faire_jour

I am starting classes again in January. I will be setting out to become a Teacher of the Deaf!!

I figure I might as well get paid for all the information I already know! My first order of business will be figuring out the age group I want to focus on. I am leaning toward the 0-3 age group, because the beginning is so important for deaf children, but then I think about the kiddos who get "left behind" because of language delays or late ID, and I think that would be the most worthwhile......

My daughter's teacher was the one who suggested it, but I think I have been considering it for a long time.

Deafness

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inmate23

good for u.

please dont be one of thesemy kid has a ci so i no everthing types.

because if u do u can really skrew a kid by being like that

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faire_jour

The whole point would be to be a teacher....I guess I don't understand what you mean.....

Lighthouse77

He is talking about being one of the teacher who think they know more than the parents or kids as far as what is best for them. There are teachers who will push CI and such.

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souggy

Translation:

One question, where are you planning to get your teaching degree from?

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faire_jour

Sorry, had issues with this post.

I will be attending the University of Utah. They have had a teacher of the deaf program for many years.

Bottesini

[quote=faire_jour;1430966] Where is the answer?

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jillio

Congratulations. Where will you be attending?

One suggestion though. If you go back to school thinking you already know all there is to kinow, and only want to credential to get paid for it, chances are great that you will be unteachable. That doesn't bode very well for the future of deaf ed. We need open minded educators. We already have plenty who think they know it all.

inmate23

yes thank you lighthouse77

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shel90

Good luck! I went into Deaf ed thinking I knew it all. I finished it with a completely different perspective. It was a great learning experience and helped me to analyze myself and why I was who I was.

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faire_jour

Where did I say that I know it all??? I said "all that I know", meaning that I have learned many things on my journey, and could use some of that knowledge to help others on their path.

I think that your remark is extremely rude and uncalled for, and not based in any kind of truth.

souggy

Um... every high school counsellors say that to students before they go off to post-secondary.

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shel90

She said "if"...that's the key word. If u dont think that way, then no worries. Just that there is a history of people entering the Deaf education field thinking that they knew it all. I was one of them and I am not ashamed to admit it.

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overthepond

Congrats, You'll rock at it.
Currently I am doing course to become TA for deaf children, I am working at deaf school. I am debating between year 6,7,8's (9,10,11,12 year olds) they all want me in their class!!! I like the 6's as one of the kid has Aspregers and it was real fun working with this child although hard work, I am loving it.
I am hoping to become TOD (study at Oxford Uni) if I do well (i never worked with kids/have kids of my own so no experince with kids and is starting from stratch)

jillio

Did you see the word "if" in my post? And my remark is neither rude nor uncalled for, but simply good advise. It is the same advise I would give anyone who approached going back to school in the way that your initial post presented.

Why aren't you answering the question regarding where you will be attending school?

deafdyke

Maybe by doing this you could improve deaf education in your area!
Maybe be a bridge between oral only and Signers.

DURAY

check the job ads at Deafdigest will give an idea of what is need for the next 10 years. Personally, better stick with K-8 kids .
grade 9-12 kids will argued with you and still argued since they can sign then they go home and still argued with their deaf parents, unlike hearing kids........sigh...

Mrs Bucket

Notice the bold and underlined, "If".. jillio did not say you knew it all.

This is where you need to rein in the temper. It will not do you well because a teacher, for the Deaf or the hearing, will accept constructive criticism and not allow him/herself to emotionally respond like this manner.

Just like any college counsellor as well.

Again, the "if" word was present.

I encourage you, faire jour, to really rein in that temper if you want to become a teacher. I just notice how quick you are to defend MissKat and her education yet you are too quick to jump to assumptions. Be careful there. A well educated student pursuing a teaching career would invest energy well. I wish you well.

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Cheri

Wow! Congratulations on wanting to become a teacher of the deaf, I wish you all the best. Keep me update, I'll love to hear how you did.

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JennyB

This is one of my thoughts as a future career, though I would be more interested in working with Deaf-plus or Deaf and disabled kids.

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CJB

What does "Deaf-plus" mean?

souggy

CP, blindness, autism, Down's syndrome...

There's also "vanilla deaf" meaning someone who is just deaf without any additional "disability" or complications since they are seen as "rare" in the education field.

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Mrs Bucket

As an advocate, I need to educate and empower you about the "Deaf-Plus" word.

Please do not use this word anymore as it is very offensive to both me and the general Deaf community that has some disabilities.

We do not see the general community such as the hearing people being called "Hearing-Plus" so this is why we encourage other people to refrain from using "Deaf-Plus".

It is unfortunately the system decided to mislabel the Deaf person with CP, blindness, learning disorders as "Deaf-Plus". This is very self-depreciating and allows others to look down at the individual.

Feedback for you..

Proper approach - "Mrs Bucket is DeafBlind."

Wrong approach - "Mrs Bucket is Deaf-Plus."

See the difference between those two? This is where we have to learn more about the individual who's Deaf and has an additional disability. We cannot mislabel the Deaf individual as the individual already has a label. We need to ask him/herself who he/she is.

Hope this helps, smile.

Remember I live near you & we can get together and put our advocating minds together!

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Cheri

What's wrong with her defending her own daughter? I defend both of my sons when it comes to education too. Isn't it important to get involved with your children's education? I don't see how discussing about her daughter has anything to do with her wanting to become a teacher of the deaf.

And speaking of "temper" Everyone loses their temper even children, parents, teachers, students, boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, Law officers, civilians list goes on. No matter what the situation is or who is right or wrong there is always a breaking point where there will be confrontation. It's part of being human.

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Mrs Bucket

Boundaries. The word is important when one wants to become a teacher.

Professionalism is very vital. If a teacher meddles personal affairs with her professional career, she is better off not being a teacher.

Discussing her daughter was only an example of how quick she loses her temper. Remember, faire_jour opened the door of discussing why she wanted to be a teacher because her daughter's teacher suggested it.

It's not often faire_jour uses her daughter as a topic of discussion.

A teacher, especially for the Deaf, has no place in the school system if he/she has a temper and knows about this.

A teacher for the Deaf MUST ooze patience.

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souggy

To be honest, when I first saw "Deaf-Plus" last Friday on the activity guideline for the local Deaf centre (with the big D), I almost revolted and wanted to puke. I never came across that term. I means I know educators use "vanilla deaf," but "deaf plus"... wow...

Okay, if you developed "disability" later in life, I can understand, but for the cognitionally "disabled" or early "disabled," it's a slap in the face because they never really got to grow up to miss what they are supposedly losing out on.

I went there to get tickets for an ASL play, almost left as soon as I saw that because I was offended at the implied meaning; only thing that stopped me from leaving when I saw that it was meant to be a support group for people who developed conditions later in life (ie. elderly deaf people.)

But still... I I don't get offended easily, but man... that one made me want to take it out on people and explode on them.

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JennyB

I am 100% with you on that and I too find it to be quite offensive when someone refers to me as Deaf-plus. I am Deaf and disabled. They are separate identities and although Deaf is still my primary identity, I have a disabled identity too and I am involved in the disabled community.

However, the reason why I use Deaf-Plus in addition to Deaf and disabled, is because I know some people who identify as Deaf-plus. I have been taken down in different Deaf rights meetings for only saying Deaf and disabled and I have had mega debates with members of our community here in Toronto about the term.

I know at least 10 people who actually identify as Deaf-Plus and am not going to discredit someones identity for sake of political correctness in the eyes of a few others.

Whenever I meet someone with this identity I always question them as to of why, and most have told me because the 'Plus" part isn't part of their identity. I don't need to know what the "plus" is in this context but I need to know that it is there. I have to respect that choice.

I am heavily involved in the disabled community too, and while we don't say hearing-plus there are other terms like multiple exceptionalities. You need to remember the cultural difference. In the hearing world, and in English we do say "Deaf with multiple exceptionalities", translate that into ASL and you get Deaf-Plus. It is a case of ASL gloss being used in English. If you were to sign multiple-exceptionalities half of the Deaf community would not understand that concept - because ASL conceptually recognizes it as Deaf-plus. It is a translation thing.

So yes, I understand your point. I too resent being called Deaf-Plus because that is not how I choose to identify myself. I need to respect others and respect ASL though.

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overthepond

Deaf-plus is used in UK too and I don't like it either. I found out only recently!
I prefer to refer a person for example "this ladyis deaf and uses wheelchair " So the opposite knows that the person has additional needs other than deafness.

I work with deaf children with additional needs (CMV, CP, Aspregers etc), I always refer them as M is deaf with/and has so so.

shel90

First time I have heard of that term! That's a new one to me and I am with you, guys. I dont like it either.

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Lissa

I have never heard of deaf-plus but i dont like the sound of it. Why cant you just say so and so is deaf and has a ......disability

Good luck to Faire Jour on her education to become a TOD

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