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Unread 01-30-2012, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best approach to deaf education

What do you feel is the best approach to deaf education? Voice off deaf school? Oral deaf school, mainstream, a combination or something else I haven't mentioned?
I'm currently student teaching in Adolescent Engilsh Edcation. I'm thinking of going into Deaf Education, however. From what knowledge I have, I feel that whether mainstreamed or put in a deaf school, students should have access to both ASL and English (whether the English is written, spoken, or both should depend on the individual). I also feel that mainstream teachers don't have a lot of experience teaching dhh students. We are taught techniques such as move around the classroom during your lesson. If you have a dhh student, you should NOT move around the room while speaking! Also, there is a strong emphasis on speaking skills in the mainstream environment that mainstream teachers have a difficult time deviating from. Based on your own knowledge and experience, what's the best way to educate dhh students?

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Unread 01-30-2012, 06:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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stephaniep21, I added a disclaimer to your thread because this is a hot topic on AllDeaf that usually leads to debating, and sometimes name calling, flaming and banning.

This warning serves for people interested in participating to know that this thread is controversial.
There have been so many fights on here already, why not just advise her to search the wealth of opinion already here on this exact topic?

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stephaniep21, I added a disclaimer to your thread because this is a hot topic on AllDeaf that usually leads to debating, and sometimes name calling, flaming and banning.

This warning serves for people interested in participating to know that this thread is controversial.
No problem. I knew this was a debatable topic, but I didn't realize that discussions would potentially be quite so heated. Thanks for the heads up.
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The bibi approach is the best one. Deaf children get the est of both.
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The bibi approach is the best one. Deaf children get the est of both.
There we go! Case closed. Time to close up this thread and enjoy rest of the night!
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There we go! Case closed. Time to close up this thread and enjoy rest of the night!
My sentiments exactly!
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^ I want a PICTURE not a ****ing link.



Geez. I guess I'm out of here.
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Excuse my flaming language.
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To the OP: My college has a Deaf Ed major program. We have to take special classes about teaching Deaf children as well as classes about teaching children in general and classes about special education and the core classes like public speaking and the easiest college physics class on the face of the planet. I get to spend my entire sophomore year at a bilingual-bicultural Deaf school, which was part of the reason I picked this college. IMO, bi-bi is best.

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I like what Jiro's suggestion. :peace:
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There have been so many fights on here already, why not just advise her to search the wealth of opinion already here on this exact topic?

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I agree. I wasn't trying to encourage debating at all, it was more of a fair warning enough arguing for all of us, for whomever engages.

Want to help me out with a sticky for this topic?
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I agree. I wasn't trying to encourage debating at all, it was more of a fair warning enough arguing for all of us, for whomever engages.

Want to help me out with a sticky for this topic?
How would I do that?
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How would I do that?
Oh, and it's done. Two threads started in our continuing education department for students of ASL,, or the people who just suddenly developed a burning curiousity about all things deaf.
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No problem. I knew this was a debatable topic, but I didn't realize that discussions would potentially be quite so heated. Thanks for the heads up.
i appreciate that you take it very conerning what is the best approach for deaf kids. i have not been in deaf school or in the deaf education environment for a long time. I do need to get touch of familiarizing with deaf needs all over again. So that way, i can give better feedback for any teachers or aide teacher or any forms of teaching people to deal with deaf/hoh kids.

I admit that I want to know more about how they teach deaf kids.

from my experience, lots of hearing teachers didn't know how to teach deaf kids while i was taught by a deaf teacher and i understood clearly. Oh yea I had a CODA teacher and it is also good. I dont know why most hearing teachers who want to work with deaf school and dont know how to teach. that's where it hits me hard. maybe that was in 70s 80s 90s?? i hope for 2012 those teachers have more familiar with what deaf/hoh kids' thinking methods.

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What do you feel is the best approach to deaf education? Voice off deaf school? Oral deaf school, mainstream, a combination or something else I haven't mentioned?
I'm currently student teaching in Adolescent Engilsh Edcation. I'm thinking of going into Deaf Education, however. From what knowledge I have, I feel that whether mainstreamed or put in a deaf school, students should have access to both ASL and English (whether the English is written, spoken, or both should depend on the individual). I also feel that mainstream teachers don't have a lot of experience teaching dhh students. We are taught techniques such as move around the classroom during your lesson. If you have a dhh student, you should NOT move around the room while speaking! Also, there is a strong emphasis on speaking skills in the mainstream environment that mainstream teachers have a difficult time deviating from. Based on your own knowledge and experience, what's the best way to educate dhh students?
There is no one best way to teach all deaf children. There are several different approaches thus the goal is to determine which approach best meets the needs of the individual deaf child.

You can certainly move around the classroom while teaching dhh students but as the teacher you should try to look at your students while talking or signing.

Focus on the needs of your students and you will be a successful teacher.
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There is no one best way to teach all deaf children. There are several different approaches thus the goal is to determine which approach best meets the needs of the individual deaf child.

You can certainly move around the classroom while teaching dhh students but as the teacher you should try to look at your students while talking or signing.

Focus on the needs of your students and you will be a successful teacher.
Yes, but how do you differentate that from what the parents want or need?How do you differentate from a parent who is still "grieving the loss" of a "healthy normal hearing" kid and who wants their kid to appear as normal as possible? You also cannot deny that auditory-verbalizing a dhh kid (meaning regular school regular classes with minimal accomondations) means something completely different in an inner city, vs. a good suburban school.
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Yes, but how do you differentate that from what the parents want or need?How do you differentate from a parent who is still "grieving the loss" of a "healthy normal hearing" kid and who wants their kid to appear as normal as possible? You also cannot deny that auditory-verbalizing a dhh kid (meaning regular school regular classes with minimal accomondations) means something completely different in an inner city, vs. a good suburban school.

We are discussing teaching methods for children and if there is a "best" method for all deaf children. I am of the opinion there is no "best" method but the goal is to determine what is best for each individual child. If you agree or disagree fine but I am not discussing the needs of parents so please do not try to turn this into a discussion on a different topic.

Why do you limit the difference between an inner city school and a "good suburban school" to just dhh children? Are you saying that such a difference in placement has no effect on hearing students or students with other special needs?
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We are discussing teaching methods for children and if there is a "best" method for all deaf children. I am of the opinion there is no "best" method but the goal is to determine what is best for each individual child. If you agree or disagree fine but I am not discussing the needs of parents so please do not try to turn this into a discussion on a different topic.

Why do you limit the difference between an inner city school and a "good suburban school" to just dhh children? Are you saying that such a difference in placement has no effect on hearing students or students with other special needs?
Rick, are you suggesting that a school with 253 deaf/hoh students should have 253 different teaching methods?
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