The Last Stand for the Deaf in California - Page 8

katz4life · 08-27-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Spoken language is not fully accessible to deaf children. That's why the parents must learn ASL too. Stop putting all the responsibility on the children..parents need to do their part as well. That's the problem.

That's why I thanked my parents for this.

katz4life · 08-27-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Many of my deaf friends, including my brother, came from families who dont sign but still were able to achieve fluency in English.

My son's deaf friend is from a hearing family and they learned ASL as soon as they found out that she was deaf at a year old. Her language fluency is 2 years above normal despite having parents who just learned ASL.

Both the parents and the schools played an important role. If the parents arent actively involved or the child is missing out in the classroom due to not having a visual language, the risks for language delays increase.

My bf's two Deaf female classmates graduated at the age of 16 from Deaf residental school and one of them has 99 percent perfect in English and she now is a teacher for deaf children at a school in AZ. Both of them comes from strong Deaf family especially their Deaf parents. They're both the same age as I, and they're too brillant women.

katz4life · 08-27-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

It seems to me that she wants to spend a lot of time finding faults with Deaf schools and the staff who work there.

kokonut · 08-27-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Last I heard, this bill passed late today in Sacramento by a count of 22 to 11.

Passed concurrence, 59 to 1. Bill now goes to the Governator's desk for his signature (signs on the dotted line...."X").

AlleyCat · 08-27-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by faire_jour

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That is if the family works their butt off to learn ASL right from the start. The problem is that it taked 5-7 years to become fluent in a language. In the meantime the child struggles and falls behind in ASL. Plus, even if a family gets a good working knowledge of ASL, they will never be native users and will always shave struggles with the language barrier.
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Where do you get this? Please don't tell me you found this in a book or something. One thing we've discussed so much on this forum is that there is no one size fits all, that everyone is different. So if a book or some research paper tells you this, you have to take that with a grain of salt. I can say with certainty that just about everyone that is close to me (family, SO, close friends, etc.) became fluent in FAR LESS time, and judging from the posts I've read succeeding yours, others agree. It makes me think that's why you were pooh-pooing the idea of learning sign from books, online, videos, etc. in other threads. Are you thinking it's just too much work for too long to make the effort?

katz4life · 08-27-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

This year alone, we got 14 new students transferring from the public schools after falling behind. Almost all of them have CIs. Fj..pls explain how it is the Deaf school's fault? Think about it.

Wow...serious? That's so sad.

Bebonang · 08-27-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

I don't know. Foreign object left in the body is not what I wanted.

I was thinking about what you said. Maybe that is why I don't want the government and the Assembly to give out brochures to the newly parents of deaf children about CI. What would happen if the child later could not hear with the CI because it does not work? That would mean more money to cut up again and take the non-working device out of the cochlear. With the hearing aids, a parent can change another devices (another brands)? Beside babies and little toddlers are too young and they should enjoy their babyhood into childhood without having the CI. Hearing aid is the best thing. Nobody like having the CI device leave in the cochlear if that does not work at all. How about it, eh?

**Foxrac** · 08-27-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

This year alone, we got 14 new students transferring from the public schools after falling behind. Almost all of them have CIs. Fj..pls explain how it is the Deaf school's fault? Think about it.

Yup, I do know some kids with CI go to ASD after don't well in hearing school.

**deafskeptic** · 08-27-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LinuxGold

OFC, overnight is *I*m*p*o*SS*i*B*L*e*!

Then why are you arguing with us? What are you trying to achieve here? You are doing the right thing right now.

I've been wondering that for a while now. I also think FJ is doing the right thing too so I don't get this.

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