Bizarre experience with campus groups

JennyB · 09-20-2009, 01:36 AM

I was at a little student group conference today for group leaders (I am the president for the ASL and Deaf Culture Club at my uni) and I had the most bizarre experiences with the people there.

For starters this woman runs up to me and says "I know you!", I had no idea who she was and asked where we had met and her response was "we haven't but you are Deaf...you're name is...um...Julia?" and I corrected her "No, Jenny, where did we meet?", and she said "we haven't met but you are Deaf, I know who you are!". So weird. I had two terps all day, one of them who was new two working with me (who was interpreting this odd interaction) and the other was standing in my sight line just behind the woman she is used to interpreting for me at University and found this all some what amusing (because this sort of thing happens often enough for me). I couldn't keep a straight face. I kept looking at the interpreter with a sarcastic "what the hell?" kind of face.

Then I finish registering and this same woman asked my interpreter if she would write my name on a name tag for me. the interpreter obviously said "NO!" and I had already done it myself. The woman seemed shocked I wasn't illiterate. It was just so strange.

Then students from other groups were saying things like "It inspires me that you are here today" and other equally odd things.

I sometimes resent my mainstream campus with a passion. My large, highly ranked and respected campus. For a bunch of smart people they are fairly stupid.

deafdyke · 09-20-2009, 02:05 AM

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Then students from other groups were saying things like "It inspires me that you are here today"

Ah god don't you just HATE that? Hello....we're human too! Why should we receive kudos/laurels for doing something that anyone does?

JennyB · 09-20-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

Ah god don't you just HATE that? Hello....we're human too! Why should we receive kudos/laurels for doing something that anyone does?

They are just never exposed to it and for them I am some fascinating specimen. It drives me nuts! There are roughly 55,000 students at my school, of that 3 of us are Deaf. Of the 3 of us that are Deaf I am the only undergrad and the 2 grad students...well one of them isn't even in the country for the next few months and is done her courses and the other is part time only and they are both in the same faculty. I am an anomaly on campus and they just don't know what to do with me.

***VamPyroX*** · 09-20-2009, 03:09 AM

Eh? That person doesn't make sense saying that.

How can you know someone and then say you don't, but keep saying you do?

Anyways, I've had weird experiences with various campus groups... but it's for a number of reasons. One is their lack of parliamentarian procedure.

One time, I attended a deaf club meeting. During that meeting, parliamentarian procedure was not followed. They did have an agenda posted, but it wasn't followed properly. It was difficult to follow what was going on because everyone kept arguing and the sergeant-at-arms wasn't doing his job. Unfortunately, the student advisor was not at the meeting to advise. When the student advisor found out that I was at the meeting, he asked me what happened. I told him what happened and he talked with the club executive board members about it. Some of those members then yelled at me saying that I had no right to interfere because I was not of their race. (This was a deaf club for a non-white race.) I was then made unwelcome to their future meetings.

jillio · 09-20-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

They are just never exposed to it and for them I am some fascinating specimen. It drives me nuts! There are roughly 55,000 students at my school, of that 3 of us are Deaf. Of the 3 of us that are Deaf I am the only undergrad and the 2 grad students...well one of them isn't even in the country for the next few months and is done her courses and the other is part time only and they are both in the same faculty. I am an anomaly on campus and they just don't know what to do with me.

I couldn't help but chuckle at your experience, although I do know that it is irritating. People going out of their way to show how accepting and tolerant they are always end up falling all over the place and making a fool of themselves.

JennyB · 09-20-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I couldn't help but chuckle at your experience, although I do know that it is irritating. People going out of their way to show how accepting and tolerant they are always end up falling all over the place and making a fool of themselves.

I agree, it is kind of amusing. I used to be nice about it and smile and nod. Now I give them the "you're a complete idiot" face and normally start to mock them in ASL privately.

One of my favorite campus stupid people moments to date was when I didn't have a terp and went to see a prof. I knew the prof pretty well so I went ahead and spoke. She looked like she had seen a ghost. Her eyes got huge, she started to shake, she got a nervous smile on her face...then she walked backwards - keeping eye contact and the terrified face - fumbled around for a piece of paper and pen (keeping eye contact and not looking at what she was grabbing at) when she finally got it she slowly handed it to me and gestured in a quick awkward way that I should write.

We wrote notes back and forth after that and that night she emailed me apologizing but she was shocked that I spoke and was not expecting it. Soo funny.

souggy · 09-20-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

I agree, it is kind of amusing. I used to be nice about it and smile and nod. Now I give them the "you're a complete idiot" face and normally start to mock them in ASL privately.

Starting to do that more and more.

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One of my favorite campus stupid people moments to date was when I didn't have a terp and went to see a prof. I knew the prof pretty well so I went ahead and spoke. She looked like she had seen a ghost. Her eyes got huge, she started to shake, she got a nervous smile on her face...then she walked backwards - keeping eye contact and the terrified face - fumbled around for a piece of paper and pen (keeping eye contact and not looking at what she was grabbing at) when she finally got it she slowly handed it to me and gestured in a quick awkward way that I should write.

Probably was an atheist, and saw "God" giving you the power to speak before her own eyes.

I means... how are you suppose to react when someone talk to you for the first time? LOL

jillio · 09-20-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

I agree, it is kind of amusing. I used to be nice about it and smile and nod. Now I give them the "you're a complete idiot" face and normally start to mock them in ASL privately.

One of my favorite campus stupid people moments to date was when I didn't have a terp and went to see a prof. I knew the prof pretty well so I went ahead and spoke. She looked like she had seen a ghost. Her eyes got huge, she started to shake, she got a nervous smile on her face...then she walked backwards - keeping eye contact and the terrified face - fumbled around for a piece of paper and pen (keeping eye contact and not looking at what she was grabbing at) when she finally got it she slowly handed it to me and gestured in a quick awkward way that I should write.

We wrote notes back and forth after that and that night she emailed me apologizing but she was shocked that I spoke and was not expecting it. Soo funny.

LOL! Depending on my mood, I will either let goofs like that pass by, or enjoy very much putting them on the spot. Usually the latter.

It still amazes me how many professors make idiots of themselves when a student with a disability shows up in their classroom. I have to admit I get a kick out of messing with those profs.

jillio · 09-20-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by souggy

Starting to do that more and more.

Probably was an atheist, and saw "God" giving you the power to speak before her own eyes.

I means... how are you suppose to react when someone talk to you for the first time? LOL

JennyB is AD's own version of the burning bush!

Bottesini · 09-20-2009, 03:13 PM

I think it is more fun just to string them along and tease them good humoredly.

Beowulf · 09-20-2009, 03:26 PM

I am reminded of the time in a Mizzou class (before there were interpreters) when a film was being shown. The professor turned to me and asked if I needed the sound of the film cranked up. There was a blind student in the room, and a student sitting next to me piped up, "Yes! And why not make the room brighter so (blind student) could see better?" The professor's face turned red and the class giggled.
Wish I said that, lol.

jillio · 09-20-2009, 04:29 PM

LOL at Beowulf! Not long ago, one of our blind students came into the office, and an academic advisor wanted to get his attention. She started waving her arms in the air!

I said, "No, Diane...we wave at the deaf students. We call out to the blind students." The expression on her face was soooo funny...she looked like she would like to sink through the floor.

Jiro · 09-20-2009, 05:21 PM

maybe "i know you!" from AD

JennyB · 09-20-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

maybe "i know you!" from AD

This girl was hearing and clueless. The kind of person who I would assume could misplace her nose and look for it for hours.

Bottesini · 09-20-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

This girl was hearing and clueless. The kind of person who I would assume could misplace her nose and look for it for hours.

souggy · 09-20-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

This girl was hearing and clueless. The kind of person who I would assume could misplace her nose and look for it for hours.

Done that once.

Of course I was hopped up on morphine... and codeine.

JennyB · 09-20-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

LOL at Beowulf! Not long ago, one of our blind students came into the office, and an academic advisor wanted to get his attention. She started waving her arms in the air!

I said, "No, Diane...we wave at the deaf students. We call out to the blind students." The expression on her face was soooo funny...she looked like she would like to sink through the floor.

OMG. The rate at which deaf and blind get confused is appalling. I have had people attempt to me guide me before, I have had people assume I know braille (and I do, but not the point), I have had many more encounters which I can't recall too. I do have low-vision but with my glasses do just fine for the most part and I certainly don't do anything which to a hearing person would make them assume I am blind! My interpreters know because they need to sit closer and stuff, but the hearing people have no idea. Sigh.

sima1289 · 09-20-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

OMG. The rate at which deaf and blind get confused is appalling. I have had people attempt to me guide me before, I have had people assume I know braille (and I do, but not the point), I have had many more encounters which I can't recall too. I do have low-vision but with my glasses do just fine for the most part and I certainly don't do anything which to a hearing person would make them assume I am blind! My interpreters know because they need to sit closer and stuff, but the hearing people have no idea. Sigh.

i remember seeing a video on youtube of marlee matlin talking about the odd experiences she's had, and she's had a few blind/deaf (for lack of a better word) encounters...here's the video :-)

YouTube - Marlee Matlin: "I Just Have to Laugh"

deafdyke · 09-20-2009, 11:11 PM

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one of our blind students came into the office, and an academic advisor wanted to get his attention. She started waving her arms in the air! I said, "No, Diane...we wave at the deaf students. We call out to the blind students."

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA.............I just love clueless hearing people.

JennyB · 09-20-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sima1289

i remember seeing a video on youtube of marlee matlin talking about the odd experiences she's had, and she's had a few blind/deaf (for lack of a better word) encounters...here's the video :-)

That is fantastic!

All Deafies should get together an compile of book of "stupid hearing people" stories!

sima1289 · 09-20-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

That is fantastic!

All Deafies should get together an compile of book of "stupid hearing people" stories!

it just shows that even if you're famous, these things happen

and slightly

i'm hearing, but marlee matlin is 1 of my role models

JennyB · 09-21-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sima1289

it just shows that even if you're famous, these things happen

and slightly

i'm hearing, but marlee matlin is 1 of my role models

Not all hearing people are completely ignorant...but there are many! I have some Deaf people who are equally clueless when it comes to disability things...I think it is just anything outside our realm of experience. I am sometimes thankful for my personal experiences with disability, Deafness, and other minority or less prevalent groups. I like to think I don't do as many ignorant things as others.

defgrl · 09-29-2009, 01:13 PM

Here is something that happened to me recently. A new (location) of a well-known bookstore chain opened recently in a nearby location. It was "opening day," so there were lots of people, etc. The place had bare floors (mostly), no sound-absorbing ceiling tile, and this LOUD music (torturous "noise" for me) was "blaring" all the while. I went over to the "buy table" to sell a few books that I was done with. A very pleasant man began talking to me. I could see his face, and figured out most of what he said. He then proceeded to tell me that I would be "paged" by name (over the intercom, loudspeaker) when my "offer" was ready. I pointed to my ear (hoping he would FINALLY see the hearing aids) and told him I would NOT be able to hear my name called in all that background noise. He then proceeded to WRITE THE SAME THING on a piece of paper. That I would be "paged" when my "offer" was ready. I decided to try the "broken record" approach. I AGAIN pointed to my ear (hoping he would figure out that I had a "hearing problem") and calmly and politely said the same thing. I finally just told him I would browse and come back in about 15 minutes. That seemed to work well enough.

The next time I went in there, I took a Hearing friend with me who has rather good hearing. I did all the explaining AGAIN, when I went to the "buy table" and the young lady was nice, but seemed genuinely puzzled about how I would know to come back for my "offer," since I could not be paged. I just told her I would come back in about 15 minutes and check. When I went back to check, I dealt with the same pleasant young lady. She asked me what my (first) name was, and then asked the man next to her (who had waited on me the first time) if my "offer" was ready yet. Believe it or not, this guy said that he had just paged me a few minutes before. By this time, I could hardly keep a straight face. I thought about "messing with their minds," but I decided not to. They weren't really offensive, I think they just weren't using any common sense. My psychologist, who is HOH himself, uses a hearing aid and signs, got a big kick out of this story.

CJB · 09-30-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

I was at a little student group conference today for group leaders (I am the president for the ASL and Deaf Culture Club at my uni) and I had the most bizarre experiences with the people there.

For starters this woman runs up to me and says "I know you!", I had no idea who she was and asked where we had met and her response was "we haven't but you are Deaf...you're name is...um...Julia?" and I corrected her "No, Jenny, where did we meet?", and she said "we haven't met but you are Deaf, I know who you are!". So weird. I had two terps all day, one of them who was new two working with me (who was interpreting this odd interaction) and the other was standing in my sight line just behind the woman she is used to interpreting for me at University and found this all some what amusing (because this sort of thing happens often enough for me). I couldn't keep a straight face. I kept looking at the interpreter with a sarcastic "what the hell?" kind of face.

Then I finish registering and this same woman asked my interpreter if she would write my name on a name tag for me. the interpreter obviously said "NO!" and I had already done it myself. The woman seemed shocked I wasn't illiterate. It was just so strange.

Then students from other groups were saying things like "It inspires me that you are here today" and other equally odd things.

I sometimes resent my mainstream campus with a passion. My large, highly ranked and respected campus. For a bunch of smart people they are fairly stupid.

The stupid "Oh my god you're amazing because you're Deaf and not totally and completely dysfunctional!" attitude.

CJB · 09-30-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

They are just never exposed to it and for them I am some fascinating specimen. It drives me nuts! There are roughly 55,000 students at my school, of that 3 of us are Deaf. Of the 3 of us that are Deaf I am the only undergrad and the 2 grad students...well one of them isn't even in the country for the next few months and is done her courses and the other is part time only and they are both in the same faculty. I am an anomaly on campus and they just don't know what to do with me.

I know what you mean. I'm a total anomaly everywhere I go too. I get people coming up to me telling me "God bless you." My wife gets people praising her for having the heart to marry someone like me.

CJB · 09-30-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

LOL at Beowulf! Not long ago, one of our blind students came into the office, and an academic advisor wanted to get his attention. She started waving her arms in the air!

I said, "No, Diane...we wave at the deaf students. We call out to the blind students." The expression on her face was soooo funny...she looked like she would like to sink through the floor.

CJB · 09-30-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JennyB

OMG. The rate at which deaf and blind get confused is appalling. I have had people attempt to me guide me before, I have had people assume I know braille (and I do, but not the point), I have had many more encounters which I can't recall too. I do have low-vision but with my glasses do just fine for the most part and I certainly don't do anything which to a hearing person would make them assume I am blind! My interpreters know because they need to sit closer and stuff, but the hearing people have no idea. Sigh.

Sorry, we deafblind don't help much.

When I was hearing blind people treated me like I was deaf all the time. Yelling at me, telling me they only know a few signs...

CJB · 09-30-2009, 01:40 AM

Can we get a transcription on the video for the DB members?

CJB · 09-30-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by defgrl

Here is something that happened to me recently. A new (location) of a well-known bookstore chain opened recently in a nearby location. It was "opening day," so there were lots of people, etc. The place had bare floors (mostly), no sound-absorbing ceiling tile, and this LOUD music (torturous "noise" for me) was "blaring" all the while. I went over to the "buy table" to sell a few books that I was done with. A very pleasant man began talking to me. I could see his face, and figured out most of what he said. He then proceeded to tell me that I would be "paged" by name (over the intercom, loudspeaker) when my "offer" was ready. I pointed to my ear (hoping he would FINALLY see the hearing aids) and told him I would NOT be able to hear my name called in all that background noise. He then proceeded to WRITE THE SAME THING on a piece of paper. That I would be "paged" when my "offer" was ready. I decided to try the "broken record" approach. I AGAIN pointed to my ear (hoping he would figure out that I had a "hearing problem") and calmly and politely said the same thing. I finally just told him I would browse and come back in about 15 minutes. That seemed to work well enough.

The next time I went in there, I took a Hearing friend with me who has rather good hearing. I did all the explaining AGAIN, when I went to the "buy table" and the young lady was nice, but seemed genuinely puzzled about how I would know to come back for my "offer," since I could not be paged. I just told her I would come back in about 15 minutes and check. When I went back to check, I dealt with the same pleasant young lady. She asked me what my (first) name was, and then asked the man next to her (who had waited on me the first time) if my "offer" was ready yet. Believe it or not, this guy said that he had just paged me a few minutes before. By this time, I could hardly keep a straight face. I thought about "messing with their minds," but I decided not to. They weren't really offensive, I think they just weren't using any common sense. My psychologist, who is HOH himself, uses a hearing aid and signs, got a big kick out of this story.

The same kind of thing happened to me at the SSA office the other day. Some people just don't get it, do they.

deafskeptic · 09-30-2009, 07:22 PM

I'll have to tell my story here. There was a certain dim-witted girl who like to play an online MUD called MUME and she'd spam stuff about the Hardy Boys (a pro rassling team) and one day she wanted to know how I could play MUME when she learned I'm deaf rl. She seemed to think I was also blind because I'm deaf and it took several minutes of explaining that not all deaf are latter day Helen Kellers and that some have good eyesight.

That same person wanted to know what country England was in. I'm not joking. My jaw dropped when I saw that in the game.

09-20-2009, 01:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
JennyB Deaf Activist! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 783	Bizarre experience with campus groups I was at a little student group conference today for group leaders (I am the president for the ASL and Deaf Culture Club at my uni) and I had the most bizarre experiences with the people there. For starters this woman runs up to me and says "I know you!", I had no idea who she was and asked where we had met and her response was "we haven't but you are Deaf...you're name is...um...Julia?" and I corrected her "No, Jenny, where did we meet?", and she said "we haven't met but you are Deaf, I know who you are!". So weird. I had two terps all day, one of them who was new two working with me (who was interpreting this odd interaction) and the other was standing in my sight line just behind the woman she is used to interpreting for me at University and found this all some what amusing (because this sort of thing happens often enough for me). I couldn't keep a straight face. I kept looking at the interpreter with a sarcastic "what the hell?" kind of face. Then I finish registering and this same woman asked my interpreter if she would write my name on a name tag for me. the interpreter obviously said "NO!" and I had already done it myself. The woman seemed shocked I wasn't illiterate. It was just so strange. Then students from other groups were saying things like "It inspires me that you are here today" and other equally odd things. I sometimes resent my mainstream campus with a passion. My large, highly ranked and respected campus. For a bunch of smart people they are fairly stupid. __________________ Queer, Deaf, radical disability theorist, feminist, activist, advocate, and linguist. Fear me! Jenny~B http://journysofadeafgirl.blogspot.com/

09-20-2009, 03:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 31,457	Eh? That person doesn't make sense saying that. How can you know someone and then say you don't, but keep saying you do? Anyways, I've had weird experiences with various campus groups... but it's for a number of reasons. One is their lack of parliamentarian procedure. One time, I attended a deaf club meeting. During that meeting, parliamentarian procedure was not followed. They did have an agenda posted, but it wasn't followed properly. It was difficult to follow what was going on because everyone kept arguing and the sergeant-at-arms wasn't doing his job. Unfortunately, the student advisor was not at the meeting to advise. When the student advisor found out that I was at the meeting, he asked me what happened. I told him what happened and he talked with the club executive board members about it. Some of those members then yelled at me saying that I had no right to interfere because I was not of their race. (This was a deaf club for a non-white race.) I was then made unwelcome to their future meetings. __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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09-29-2009, 01:13 PM	#23 (permalink)
defgrl Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 82	Go figure Here is something that happened to me recently. A new (location) of a well-known bookstore chain opened recently in a nearby location. It was "opening day," so there were lots of people, etc. The place had bare floors (mostly), no sound-absorbing ceiling tile, and this LOUD music (torturous "noise" for me) was "blaring" all the while. I went over to the "buy table" to sell a few books that I was done with. A very pleasant man began talking to me. I could see his face, and figured out most of what he said. He then proceeded to tell me that I would be "paged" by name (over the intercom, loudspeaker) when my "offer" was ready. I pointed to my ear (hoping he would FINALLY see the hearing aids) and told him I would NOT be able to hear my name called in all that background noise. He then proceeded to WRITE THE SAME THING on a piece of paper. That I would be "paged" when my "offer" was ready. I decided to try the "broken record" approach. I AGAIN pointed to my ear (hoping he would figure out that I had a "hearing problem") and calmly and politely said the same thing. I finally just told him I would browse and come back in about 15 minutes. That seemed to work well enough. The next time I went in there, I took a Hearing friend with me who has rather good hearing. I did all the explaining AGAIN, when I went to the "buy table" and the young lady was nice, but seemed genuinely puzzled about how I would know to come back for my "offer," since I could not be paged. I just told her I would come back in about 15 minutes and check. When I went back to check, I dealt with the same pleasant young lady. She asked me what my (first) name was, and then asked the man next to her (who had waited on me the first time) if my "offer" was ready yet. Believe it or not, this guy said that he had just paged me a few minutes before. By this time, I could hardly keep a straight face. I thought about "messing with their minds," but I decided not to. They weren't really offensive, I think they just weren't using any common sense. My psychologist, who is HOH himself, uses a hearing aid and signs, got a big kick out of this story.

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09-20-2009, 03:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,921	I am reminded of the time in a Mizzou class (before there were interpreters) when a film was being shown. The professor turned to me and asked if I needed the sound of the film cranked up. There was a blind student in the room, and a student sitting next to me piped up, "Yes! And why not make the room brighter so (blind student) could see better?" The professor's face turned red and the class giggled. Wish I said that, lol.

09-20-2009, 04:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32,396	LOL at Beowulf! Not long ago, one of our blind students came into the office, and an academic advisor wanted to get his attention. She started waving her arms in the air! I said, "No, Diane...we wave at the deaf students. We call out to the blind students." The expression on her face was soooo funny...she looked like she would like to sink through the floor.

09-30-2009, 01:40 AM	#28 (permalink)
CJB deafblind writer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,409	Can we get a transcription on the video for the DB members?

09-30-2009, 07:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
deafskeptic Empress Skeptia Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,528	I'll have to tell my story here. There was a certain dim-witted girl who like to play an online MUD called MUME and she'd spam stuff about the Hardy Boys (a pro rassling team) and one day she wanted to know how I could play MUME when she learned I'm deaf rl. She seemed to think I was also blind because I'm deaf and it took several minutes of explaining that not all deaf are latter day Helen Kellers and that some have good eyesight. That same person wanted to know what country England was in. I'm not joking. My jaw dropped when I saw that in the game. __________________ Left ear implanted with Med-El on April 24 2007. Activated on May 9th.

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