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Unread 09-15-2011, 10:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I can't say they haven't been responsive.

The services (speech and TOD) seem appropriate The accomodations haven't really been tested in practice except for the FM system.

We'll see what happens as I talk with this new IEP team. The only people who remain from last year are the TOD and the district audiologist. Everyone else is new to one another in regard to DS.
Be sure to include social goals in the IEP. This is an area of education that hearing students get. Many deaf children in the mainstream do not. Failure to address social learning skills can often be the impetus to move the child to a specialized deaf placement. Do not let them interpret "peers" as hearing children. Do not let them interpret "least restictive" as being an environment where he cannot communicate with peers and faculty one on one without 3rd party intervention such as a terp. These things will become increasingly inportant as he gets older.
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Unread 09-15-2011, 10:41 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Gotcha. You sound just like my parents. That's about what they said to me, too.
I, personally, take an opposite view. I think the child needs to understand the contention from the outset of his or her educational experience. It is the only way that they will pick up self advocacy skills. Attending their IEP gives a child a view of his deafness from the perspective of the "others". And he/she needs to have that sort of empathetic understanding of the ways in which people make determinations for him/her and abour him/her based on the deafness. That is how they learn what they need to advocate.

Is a group of hearing people sitting around discussing a deaf child's future academic environment something that child needs to be protected from? I think not. And to see them as needing protection in those circumstances is patronizing and disabling.
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Unread 09-16-2011, 10:42 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Be sure to include social goals in the IEP. This is an area of education that hearing students get. Many deaf children in the mainstream do not. Failure to address social learning skills can often be the impetus to move the child to a specialized deaf placement. Do not let them interpret "peers" as hearing children. Do not let them interpret "least restictive" as being an environment where he cannot communicate with peers and faculty one on one without 3rd party intervention such as a terp. These things will become increasingly inportant as he gets older.
Thank you for bringing this up. I don't think there are any social goals in there right now & that is definitely one of my concerns.

Especially since a classmate just punched him in the face yesterday morning.
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Unread 09-16-2011, 11:25 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Thank you for bringing this up. I don't think there are any social goals in there right now & that is definitely one of my concerns.

Especially since a classmate just punched him in the face yesterday morning.
That's horrible! I'm so sorry to hear that. Did the child have an appropriate consequence?

I hope your little guy is ok...
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Unread 09-16-2011, 11:41 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Rivenoak, you can call in a meeting any time to make adjustments to the IEP. It's a living legal document, and it can be modified when appropriate, when there is a committee. Sometimes I'm amazed how seldom the schools I've worked in change the IEP goals in the middle of the school year because goals often do need adjustments. I often get the "dirty look" when I want to get a new meeting to develop/change/add/delete goals and objectives...but there are times that it needs to be done. Nothing wrong with it at all.
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Unread 09-16-2011, 01:20 PM   #36 (permalink)
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We have an IEP meeting set for Oct 5. It's hard to get everyone's schedules coordinated!

It's after school, so will be very easy to bring DS. If he really doesn't like being there, his after school program is available. But, if he can sit through a house closing, he can probably take some interest in a meeting where I will ask him to talk a bit.

DS is ok after the punch. He had a bloody nose of some sort and has a small bruise on his cheekbone. It was minor, thank goodness.

From what I can piece together, DS' hearing loss may have contributed to the situation.

I don't know the exact consequence given to the other student. DH is the one who spoke w/ the school & I'm awaiting clarification. Based on the classification of the incident, it could be up to a suspension of some kind. It could have been as small as a talk with the principal. (DH just texted me & said school cannot tell us that the punishment is.)

While talking w/ DS last night, DH & I found out that he's made a couple trips down to the principal's office, of which we were not previously aware. So, we need to hammer out a timely and descriptive feedback method for DS' behavior.
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Thank you for bringing this up. I don't think there are any social goals in there right now & that is definitely one of my concerns.

Especially since a classmate just punched him in the face yesterday morning.
Oh no! I'm so sorry. My daughter, along with several others, was repeatedly bitten by a schoolmate. It took some extreme self control and husband control to restrain ourselves from tracking down the anonymous but hopefully not rapid perpetrator and delivering consequences of our own. Now our little one is moving rapidly along the kungfu learning curve, so I'm hoping her blocking skills will serve her well if such a thing ever occurs again.

Hope the little guy heals quickly!
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Unread 09-16-2011, 02:17 PM   #38 (permalink)
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We have an IEP meeting set for Oct 5. It's hard to get everyone's schedules coordinated!

It's after school, so will be very easy to bring DS. If he really doesn't like being there, his after school program is available. But, if he can sit through a house closing, he can probably take some interest in a meeting where I will ask him to talk a bit.

DS is ok after the punch. He had a bloody nose of some sort and has a small bruise on his cheekbone. It was minor, thank goodness.

From what I can piece together, DS' hearing loss may have contributed to the situation.

I don't know the exact consequence given to the other student. DH is the one who spoke w/ the school & I'm awaiting clarification. Based on the classification of the incident, it could be up to a suspension of some kind. It could have been as small as a talk with the principal. (DH just texted me & said school cannot tell us that the punishment is.)

While talking w/ DS last night, DH & I found out that he's made a couple trips down to the principal's office, of which we were not previously aware. So, we need to hammer out a timely and descriptive feedback method for DS' behavior.
Does he take karate? It seems like it would be a good idea.
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Unread 09-16-2011, 04:48 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Does he take karate? It seems like it would be a good idea.


He would really like to take karate. He likes looking into the karate class window on the way to swim.

I will look again into signing up for it. He has said he wants to do it. I think he figures it's all about learning to kick and punch; the respect and self control needed might surprise him. And those are good lessons to reinforce.
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Unread 09-17-2011, 05:06 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Think I was 11 at my first IEP meeting that I attended, had to attend every year but never understood what it was for, and I just had to sit all the way through and not say anything LOL
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I didnt reply but hey.. I went to i think ALL of my IEP's. Including the seven hour one that pretty much almost ended up in a fist fight....

I'm glad I got the chance to participate in them... The ball got rolling down the hill much better with ME taking more part of them...
I thank goodness that my parents made it clear for me what was what, etc, throughout the process....
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6th grade and inceasing voice each iep. My final IEP i had complete control over my "goals" for the year and accommodations.
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When i was in Middle School or High School around i went IEP meeting due i had classes in morning and i got little skip class..

I would remind that IEP meeting for longtimes
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Be sure to include social goals in the IEP. This is an area of education that hearing students get. Many deaf children in the mainstream do not. Failure to address social learning skills can often be the impetus to move the child to a specialized deaf placement. Do not let them interpret "peers" as hearing children. Do not let them interpret "least restictive" as being an environment where he cannot communicate with peers and faculty one on one without 3rd party intervention such as a terp. These things will become increasingly inportant as he gets older.
Actually I would say that almost all deaf children in the mainstream tend to have major social issues. Heck even Clarke that bastian of oralism grudgingly admits that almost all dhh kids have major major social issues.
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Unread 09-19-2011, 04:28 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Either I didn't attend any of my IEP meetings or I didn't know what I was there for or what was going on to know that it was an IEP meeting and what that meant. I did find the documents from those meetings that my parents kept and now I am keeping them, maybe if I read them (I glanced at them once), they will give me a clue.

If I didn't attend, I wish I did and had a voice/vote and knew what I know now.
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Unread 09-19-2011, 07:40 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Thank you for bringing this up. I don't think there are any social goals in there right now & that is definitely one of my concerns.

Especially since a classmate just punched him in the face yesterday morning.
Already? Dang!! Sounds like maybe another kid needs to have social goals addressed more than your kid!
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Already? Dang!! Sounds like maybe another kid needs to have social goals addressed more than your kid!
Oh boy....already social issues? That's a HUGE red flag.....
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I never had an iep meeting when in school.
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