cool scary guy

sorry, didn't intend for this to be so long.

There is not a Rosetta stone for sign language so I'm making one. or at least as close as I can get with out braking any copyrights or patents.

I've been working it out for about a month. I have the basic setup working. and will make a working demo this weekend . now is the time for feed back on what you guys think will work best. be fore I make a demo.

Here's what I'm working with so far

1st off this is not going to be an end all ASL program its more for getting your point across.

It will start with a video (probably animated) that shows 4 -8 signs , the English meaning in text and audio.

next 4-8 screens will be flash cards,
.... match the text/audio to sign
..... match the sign to text
...... matching sign to photograph
the screen will not move on unto the right one is clicked

then it will repeat with 4-8 new word . but the flash cards part will have some of the words from the 1st video mixed in.

big differences from Rosetta stone will be
1. Audio will always have matching text.
2. No audio input. .., No signed input.
3. You will be able to look up any word used in the program.
4. wrong answers will show in text only what you clicked on.
5. Its free


also using more than one photo / video for each sign so that people will remember the sign not the photo.

any way , after I write the base set up . its going to be pretty fast to ad to it. so RIGHT NOW . Is the time for any input , Ideas suggestions ...

Deafness

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cool scary guy

No input at all? I'm starting the finial scripting tonight. and. The volunteers are coming Sunday.

so if you have any ideas now would be the tine,

saywhatkid

I don't really have any suggestions. Most of these members learned ASL at an early age. I don't think they needed an ASL course. Just wanted to say good luck with your project.

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cool scary guy

i didn't get to learn when i was young . It wasn't unto that nova exploded that i needed to learn.

I'm pretty much making the program that I needed , but couldn't buy ... at any price.

saywhatkid

I am also learning as an adult, due to hearing loss. Glad you are inspired to do this.

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KristinaB

I never got the chance to learn when I needed to. I am struggling to learn now.

cool scary guy

you wanna help test it.

Bottesini

I would help test it, but I don't understand what it is going to be.

cool scary guy

more or less , video game style flash cards. but set up in an order that forces you to recall the sign not the card.

I wanted to have a demo of the finger spelling part .,finished last weekend but, the snowed stopped the models form coming over to film the live parts of it.

Bottesini

I can probably be a tester when you are ready.

KristinaB

I will be happy to.

lpmegs

That sounds really cool! i just started today and am anxious to know more.

cayisgreat

I would also be interested in that, sounds great. I can't believe Rosetta Stone hasn't done it yet.

GrendelQ

Hey CSG, if you need any hearing people whose ASL needs a LOT of work, or deaf 4 YOs with age-appropriate ASL who put their parents to shame with their grasp of the language, I'd love to test at any stage of your dev.

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cool scary guy

i'm not sure whats age-appropriate for a 4YO but i'm trying to keep everything pg-13 or under.

I have the base program working. but it snowed the day that the models were going to come over to film the signs.

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.The test demo for the finger spelling part is back up,
http://twilightarms.com/asl/u1.html
This is only a test posted to get feed back, and suggestions.

cool scary guy

Here is a sample of how its going to look and work. its just what I'm useing to work out the bugs a lot of its going to change when I start adding signs to it.

http://twilightarms.com/asl/start.swf

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.The test demo for the finger spelling part is back up,
http://twilightarms.com/asl/u1.html
This is only a test posted to get feed back, and suggestions.

cayisgreat

This looks great! I can see people actually using this. I got all the letters right too, yay!

cool scary guy

I'm thinking about making the signs on it match the Vocabulary part of lifeprint.com's classes so that people can use both at the same time.
... but I'm not sure how that will go over.

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.The test demo for the finger spelling part is back up,
http://twilightarms.com/asl/u1.html
This is only a test posted to get feed back, and suggestions.

KristinaB

This is looking good. I am looking forward to helping you test it and learning in the process.

cayisgreat

Well, you could always do that, but just add in additional signs. My "Gallaudet survival guide to signing guide" has 95% of the lifeprint signs, with additions.

tigersharkdude

I would gladly be a tester as I know absolutely any real signing.

Also on the first screens the word "many" is misspelled "miny"

EDIT: once "she" starts with the alphabet she is going fairly fast for a first timer like myself

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jillio

If you decide to market for a younger population like that, please get someone to advise on the ways to make it developmentally appropriate for specific age groups.

webexplorer

I noticed that some spellings are too flat such as C, D, E, and F. I am aware that you are still working on your program. Just keep up your work. I think that your program is really excellence. Just avoid too primitive in some ways.

I would suggest you to add a search box to look up a word because some people have no patience to browse it.

By the way, I love it.

Bottesini

It does seem like it will be fun when it is fleshed out more.

"Phrases" is the spelling of the word on the front page.

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cool scary guy

on the first screens the word "many" is misspelled "miny"... once "she" starts with the alphabet she is going fairly fast for a first timer...."Phrases" is the spelling of the word on the front page.......That's the kind of help that I need.

I'm going for 14yo and up. but I'm trying to keep it safe for younger ones.

the 1st 2 models signers are coming tomorrow to start replacing the cartoons with real photos and/or videos.

Do you guys think it would be better to do 4 signs on the video at a time with flash cards between ? or does 8 seam ok ?

and when you get one wrong do you think it shows the English test for the sign long enough?

BTW. I am very interested in what 1st time signers think.

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.The test demo for the finger spelling part is back up,
http://twilightarms.com/asl/u1.html
This is only a test posted to get feed back, and suggestions.

cayisgreat

I'm a beginner, and I think the signing speed is fine, but majority rule says you should probably slow it down a bit. Maybe somehow have an option to do it in slow mo? I don't know if that's even possible.

I don't normally correct deaf/hoh people unless they ask, but since you did:

On the directions page, you've got "appear" as "appiear" and "onto" as "unto." ... “breaking” as “braking,” “practice” as “practus” “cristmas” as “Christmas”,” also there’s “signd” under MODEL/SIGNERS instead of "signed". On TESTERS/PROOFES there’s “englash” instead of “English” “translactions” instead of “translations,” and “acaracy” instead of “accuracy.”

I misunderstood. You mean, 4 signs, and then flashcards to see which you remember? Definitely just 4 then, maybe 5. 8 would be way too confusing, I think, if I'm understanding this correctly. I think the English translation for when you get the letter wrong should stay just a little bit longer, because it’s sort of hard to see it sometimes in the little window. Either making it longer, or making it flash across the whole screen would be better IMO.


HTH!

lovezebras

wow that was good I really liked it I only know how to fingerspell my name and know a few signs and i thought it was pretty good! I'd love to help you test it and learn a bit at the same time!!

tigersharkdude

Also on the home page where it says "this is only a fuctions test"
fuctions should be "FUNCTIONS"

i really like it and would love to be a beta tester

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KYhorseygirl

I was actually Google searching for a Rosetta Stone product teaching ASL, and came across your post. I am not deaf nor do I know anyone intimately that is, but I am very interested in learning at least some basic foundations. In my line of work being able to communicate effectively with as many people as possible is very important, and something that is important to me as a person. I'd be happy to beta and offer my advice as a beginner, but I am mostly just here to say "go for it!" because many people like myself are interested in this. I have several books on ASL, but nothing beats interaction and exercises.

cool scary guy

Google has already picked it up, cool.

basic foundations are pretty much what I'm going for . I to have several books on ASl but they seam to contradict each other.

I've been trying to shoot video for it today but of course ... it snowed.

as a side note I need to find some local ASL students to shoot the videos , models are handy but I have to show them every sign for every shot... really slows me down.

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http://twilightarms.com/asl/u1.html
This is only a test posted to get feed back, and suggestions.