Grayma

Wow, that was a LOT of research and careful investigation. Thanks for sharing it.

Deafness

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TXgolfer

Actually, it's being late-deafened and having no experience in deaf education that allows me to see what I believe is bias. I have no dog in the hunt. But as always, you are entitled to your opinion.

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Foxrac

Yup, thanks...

I have trauma from numerous domestic abuses during 1990's about situation with speech therapy. My grandfather abused me at all time when I was unable to speak orally and turned my hearing aids to max as possible, it has done to damage my hearing so I lost most benefits with hearing aids in 1994. I didn't know how to report to my parent about situation with my grandfather. When my grandfather died in 1995 due to brain/lung cancer so my grandmother decided to nagging with abuse to make me to use oral languages, but she didn't understand about what I am saying. My mother realized that I was hurt from abuses and talked to grandmother about must use sign language. I didn't receive CI until 1999 and it didn't help with oral language, except for saying no so I decided to stopped it for good, along with head injury from skateboard accident renders CI as useless. It was 10 years ago.

Even, prior to enroll at deaf school as 10th grade but my reading level was 3rd grade because I was in special education for rest of my childhood and they were very underperforming. It took years for my reading level went higher to high school level and expert in algebra.

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TXgolfer

You do very well. I've told you this before.

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TWA

Why don't you try learning some ASL and meeting Deaf people?

TXgolfer

A) What does this have to do with the OP?

B) Who says I haven't/I'm not?

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TWA

If you have to ask . . .

If you have, please do share some stories about it. We'd love to hear it. Give the politics room a rest.

TXgolfer

THAT.... is a perfect example of what I am saying.


I do on occasion

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Jiro

where?

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TWA

My response to both of your statements: not really.

TXgolfer

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purplewowies

Update: Bill passed through committee 10-1.

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TXgolfer

Wow!

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purplewowies

Another update: The Senate vote is "likely to be" tomorrow.

TXgolfer

Thanks for the update

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purplewowies

Yet another: Passed 40-8 in Senate. It goes off to the House now, and if it passes, it'll go to Governor Daniels's desk.

DeafCaroline

Did any Deaf representatives show up to speak to the Senate?

Tousi

I think they ignored the "Nothing About Us Without Us" appeals all across the board. Maybe there was a bit of tokenism thrown in......it's a familiar refrain....

TXgolfer

Thanks for the update. When does it go to the house?

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KarissaMann05

If it is actually passed, I am strongly positive that it will discourage ASL... but whatever.

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TXgolfer

I hope not. I hope it will work in a way that will be best for everyone.

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Foxrac

Whatever bill passes, I'm not interested to live in Indiana, anyway.

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Foxrac

Yup, it is sad about future deaf children won't use ASL, unless they are from deaf families.

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Tousi

Doesn't matter; you should still be concerned because this will spread to other States....already has in some form or other....

purplewowies

Wow... I commented on Hear Indiana's Facebook wall, mildly criticizing their tone, which I believed to be a bit overzealous, and followed the criticizing comment with a "no offense."

And now my comment is gone and I appear to be blocked from commenting at all.

If the other mysteriously missing comments are anything like mine, then they're even more biased than I previously thought (and I thought they were pretty biased before).

Wow, just wow.

deafdyke

Yes indeedy. Sadly oralists are super naive about inclusion and mainstreaming. They think that the reason the previous generation of dhh kids did badly is b/c of TC/ASL. They still seem to think that mainstreamed and oral kids will reap all the advantages of the hearing world. It's SO freaking sad....and even when the evidence is right there in front of them, they still yammer on and on about how inclusion is so wonderful and glorious. ...oh and innovative. Don't forget about innovative.

Tousi

Here's something for you. The Director for Hear Indiana, Naomi Horton is an AVT specialist who has her own AVT business and I am now hearing that she hasn't provided any disclaimer as regards a conflict of interest.

If that isn't enough, she's the one who said, "When kids don't consider themselves deaf, the magic begins".

purplewowies

(^Only because there wasn't a spit take smilie)

Foxrac

Ok, I will be concern about this issue.

Spread to other states? like Utah and California?

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