Obama ASL - Page 3

**KarissaMann05** · 03-23-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Palin signed "Thank you" at the end of her Republican National Convention speech. Even a few "ILY" signs during her campaigning, too. Nice but still pandering.

But, that is a soldier gesture for "Thank You"... Not actual ASL "Thank You".

But I do remember Sarah Plain, through I was thought it was great to see her used it. But it seems everyone hates her. So, it is probably easy to forget her...

Frisky Feline · 03-23-2012, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CSign

My perspective is it must have been a slow news day, because Obama signing "thank you" isn't a news story.

if it were you who didnt have a deaf son, and you would not know sign at all. someone show you how to sign and you would use "thank you" as one sign you already know and you would sign it over and over which is your news story like every hearing people do.

**Reba** · 03-23-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

But, that is a soldier gesture for "Thank You"... Not actual ASL "Thank You"....

What is "a soldier gesture for 'Thank You'"? Can you describe it?

kokonut · 03-23-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

But, that is a soldier gesture for "Thank You"... Not actual ASL "Thank You".

But I do remember Sarah Plain, through I was thought it was great to see her used it. But it seems everyone hates her. So, it is probably easy to forget her...

Almost, she did both. First the "soldier thank you" and then after that the sign language "thank you" all in a space of several seconds. At approximately 39:14 into the video you can see her sign exactly the same signing motion as in the Gratitude Campaign by signing "Thank you" which matched with what she was saying to the crowd (or perhaps to troops or deaf people?). But at 39:19 she signs "Thank you" as one would sign in ASL and you can briefly see her mouth the words "Thank you" right before the camera pulled away from her.

You Tube

kokonut · 03-23-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

What is "a soldier gesture for 'Thank You'"? Can you describe it?

the gratitude campaign (short) - YouTube

With 1.7 million hits, too.

C.C.Sinned · 03-23-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Almost, she did both. First the "soldier thank you" and then after that the sign language "thank you" all in a space of several seconds. {*snip*}

and that lead to continuous mockery by some of the very same people, that are now outraged by the fact, some of us see obama's breif use of a sign as nothing more than pandering.

**Reba** · 03-23-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

With 1.7 million hits, too.

Oh, I've seen that video before. That's a thank you tothe soldiers.

Karissa posted about a "a soldier gesture for 'Thank You,'" so I thought she meant it was a gesture that soldiers used to thank other people.

Maybe the one in your video is what she meant.

kokonut · 03-23-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

I'll vote Obama if he do the sign language, more than a sentence. No matter if he destroy America. Serious....

I don't want to see people lose their jobs or careers, houses, their livelihoods and us becoming a 2nd rate country. Not worth it.

kokonut · 03-23-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by C.C.Sinned

and that lead to continuous mockery by some of the very same people, that are now outraged by the fact, some of us see obama's breif use of a sign as nothing more than pandering.

Oh, yeah, there was a huge stink by some in the Deaf community over the "thank you" gesture for soldiers. It was completely unnecessary to go over board on that one.

the gratitude campaign: faqs comments

Click on "That's not ASL."

**Reba** · 03-23-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Oh, yeah, there was a huge stink by some in the Deaf community over the "thank you" gesture for soldiers. It was completely unnecessary to go over board on that one.

the gratitude campaign: faqs comments

Click on "That's not ASL."

Interesting comments.

PowerON · 03-23-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

I don't want to see people lose their jobs or careers, houses, their livelihoods and us becoming a 2nd rate country. Not worth it.

I was joking...

**KarissaMann05** · 03-23-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

What is "a soldier gesture for 'Thank You'"? Can you describe it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

Almost, she did both. First the "soldier thank you" and then after that the sign language "thank you" all in a space of several seconds. At approximately 39:14 into the video you can see her sign exactly the same signing motion as in the Gratitude Campaign by signing "Thank you" which matched with what she was saying to the crowd (or perhaps to troops or deaf people?). But at 39:19 she signs "Thank you" as one would sign in ASL and you can briefly see her mouth the words "Thank you" right before the camera pulled away from her.

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Originally Posted by kokonut

With 1.7 million hits, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

Oh, I've seen that video before. That's a thank you tothe soldiers.

Karissa posted about a "a soldier gesture for 'Thank You,'" so I thought she meant it was a gesture that soldiers used to thank other people.

Maybe the one in your video is what she meant.

Yes, Koko just explained what I mean. Also,

Koko for a few corrects.

CSign · 03-23-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

if it were you who didnt have a deaf son, and you would not know sign at all. someone show you how to sign and you would use "thank you" as one sign you already know and you would sign it over and over which is your news story like every hearing people do.

? Huh?

I guess we have a different definition of what constitutes "news". This isn't about being d/Deaf or hearing. It's great Obama signed, "thank you". Kudos to him. My impression was that it was more of a perfunctory act rather than one with deep meaning. Just my opinion. Everyone will perceive it how they choose.

purplewowies · 03-23-2012, 11:46 AM

I love the reporter's ignorance! It's a bit funny.

"OMG He'll get the deaf vote for sure! (Because he can sign thank you, therefore he MUST know ASL!)"

And Michelle "conversing comfortably" was her voicing "I know" and then showing that she could say "My name is Michelle" in SEE.

Which, you know, is more than just "thanks" but not exactly fluency.

jazzy · 03-23-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Different experiences I guess. I get signed to by hearing people daily. It's nice that they make an effort...but I still don't see anything "wow" about it.

Maybe because their signing mean nothing to you as I have with my customers. Some of them were thrilled to use sign with me because it is rare for them to meet any deaf people. I am rural carrier so they try to communicate with me so simple sign thank you is big A plus for me and give me big smile.

jazzy · 03-23-2012, 05:16 PM

I have taught some hearing people some sign so they can communicate with me and others. Not need a ASL classes for them, ASL classes are more alike for people who want to focus on Deaf studies or as foreign language. OBama does not need to take ASL classes, he can learn some sign from us. We are their teachers.

**TXgolfer** · 03-23-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

Maybe because their signing mean nothing to you as I have with my customers.

Guess you missed the "nice"

Grayma · 03-23-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

That's because the one that knows Spanish was welcoming illegals as they crossed the Mexican border.

BTW, my comment was a joke. I can see you are open minded and non-defensive towards the Conservative side. Keep promoting your brand of politician. I will trust your judgment.

I'm a Libertarian. I haven't voted for a Republican candidate for a major office for a while now.

Grayma · 03-23-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

But, that is a soldier gesture for "Thank You"... Not actual ASL "Thank You".

But I do remember Sarah Plain, through I was thought it was great to see her used it. But it seems everyone hates her. So, it is probably easy to forget her...

I would not be surprised if she learned a few signs to use with her own baby, since he has Down Syndrome.

**saywhatkid** · 03-24-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Grayma

I'm a Libertarian. I haven't voted for a Republican candidate for a major office for a while now.

How is that working out for you?

**Jiro** · 03-24-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CSign

? Huh?

I guess we have a different definition of what constitutes "news". This isn't about being d/Deaf or hearing. It's great Obama signed, "thank you". Kudos to him. My impression was that it was more of a perfunctory act rather than one with deep meaning. Just my opinion. Everyone will perceive it how they choose.

Let me help you to understand. When a prominent person like the President of United States say a couple of words in a language that is not widely known, it would be "news" to those who know the language.

**saywhatkid** · 03-24-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Let me help you to understand. When a prominent person like the President of United States say a couple of words in a language that is not widely known, it would be "news" to those who know the language.

Yes, similar to "Home of Joe Blow" signs you sometimes see when you get to a small town. It creates a sense of acceptance.

Since I recall that C-Sign was an advocate of SEE, I wonder if she would be thrilled to see Obama tell a story using SEE.

CSign · 03-25-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Let me help you to understand. When a prominent person like the President of United States say a couple of words in a language that is not widely known, it would be "news" to those who know the language.

Ok

CSign · 03-25-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Yes, similar to "Home of Joe Blow" signs you sometimes see when you get to a small town. It creates a sense of acceptance.

Since I recall that C-Sign was an advocate of SEE, I wonder if she would be thrilled to see Obama tell a story using SEE.

SWK, it seems you might be a bit confused.

I'm not an advocate for SEE. I'm an advocate for a visual mode of communication.

Also, it was reportedly Michelle Obama who told a story in SEE. I haven't seen it, so whether or not it was actually SEE rather than PSE, I couldn't say. In either case, I certainly don't find it to be "thrilling". I reserve that word for experiences such as skydiving and crazy roller coasters.

PowerON · 03-26-2012, 08:29 AM

Sam and Obama in ASL - YouTube

rolling7 · 03-26-2012, 08:49 AM

There are many, many colleges and some high schools that have their own sport team "sign".
Years ago the blacks had a "sign" for Black Power and the deaf had one for Deaf Power.
There are "thumb-up" and "thumb-down" and "ok/good"and etc.
All of these are not news worthy, even where a president uses them.

At the many, many deaf socials I attend in Houston, the most frequent requested sign from the waitstaff is "thank you".........by the end of the evening the of the restaurant knows it..
This is no big deal to me nor the deaf at the socials.

UNYTruthHunters · 04-03-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Not going to make me vote for him. I never voted him and will NOT vote for him. End of story.

I have the feeling that 20 years later, he will realize that this is just meaningless.

I will vote one who don't believe in big government, big brother, and MIND their own business about American's lives. I would easily vote one who believes in preservance of freedom. Right now the freedom is GONE

AYE!! I agree with you! This is what UPNYTH is all about! Vote him out!!!

UNYTruthHunters · 04-03-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

There are many, many colleges and some high schools that have their own sport team "sign".
Years ago the blacks had a "sign" for Black Power and the deaf had one for Deaf Power.
There are "thumb-up" and "thumb-down" and "ok/good"and etc.
All of these are not news worthy, even where a president uses them.

At the many, many deaf socials I attend in Houston, the most frequent requested sign from the waitstaff is "thank you".........by the end of the evening the of the restaurant knows it..
This is no big deal to me nor the deaf at the socials.

You know that the Roman Empire had some sort of sign language? The people watching Christians and the Jews and the Weaks get mauled to death and they would follow their Emperiors/Ceasars hand sign thump up or down. Usually down. Winners of Gladator fights usually get thump up or no vote (thump goes sideway).

They also used fist on chest as meaning of loyality or salute. But also they do that fist on chest and fists out (almost like Hitler's Heil Hitler salute) meaning they obey.

Hand on chest OR hands resting at chest is another thing.. not fist signal, it means they are Senators or the upper class or they are called social class (not to be confused with modern day lower class). Hand on lap means confined.

This gave away to modern day Italian hand signs. I usually do that when I talk because I am Italian (actually Roman because my grandparents came over to NYC before Italy became country legally in 1917).

(hand sign thump up)

Figure that out! Hahha.

UNYTruthHunters · 04-03-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

I have taught some hearing people some sign so they can communicate with me and others. Not need a ASL classes for them, ASL classes are more alike for people who want to focus on Deaf studies or as foreign language. OBama does not need to take ASL classes, he can learn some sign from us. We are their teachers.

If you say so, then teach him to QUIT his political office right now! Let's do it!

Mimsy · 09-26-2012, 04:45 PM

I just thought this was cool.

President Obama Signs To Deaf Fan - YouTube

03-23-2012, 11:46 AM	#74 (permalink)
purplewowies Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 186	I love the reporter's ignorance! It's a bit funny. "OMG He'll get the deaf vote for sure! (Because he can sign thank you, therefore he MUST know ASL!)" And Michelle "conversing comfortably" was her voicing "I know" and then showing that she could say "My name is Michelle" in SEE. Which, you know, is more than just "thanks" but not exactly fluency. airportcop and Grayma like this.

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jazzy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High desert in Calif Posts: 4,208	I have taught some hearing people some sign so they can communicate with me and others. Not need a ASL classes for them, ASL classes are more alike for people who want to focus on Deaf studies or as foreign language. OBama does not need to take ASL classes, he can learn some sign from us. We are their teachers. __________________

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03-26-2012, 08:49 AM	#86 (permalink)
rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	There are many, many colleges and some high schools that have their own sport team "sign". Years ago the blacks had a "sign" for Black Power and the deaf had one for Deaf Power. There are "thumb-up" and "thumb-down" and "ok/good"and etc. All of these are not news worthy, even where a president uses them. At the many, many deaf socials I attend in Houston, the most frequent requested sign from the waitstaff is "thank you".........by the end of the evening the of the restaurant knows it.. This is no big deal to me nor the deaf at the socials.