Dumped ...Because she's deaf

Miss-Delectable · 07-05-2008, 09:52 AM

Dumped ...Because she's deaf - Brighouse Today

A ROAD safety campaigner and volunteer for almost 40 years has been told she can no longer do the job she loves because she is deaf.

Mrs Ann Rutherford is upset and angry after being told her services as a lollipop lady and a volunteer cycle training instructor were not needed.
She admits she has a hearing problem but has had two modern digital hearing aids fitted and hospital specialists have confirmed her hearing is more than adequate for the job.

But council bosses say she cannot continue because of the risk to children and herself.

Mrs Rutherford, chairman of Brighouse Road Safety Committee, has run voluntary children's cycling proficiency classes for 35 years. And for 10 years she has worked for the council's road safety unit as a lollipop lady.
Because of the decision she says hundreds of children who would have benefited from free cycling lessons this summer have missed out.

Mrs Rutherford, 71, of Southowram, claims there is no reason why she should not do the job. She is now seeking legal advice to see whether she has a case for discrimination.

Bottesini · 07-05-2008, 09:54 AM

That is stupid. If a lollipop lady means a crossing guard, deaf people are usually more observant anyway.

IslandBreeze07 · 07-05-2008, 11:09 AM

This sux. It's very hard to fight some ppl on this stuff.

After being a air cargo security supervisor for over two years, you'd think I'd get a shot at the same job with the company next to us....I aced the interview. My reputation was solid at MIA BUT the flight safety director with the new company cited the FAA regulations. Yea, right!

So the guy who interviewed me was real sorry he could not give me the job. He had high hopes of having me do the same thing for him.The company I worked for went down the tubes. Even the new security director who replaced the guy wanted me also, but the flight safety director was still there. Shoot!

This is further proof of "It's not what you know, it's who you know that gets you the job" AND if someone within the company wants someone else, reasons would be given to manipulate the process so the desired person would get the job.

CrzyMeg · 07-05-2008, 11:20 AM

I don't like to be rejected!

shel90 · 07-05-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

I don't like to be rejected!

That's the cruel reality of being in the hearing world. I am 36 years old and I have been rejected and discriminated by the hearing world too many times. That's why I prefer to be more involved with the Deaf community.

CrzyMeg · 07-05-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

That's the cruel reality of being in the hearing world. I am 36 years old and I have been rejected and discriminated by the hearing world too many times. That's why I prefer to be more involved with the Deaf community.

Well, lucky me, i havent be rejected yet. So many people like me and how i do my job.

shel90 · 07-05-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

Well, lucky me, i havent be rejected yet. So many people like me and how i do my job.

Yea, so by fully mainstreaming me didnt do much for me, didnt it? What's the point of being mainstreamed fully if I am going to get discriminated or rejected anyway?

CrzyMeg · 07-05-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Yea, so by fully mainstreaming me didnt do much for me, didnt it? What's the point of being mainstreamed fully if I am going to get discriminated or rejected anyway.

You have point but uh... at least you know how they think.

jillio · 07-05-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

Well, lucky me, i havent be rejected yet. So many people like me and how i do my job.

If you don't mind me asking, Meggie, what kind of work do you do?

NickCameron1031 · 07-05-2008, 11:54 AM

I agree with Shel, I was mainstreamed, never taught ASL, had some residual hearing and pretty much faked hearing for a long time. When my residual hearing left and I had to simply rely on lip reading, I was rejected, fired, had a job requirement re-written so I couldnt do and lots of other things. Its sick, it doesnt help to know how they (hearing) think, if they are uncomfortable with Deaf people they will find a way, a legal way to get rid of you.

CrzyMeg · 07-05-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

If you don't mind me asking, Meggie, what kind of work do you do?

Mostly volunteering, They love me so much. I love to hang with little kids. I couldn't help it. I counld not say no to volunteering in this area. My family know that.

Nightblade08 · 07-05-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

Mostly volunteering, They love me so much. I love to hang with little kids. I couldn't help it. I counld not say no to volunteering in this area. My family know that.

Sometimes you did said no for some reason.

CrzyMeg · 07-05-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightblade08

Sometimes you did said no for some reason.

Only if someone is in a need. Like family.

shel90 · 07-05-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

Mostly volunteering, They love me so much. I love to hang with little kids. I couldn't help it. I counld not say no to volunteering in this area. My family know that.

How would you feel if one day, they decided they ddidnt need you anymore because you are deaf?

CrzyMeg · 07-05-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

How would you feel if one day, they decided they ddidnt need you anymore because you are deaf?

Well. I dont have to worry about that. Do I? I am sure I will be fine.

shel90 · 07-05-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

Well. I dont have to worry about that. Do I? I am sure I will be fine.

Never mind..was trying to engage in a discussion.

CrzyMeg · 07-05-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Never mind..was trying to engage in a discussion.

I see. I just knw that I will be fine. But I am not good getting engage in a discussion.

pek1 · 07-05-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NickCameron1031

I agree with Shel, I was mainstreamed, never taught ASL, had some residual hearing and pretty much faked hearing for a long time. When my residual hearing left and I had to simply rely on lip reading, I was rejected, fired, had a job requirement re-written so I couldnt do and lots of other things. Its sick, it doesnt help to know how they (hearing) think, if they are uncomfortable with Deaf people they will find a way, a legal way to get rid of you.

I can't even get a job driving a truck anymore and this is how it's been for me, same as above. Totally unbelieveable!

web730 · 07-06-2008, 03:01 AM

Yep, it's so stupid and absurd!

Last month my friend who works at a plant for years and was told he cannot do forklifting anymore which he did excellent at for years. They claimed it was from the OSCA (not sure right abbrev?) but claimed that deaf employee cannot forklift.

He then fought and called for a help to solve it out which it finally did clear him. So he continues forklifting which is cool.

He said that even some hearing workers did careless at forklifting which caused some damages which he (deaf) never did for years. Oh boy!

It's clear enough it had to be some deaf discrimination done, sort of at least. I have experienced some in the past, too so did many out there like you did.

Shame!

jillio · 07-06-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

Well. I dont have to worry about that. Do I? I am sure I will be fine.

Actually Meggie, you do need to worry about that. And more than worrying about loosing your volunteer position....which is not covered under the ADA and for which an employer does not have to provide accommodations, you need to worry about whether you will be able to find a job in the future that will allow you to support yourself. Once the employer is in a position of providing accommodations, as in paid employment, they become much more reluctant to hire anyone with a disability.

It would be great if the world was all sunshine and roses and you, at your young age, still believe. But there is a whole wide world of difficulties out there that you are likely to encounter as you get older. Denying that they exist will not prepare you to deal with them.

katie2d · 07-06-2008, 09:33 AM

This stuff happens in the hearing world to hearing people too and it sucks. I wonder if there is a way you could all get together in some sort of lawsuit. How about the ACLU, would that help? I know at some of the jobs I've had, I've gotten in trouble for training people to do things that had them dealing with the public and management wanted them kept hidden away. They didn't present the image that the big bosses wanted. Sick.

jazzy · 07-06-2008, 11:17 AM

I am surprised they hired me to deliver the mails and drive their LLV. Hopefully they continue to hire more deaf to drive thier LLV in the future.

IslandBreeze07 · 07-06-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Actually Meggie, you do need to worry about that. And more than worrying about loosing your volunteer position....which is not covered under the ADA and for which an employer does not have to provide accommodations, you need to worry about whether you will be able to find a job in the future that will allow you to support yourself. Once the employer is in a position of providing accommodations, as in paid employment, they become much more reluctant to hire anyone with a disability.

It would be great if the world was all sunshine and roses and you, at your young age, still believe. But there is a whole wide world of difficulties out there that you are likely to encounter as you get older. Denying that they exist will not prepare you to deal with them.

katie2d · 07-06-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

I am surprised they hired me to deliver the mails and drive their LLV. Hopefully they continue to hire more deaf to drive thier LLV in the future.

I am not surprised. deaf people are very good drivers. they tend to pay attention to the road more.

horselover61 · 07-06-2008, 01:37 PM

I did apply a job for a bus driver. But no they dont hire deaf ppl. Duh I remmy when I was younger and my aunt offer me to teach me to drive a bus. Sure I know a owner of the bus company willing to let me drive but I decided not to. Duh me but at least I am still here and alive.

CrzyMeg · 07-06-2008, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Actually Meggie, you do need to worry about that. And more than worrying about loosing your volunteer position....which is not covered under the ADA and for which an employer does not have to provide accommodations, you need to worry about whether you will be able to find a job in the future that will allow you to support yourself. Once the employer is in a position of providing accommodations, as in paid employment, they become much more reluctant to hire anyone with a disability.

It would be great if the world was all sunshine and roses and you, at your young age, still believe. But there is a whole wide world of difficulties out there that you are likely to encounter as you get older. Denying that they exist will not prepare you to deal with them.

I not deny of difficulties out there in the world but I volunteers in many different places. But things could be impossible but with HIM, everything is possible. But I understand what you are saying though. You do have a point but what if a person already have resume and things that require for a job all in a folder? Like I have. My teacher help me with that.

07-05-2008, 09:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
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07-05-2008, 09:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
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07-05-2008, 11:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
NickCameron1031 Waiting for CI activation Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Havre de Grace MD Posts: 167	I agree with Shel, I was mainstreamed, never taught ASL, had some residual hearing and pretty much faked hearing for a long time. When my residual hearing left and I had to simply rely on lip reading, I was rejected, fired, had a job requirement re-written so I couldnt do and lots of other things. Its sick, it doesnt help to know how they (hearing) think, if they are uncomfortable with Deaf people they will find a way, a legal way to get rid of you.

07-06-2008, 03:01 AM	#19 (permalink)
web730 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,274	Yep, it's so stupid and absurd! Last month my friend who works at a plant for years and was told he cannot do forklifting anymore which he did excellent at for years. They claimed it was from the OSCA (not sure right abbrev?) but claimed that deaf employee cannot forklift. He then fought and called for a help to solve it out which it finally did clear him. So he continues forklifting which is cool. He said that even some hearing workers did careless at forklifting which caused some damages which he (deaf) never did for years. Oh boy! It's clear enough it had to be some deaf discrimination done, sort of at least. I have experienced some in the past, too so did many out there like you did. Shame!

07-06-2008, 09:33 AM	#21 (permalink)
katie2d Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 156	This stuff happens in the hearing world to hearing people too and it sucks. I wonder if there is a way you could all get together in some sort of lawsuit. How about the ACLU, would that help? I know at some of the jobs I've had, I've gotten in trouble for training people to do things that had them dealing with the public and management wanted them kept hidden away. They didn't present the image that the big bosses wanted. Sick.

07-06-2008, 01:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
horselover61 Neigh!!! Neigh!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,224 Blog Entries: 2	I did apply a job for a bus driver. But no they dont hire deaf ppl. Duh I remmy when I was younger and my aunt offer me to teach me to drive a bus. Sure I know a owner of the bus company willing to let me drive but I decided not to. Duh me but at least I am still here and alive. __________________ Check out my city!! http://furbyland.myminicity.com/