calendar and task lists
T650 has more games and entertainment options available for cheap/free

Actually, the TREO 650 can do email as well as the blackberry especially that some softwares does the "push" email function that only Blackberries seem to have. I use a program called Chattermail and my emails comes instantly. With the blackberry and sidekick you don't really have much flexibility in chosing software to install on your device as with TREO. Since the TREO is Palm OS based, there are over tens of thousands software applications to download from and more being created weekly.

B

Dennis · 07-14-2005, 01:59 PM

I agree that the Treo can do email -- I just disagree it does it as well as the Blackberry does it. I have several co-workers who are computer illiterate and were intimidated by the Treos -- if something wasn't done exactly correct, they wouldn't receive their emails anymore. We used Chattermail, Snappermail, and various others, but it just wasn't reliable to get PUSH emails in a battery conservative way. Either the battery runs out in 4 to 6 hours, or you don't get your messages when you need them.

Push email on the Blackberry still allows me to run 2 to 3 days without recharging, while being a NO-BRAINER and no set up. Tremendous advantage for me, a support person for my organization.

javapride · 07-14-2005, 02:03 PM

right now verizon's selling that for 249

gonna wait til next month as thier gonna have a MAJOR back to school sale which i ll get for 149 and trade in my SK or keep the SK and give that to my partner until we get the sk2

**sequoias** · 07-14-2005, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cental34

The website said I'm not authorized to view it. Do you know a site I can take a look at it on? I do have to admit, the Sidekick II looks alot more comfortable than the Treo for typing. How is the internet though? I mean, on the Treo, it was flawless, shown it exactly as it would be on the computer, not to mention, camera, gig hard drive, mp3 capabilites, and Windows emulator.

try this. www.fusewireless.com

EDGE · 07-16-2005, 10:32 AM

Treo 650 under Cingular that use EDGE. It's three time faster than SidekickII under T-Mobile that use GPRS. Plus, great coverage... sadly, it cost more. $50 total with basic (voice) minutes plan ($29.99) and unlimited data ($19.99).

Great advantage, you would use Treo 650's bluetooth to make as wireless modem to your laptop while on travel. Really awesome.

Did you know? It's no longer PalmOne anymore. Now, it's come back as Palm, Inc. once again.

07-17-2005, 03:12 AM

Awesome deal. I'm pretty sold on the Treo650. Just going to take a couple of paychecks for me to get it.

Not that I would have use for them (except trying to drop calls to myself at work

) but can anyone tell me if the Treo comes loaded with any relay programs, like the Sidekick comes with Sprint Relay and IP Relay?

Dennis · 07-17-2005, 07:11 AM

Negative -- no relay programs for the Treo exist as of yet. Just IM Relay by using a IM program on the Treo.

EDGE · 07-18-2005, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

Negative -- no relay programs for the Treo exist as of yet. Just IM Relay by using a IM program on the Treo.

I could install terminal and use under MCI's ip-relay. Thank to Mark's thread.

bmagee · 07-27-2005, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

I agree that the Treo can do email -- I just disagree it does it as well as the Blackberry does it. I have several co-workers who are computer illiterate and were intimidated by the Treos -- if something wasn't done exactly correct, they wouldn't receive their emails anymore. We used Chattermail, Snappermail, and various others, but it just wasn't reliable to get PUSH emails in a battery conservative way. Either the battery runs out in 4 to 6 hours, or you don't get your messages when you need them.

Push email on the Blackberry still allows me to run 2 to 3 days without recharging, while being a NO-BRAINER and no set up. Tremendous advantage for me, a support person for my organization.

My TREO 650 does not run out of battery in 4 to 6 hours using chattermail. On a day of very busy email usage, battery runs down to as low as 30% which isn't much different than the sidekicks. Granted, the blackberry may have better battery life, but I'm used to charging the Treo every night so it's not a problem for me. Yes, the TREO can be somewhat frustrating to those who are technology illiterate -- so those people should stick to the sidekick or blackberry.

Ben

bmagee · 07-27-2005, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDGE

I could install terminal and use under MCI's ip-relay. Thank to Mark's thread.

Yes, that would work. I forgot about that method of using relays. Where is that thread so I could try it on my TREO?

Bem

Dennis · 07-28-2005, 06:57 AM

See, the odd thing is, when I set up those terminal programs for my Treo 600 phones to test them for the team, they didn't work. Maybe something was messed up, but it wasn't getting anywhere for me. I tried VT-100, some SSH emulators, and various other terminal programs and got nowhere with connecting to the servers for relay. Dunno why, nearly every other internet program we used worked fine.

EDGE · 07-28-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmagee

Yes, that would work. I forgot about that method of using relays. Where is that thread so I could try it on my TREO?

Bem

simple to setup

hostname/ip: wireless.ip-relay.com
port: 2510

I use terminal for my nokia under http://www.idokorro.com/. Program cost me 45 bucks.

For treo, it's very expensive. eek. good luck.

SherryCherish · 08-22-2005, 08:59 AM

i'm been consider to purchase Treo 650, i'm look for expanding range than Tmobile. But, I don't know if any of you aware to buy an antanne for ur car or ur home. for ur celluphone or pagers to more opening range. Which i haven't try that yet. Beside I own SK2. I'm sure everbody wants our celluphones or pdas have roaming/range all the time than no service. I'm consider becuz of emergency as needed.

EDGE · 08-23-2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SherryCherish

i'm been consider to purchase Treo 650, i'm look for expanding range than Tmobile. But, I don't know if any of you aware to buy an antanne for ur car or ur home. for ur celluphone or pagers to more opening range. Which i haven't try that yet. Beside I own SK2. I'm sure everbody wants our celluphones or pdas have roaming/range all the time than no service. I'm consider becuz of emergency as needed.

will charge on roaming if you're out-of-state/out-of-major-highway. That only thing you can worry.

SherryCherish · 08-23-2005, 09:02 PM

Tmobile don't have much roaming, and i did called tmobile yesterday, and they don't have any extended antanne for sidekick II. Oh well, that's life.

cando · 10-02-2005, 05:36 PM

Treo DOES have relay without using terminal. Same with Blackberry. It's on the internet using the browser. Just go to www.iptty.net. Here's another little known fact... both have free tty direct calling from same site.

bigredgpk · 10-18-2005, 07:28 AM

The Treo is the shit... I've had the 180/270/600/ and 650 all on T-Mo. Best damn device i've ever had. My 650 run's circles around my gf's SK2. I can do IM, push email with Chatter (and a fastmail account), IM for free with Toccer, killer speed with EDGE!, bluetooth for syncing and using as a wireless modem! The free mail app in the Treo also does MS email so I can use it for work and play :-D

I also use TCPMP to play ripped DVD's on my 1gig SD card.

Timmay

DefLord · 10-28-2005, 08:45 PM

I have both Blackberry and Treo 650. I am more attached to my Treo than I am to my blackberry. I use my Treo for IM, Web, Calendar, IM, and etc. As for Blackberry I was using it for emails and IM - but until IM got cut by AOL. SO the developers had to redevelop it. But i find a better range with my Treo than I do with my blackberry. My blackberry has a better keyboard than my Treo. But overall I like the functionality of my Treo over my Blackberry.

10-28-2005, 08:49 PM

Well by now, I've obviously decided to go with the Sidekick II. The Treo looks like a great device, but for the extra money, I'm not sure. The Sidekick serves me perfectly. Plus I've heard of the Treos being plagued with malfunctions. So much in fact, that users have filed a major lawsuit.

DefLord · 10-28-2005, 09:16 PM

What lawsuits?? I have been using my Treo for over 4 months and love it... We use it for all the physicians at my work and they use it for their emails as well as everything else.

But as I indicated you have to go with ur own preference. SK's in my opinion is nice.. but their RANGE sucks! My mother and stepfather has SKII and the range sucks! So what good is a device if you dont have the range?

Gonji · 12-29-2005, 01:27 AM

Wow. Thank you for post here. I think I will buy Treo 650 cost only from $99 right now.

http://store.everythingtreo.com/

Also I found out new product for Treo 700w come out very soon this Jan 5, 2006. The price is still too high.

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/inde...n=expand,45250

07-13-2005, 05:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
apathrev Guest Posts: n/a	anyone use PalmOne Treo650? For awhile I had been thinking about getting a T-Mobile Sidekick II instead of the run of the mill Motorola cell phone I have now. I use my phone for more internet, IMing, text messaging purposes, rather than talking on it. But then the PalmOne Treo caught my eye. I was curious if anyone is using this, and how you like it?

10-28-2005, 08:45 PM	#27 (permalink)
DefLord Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 181	I have both Blackberry and Treo 650. I am more attached to my Treo than I am to my blackberry. I use my Treo for IM, Web, Calendar, IM, and etc. As for Blackberry I was using it for emails and IM - but until IM got cut by AOL. SO the developers had to redevelop it. But i find a better range with my Treo than I do with my blackberry. My blackberry has a better keyboard than my Treo. But overall I like the functionality of my Treo over my Blackberry. __________________ Billy

10-28-2005, 09:16 PM	#29 (permalink)
DefLord Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 181	What lawsuits?? I have been using my Treo for over 4 months and love it... We use it for all the physicians at my work and they use it for their emails as well as everything else. But as I indicated you have to go with ur own preference. SK's in my opinion is nice.. but their RANGE sucks! My mother and stepfather has SKII and the range sucks! So what good is a device if you dont have the range? __________________ Billy

12-29-2005, 01:27 AM	#30 (permalink)
Gonji Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 30	Wow. Thank you for post here. I think I will buy Treo 650 cost only from $99 right now. http://store.everythingtreo.com/ Also I found out new product for Treo 700w come out very soon this Jan 5, 2006. The price is still too high. http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/inde...n=expand,45250 Last edited by Gonji; 12-29-2005 at 01:49 AM.

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07-13-2005, 10:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dennis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Death Star HQ Posts: 1,858	Used a Sprint model one here. Terrific device all around -- web, voice, email, and camera. IM is a separate download and can be found for free, but AOL doesn't give it away. Superb device, would use again ++. Moved on to a Blackberry and haven't looked back (fits my personality better).

07-13-2005, 11:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
apathrev Guest Posts: n/a	Do you like the features better on the Blackberry? I'm primarily concerned with internet quality. From what I saw on the Treo, it is high quality, real deal internet, and shows the web page as is. Not like very limited mobile phone version.

07-14-2005, 12:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
julysrain Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 55	I almost hate to ask but what are the prices of things like that? Id love to trade in my cell phone (plan is finally almost up) but Im not looking forward to finding out how much they cost....maybe it will be better than I thought....

07-14-2005, 12:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
apathrev Guest Posts: n/a	You might want to uncross your fingers. The Treo650 is 399. I saw it for like 313 or 319 on some website, but I'm not sure about service provider or anything.

07-14-2005, 01:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, wind generation capital Posts: 21,947	You might want to check out the Blackberry 7290 on Fusewireless.com. The price isn't shown until u "buy now" and u can see the price but not pay for it yet. It is $149 for the device. IT has web, e-mail, IM and all that with the same T-mobile data plan as the sidekick does. I personally do not like the keyboard, Treo 600/650 is the same tiny keyboard. The sidekick keyboard is easier to type with my big hands.

07-14-2005, 03:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
apathrev Guest Posts: n/a	The website said I'm not authorized to view it. Do you know a site I can take a look at it on? I do have to admit, the Sidekick II looks alot more comfortable than the Treo for typing. How is the internet though? I mean, on the Treo, it was flawless, shown it exactly as it would be on the computer, not to mention, camera, gig hard drive, mp3 capabilites, and Windows emulator.

07-14-2005, 12:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
apathrev Guest Posts: n/a	It looks like the Treo is more the one for me. The expandable memory is a really big bonus.

07-14-2005, 01:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dennis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Death Star HQ Posts: 1,858	I agree that the Treo can do email -- I just disagree it does it as well as the Blackberry does it. I have several co-workers who are computer illiterate and were intimidated by the Treos -- if something wasn't done exactly correct, they wouldn't receive their emails anymore. We used Chattermail, Snappermail, and various others, but it just wasn't reliable to get PUSH emails in a battery conservative way. Either the battery runs out in 4 to 6 hours, or you don't get your messages when you need them. Push email on the Blackberry still allows me to run 2 to 3 days without recharging, while being a NO-BRAINER and no set up. Tremendous advantage for me, a support person for my organization.

07-14-2005, 02:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
javapride Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hawaii Posts: 6,511	right now verizon's selling that for 249 gonna wait til next month as thier gonna have a MAJOR back to school sale which i ll get for 149 and trade in my SK or keep the SK and give that to my partner until we get the sk2

07-16-2005, 10:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
EDGE Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,010	Treo 650 under Cingular that use EDGE. It's three time faster than SidekickII under T-Mobile that use GPRS. Plus, great coverage... sadly, it cost more. $50 total with basic (voice) minutes plan ($29.99) and unlimited data ($19.99). Great advantage, you would use Treo 650's bluetooth to make as wireless modem to your laptop while on travel. Really awesome. Did you know? It's no longer PalmOne anymore. Now, it's come back as Palm, Inc. once again.

07-17-2005, 03:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
apathrev Guest Posts: n/a	Awesome deal. I'm pretty sold on the Treo650. Just going to take a couple of paychecks for me to get it. Not that I would have use for them (except trying to drop calls to myself at work ) but can anyone tell me if the Treo comes loaded with any relay programs, like the Sidekick comes with Sprint Relay and IP Relay?

07-17-2005, 07:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
Dennis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Death Star HQ Posts: 1,858	Negative -- no relay programs for the Treo exist as of yet. Just IM Relay by using a IM program on the Treo.

07-28-2005, 06:57 AM	#20 (permalink)
Dennis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Death Star HQ Posts: 1,858	See, the odd thing is, when I set up those terminal programs for my Treo 600 phones to test them for the team, they didn't work. Maybe something was messed up, but it wasn't getting anywhere for me. I tried VT-100, some SSH emulators, and various other terminal programs and got nowhere with connecting to the servers for relay. Dunno why, nearly every other internet program we used worked fine.

08-22-2005, 08:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
SherryCherish Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,550	i'm been consider to purchase Treo 650, i'm look for expanding range than Tmobile. But, I don't know if any of you aware to buy an antanne for ur car or ur home. for ur celluphone or pagers to more opening range. Which i haven't try that yet. Beside I own SK2. I'm sure everbody wants our celluphones or pdas have roaming/range all the time than no service. I'm consider becuz of emergency as needed.

08-23-2005, 09:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
SherryCherish Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,550	Tmobile don't have much roaming, and i did called tmobile yesterday, and they don't have any extended antanne for sidekick II. Oh well, that's life.

10-02-2005, 05:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
cando Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 15	Treo DOES have relay without using terminal. Same with Blackberry. It's on the internet using the browser. Just go to www.iptty.net. Here's another little known fact... both have free tty direct calling from same site.

10-18-2005, 07:28 AM	#26 (permalink)
bigredgpk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1	The Treo is the shit... I've had the 180/270/600/ and 650 all on T-Mo. Best damn device i've ever had. My 650 run's circles around my gf's SK2. I can do IM, push email with Chatter (and a fastmail account), IM for free with Toccer, killer speed with EDGE!, bluetooth for syncing and using as a wireless modem! The free mail app in the Treo also does MS email so I can use it for work and play :-D I also use TCPMP to play ripped DVD's on my 1gig SD card. Timmay

10-28-2005, 08:49 PM	#28 (permalink)
apathrev Guest Posts: n/a	Well by now, I've obviously decided to go with the Sidekick II. The Treo looks like a great device, but for the extra money, I'm not sure. The Sidekick serves me perfectly. Plus I've heard of the Treos being plagued with malfunctions. So much in fact, that users have filed a major lawsuit.