lucky loser

Hi guys so my spell check is broken so bear with me
I have to see the TOD tomorrow so i thought i'd ask what accomadations others have.
I have a teacher aid or notetaker an request like in music we are doing arul skills (listening skills) and i can't listen to the instraments and figer out what the note is so i can ask for a teacher aid
I can also request help on a test if i need it example in jap we have listening tests the teacher will tell me before hand and i can ask the learning support center to provide a teacher aid and i'll do the test in another room where it's quite and 1 on 1.
Most of the time i just depend on my ci and fm but if my fm breaks i can get a loner from learning support
Also if i feel i'm falling behind in a class i can be taken out of that class for 1 lesson for a catch up session
this is all set up so i don't need to have a teacher aid in all my classes because in some classes i don't need help and some i only need help some times so a full time teacher aid or note talker is pointless

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AlleyCat

Do you have to take music classes? I don't know if you are in the US. All my music/band classes were waived in favor of anything else -- study hall, gym, etc. Do you get any benefit out of taking these music classes?

Reba

I've interpreted for deaf band students.

Learning music history is part of a well-rounded education.

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Why?

LoveBlue

As an hearie (back in school) I wondered that myself.

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lucky loser

music is cumpusury in year 9

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AlleyCat

Music was required during my school years as well. But as a deaf person, I got that waived without a problem. I would imagine you could get it waived if you felt you were not benefiting from it.

Reba: I can see where you're going with "learning music history is part of a well-rounded education." However, in the case of us who are deaf and can't hear tones, pitch, notes, it's incredibly difficult to fathom playing an instrument. Why would I even consider taking band or music (and when I was referring to music earlier - it was either band or choir. It wasn't music history.) Anyways, that is why I asked the OP if she felt she was getting any benefit out of her "required" music classes.

deafdyke

I remember clearly being in music class, and being PUZZLED as to what the notes even MEANT. I could hear the notes and stuff..........but still don't even know how to read music or anything.
The accomodnatiosn I had were preferential seating, notetakers, and Resource Room study hall as well as special ed math.
And untimed tests on essay exams since it is hard for me to write manually.

Reba

If high school students got to choose only subjects that they felt benefitted them, the curriculum would be very limited.

I said music history. That is, knowing about famous composers, genres of music, how music and culture relate, music vocabulary. None of that requires listening to music.

Why should deaf students be shut out of certain areas of education to which hearing students are exposed?

I don't think deaf students should be forced to take up a musical instrument or join band or choir. Hearing students aren't forced to do that, are they?

However, if a deaf student wants to take up an instrument, he or she should be allowed to, the same as a hearing student.

There are deaf musicians in the world.

Reba

There are a lot of hearing people who can't read music, play an instrument, or carry a tune. That doesn't mean they can't learn about music. That's not the same requirement as performing music.

Reba

So in a conversation, or when they're reading a book, or watching a movie, they can know and understand the references that are made to famous composers, types of music, and vocabulary, without feeling left out.

AlleyCat

Holy cow.

Do we get to choose math, english, history, social studies, government, art, etc. regardless of whether we're deaf or hearing? No. We take these classes because it's an instrumental (no pun intended) part of learning and real-world usage.

Music, however? Entirely another subject.

Hearing makes all the difference in the world when it comes to music, especially if we can't be in speech ranges or understand pitch, tone, on-key, off-key, notes, etc.

For those of us in the severe/profound/total deaf ranges, it's a HUGE thing.

Your blatant disregard of that shocks me, frankly.

You're right, you did say that. And I did say that my school didn't offer music history. Only band or choir. If other schools offer music history, then I stand corrected.

In my school, they were. It was part of keeping with today's standards -- being well-versed in all areas. Perhaps it was different during your time. I did go to a very large high school, so perhaps that school in itself had different requirements, different standards.


Absolutely! But required to?

NO.

AlleyCat

And, you cut my post in half. I was talking about music history in the SAME paragraph.

Reba

Like I posted, there's a difference between learning about music and learning how to perform music.

People learn about art without becoming artists.

Obviously you can't take a course if your school doesn't offer it. That's true for every subject.

I can't speak for all schools.

Some schools offer a choice between taking a music course or an art course.

Maybe. In "my time" I went to two large high schools in California, and two medium size high schools in Connecticut.

I thought in most schools now, music programs were being cut back or cut out because schools needed to cut their budgets. I'm surprised that it's a mandatory course.

lucky loser

we are only learing how to write music by ear so you see my prob i talked to my TOD she said i could just have resouse room time instead of music

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Reba

That seems very strange that they would make you take that kind of course. Sadly, the school year is almost over now. It's too bad you couldn't have been reassigned to some other course at the beginning of the year. A course in art or photography would probably be more interesting and useful than composing music or resource room.

jillio

A music history class, or a music theory class, is a completely different experience than a music performance class. The OP seems to be referring to a music class set around performance.

It would be the same difference between an art appreciation or art history class and a painting class.

Reba

I know. In my first post, I wasn't referring to that student's specific class.

AlleyCat

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lucky loser

term 2 just started it's not even close to the end or the year
no one was noteafied that i cant hear distint music notes they assumed i could because i have a ci

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Reba

It seems that this should have been addressed at the IEP meeting, and when your term schedule was being prepared.

Yes, people make too many assumptions about CI's. I guess you will need to set them straight.

Irish

When I was in school, the only accommodation I had was an interpreter and occasionally, closed captions or subtitles on videos if we had to watch them in class. I didn't have any notetakers. I didn't really need any back then though. Most of the time the teachers never expanded on anything beyond the notes they gave to the class and if they did, I could always read the textbooks or do research on the Internet. My memory and the difficulty level of my classes made it easy for me to just listen to my teacher, do my homework, and get As on the tests. Without much effort. Now for college, that is a different story though.

As for music history/music itself... I did have to take music history in middle school - the way my school did it, we alternated between music history and art classes in 6th and 7th grades. The 8th graders were required to take Home Ed and some completely different course in industrial technology instead. After that, in high school, we had more options. A lot of people did join choir/band but I never did. I didn't even have to be waived out of these classes because it wasn't mandatory for anyone - you could choose to take art classes or other classes instead if you didn't want to join band or choir. I crammed my schedule with lots of art courses because I thought I would major in art in college.