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Unread 01-19-2011, 07:56 PM   #211 (permalink)
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jillo that doesn't surprise me.I think many parents may be well intentioned, but at the same time they may be VERY clueless about dhh related stuff. Or they think that deaf schools and programs are straight out of the 60's. Or they think that all Deaf people think that all dhh kids need to be voice off and go off to res school. Some parents of today might be a bit more down to earth, since they may have witnessed the downsides of mainstreaming and IEPs and stuff, and had exposure to real live dhh people. One of the major things that I absolutly positively HATE is the unspoken insistution that if a dhh kid is oral and mainstreamed, they will reap ALL the benifits of the hearing/mainstream world.
faire joure..regarding the small enrollements in the Option Schools...I was stumbling around last night on the St. Joseph's site. It said that tution can be partly covered (up to 60%) by health insurance. We all know how health insurance benifits have gone down. Even decent health insurance costs a hell of a lot, and may not pay out a lot in benifits. That could be a reason why there's just a small number of kids in the private oral preschools....b/c they represent families with very generous health insurances. That's actually a big reason too why you don't see kids with HAs at oral schools a lot......b/c of health insurance costs. Yes, public benifit and insurance covers kids.....BUT again they want to make sure that public oral programs can educate them,
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Unread 01-19-2011, 08:49 PM   #212 (permalink)
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If we could make a video documentary with experiences shared by deaf people who have been brought up under oralism and the negative effects that comes with it.

I imagine it would have impacted a lot on hearing folks because stories would be quite visual as well the expressions showed.

If one was made then I would love it to be submitted in Cannes film festival and the rest of international film festivals.
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Unread 01-19-2011, 08:51 PM   #213 (permalink)
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If we could make a video documentary with experiences shared by deaf people who have been brought up under oralism and the negative effects that comes with it.

I imagine it would have impacted a lot on hearing folks because stories would be quite visual as well the expressions showed.

If one was made then I would love it to be submitted in Cannes film festival and the rest of international film festivals.
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Unread 01-19-2011, 08:55 PM   #214 (permalink)
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If we could make a video documentary with experiences shared by deaf people who have been brought up under oralism and the negative effects that comes with it.

I imagine it would have impacted a lot on hearing folks because stories would be quite visual as well the expressions showed.

If one was made then I would love it to be submitted in Cannes film festival and the rest of international film festivals.
it was already done. somebody posted it in AD 2 years ago. I couldn't find it
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Unread 01-19-2011, 09:08 PM   #215 (permalink)
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it was already done. somebody posted it in AD 2 years ago. I couldn't find it
Really. It would be nice to have a wider and comprehensive documentary done. Oh well, it was just a thought.
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Unread 01-19-2011, 09:55 PM   #216 (permalink)
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If we could make a video documentary with experiences shared by deaf people who have been brought up under oralism and the negative effects that comes with it.

I imagine it would have impacted a lot on hearing folks because stories would be quite visual as well the expressions showed.

If one was made then I would love it to be submitted in Cannes film festival and the rest of international film festivals.
Excellent idea.
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Unread 01-19-2011, 09:56 PM   #217 (permalink)
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Really. It would be nice to have a wider and comprehensive documentary done. Oh well, it was just a thought.
And aimed directly at hearing parents, including educational concerns throughout the child's school years...not just focused on the very early years as are the implant industry and the oral proponents.
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Unread 01-19-2011, 10:27 PM   #218 (permalink)
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And aimed directly at hearing parents, including educational concerns throughout the child's school years...not just focused on the very early years as are the implant industry and the oral proponents.
Why not to just educate humanity? Hearing parents yes, but that is a very narrow audience.
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Unread 01-19-2011, 10:35 PM   #219 (permalink)
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If we could make a video documentary with experiences shared by deaf people who have been brought up under oralism and the negative effects that comes with it.

I imagine it would have impacted a lot on hearing folks because stories would be quite visual as well the expressions showed.

If one was made then I would love it to be submitted in Cannes film festival and the rest of international film festivals.
We're actually working on that.
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I look forward to this documentary-
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Agreed!!!!!!! Faire joure check out this link: Call for Proposals: 32nd Annual Mainstream Conference
Notice that they have as a possible topic disrepency between written and spoken English.
A lot of kids can speak but their written English is really weird. That is b/c although they can speak, they don't have full command of English.
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Unread 01-20-2011, 07:13 AM   #222 (permalink)
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And aimed directly at hearing parents, including educational concerns throughout the child's school years...not just focused on the very early years as are the implant industry and the oral proponents.
That was the idea I would like to see used in the documentary

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We're actually working on that.
Really? That's great. Would be great to interview deafies from US, UK, Europe, Australia who were taught under Oralism from the 40s,50s and every decades since then because the way they were treated changes every decades.

Also to show a link in decline in deaf's education and jobs was caused by the soul destroying decision by Milan conference 1815. And show that AG Bell wasn't a saint but the father of cultural genocide. But I guess that's best saved for another documentary.

Looking forward to seeing this documentary.
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I actually witnessed an oral-only educator put down the signing deaf kids by telling the oral deaf kids that they dont need to be doing "that thing" with their hands in front of the class.

Think she would have said that if a parent was present? I think not.

*wanted to add* When that happened, I was very very ignorant and still audist with my views on ASL at the time even though I was learning it. I still thought having oral skills was a sign of having superior intelligence. So, no..I didnt speak up at that time. I wish I did. Oh well.
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Why not to just educate humanity? Hearing parents yes, but that is a very narrow audience.
Mostly because of the urgency in hearing parents having the information, given the impact they can have (negatively and positively) on a deaf child's entire life.

But you are correct. Everyone needs to be educated.
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We're actually working on that.
I was going to let you make that statement.
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