Attention deaf adults/Parents with deaf children Methodologies:

Cheri · 10-07-2008, 11:57 PM

Before I begin, This thread is relating to individuals who are deaf, hard of hearing and Parents of deaf/cochlear implant children. If you are not deaf, hard of hearing or not a Parents of deaf/cochlear implant children please refrain from posting on this thread. Thank you in advance.

This is basically a personal experience thread, I would like you to vote and tell me what personal experience of educational approach did you had while growing up?

And Parents of deaf/cochlear implant children-What approach (methodology) have you enrolled your child in?

Bottesini · 10-08-2008, 12:00 AM

I was mainstreamed and oral. My hearing loss is in the severe/profound range, so I am not totally deaf.

The only sign I really knew as a kid was just from playing with other kids, and a little bit from visits with my grandparents. None in school at all.

Still taking ASL classes right now.

Edit = To help Daredevel7 with her research, I am prelingual deaf.

Cheri · 10-08-2008, 12:04 AM

I forgot to add that this poll is a multiple choice poll in case anyone had more than one method of educational approaches.

Daredevel7 · 10-08-2008, 12:10 AM

You know what kind of statistics Id be really curious about?
% of prelingual deaf people who were raised oral only and % of prelingual deaf people who were raised oral only who were happy with it.

Actually... that would apply for any method. Doesnt have to be oral only.

Angel · 10-08-2008, 12:13 AM

-Oral
-Cued Speech
-Total Communication (in high school)

jillio · 10-08-2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daredevel7

You know what kind of statistics Id be really curious about?
% of prelingual deaf people who were raised oral only and % of prelingual deaf people who were raised oral only who were happy with it.

Actually... that would apply for any method. Doesnt have to be oral only.

That would be a very interesting study, indeed. We have had some informal data right here on AD. It would be interesting to compile the result of the many, many comments that have been made in regard to that question.

Cloggy · 10-08-2008, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

And Parents of deaf/cochlear implant children-What approach (methodology) have you enrolled your child in?

We started with sign-language and she was in a "deaf" kindergarden from age 1-1/2 (when we found out she was deaf) until she was 4. From there on she has been in mainstream education.

2008-08: Mainstream School (6y. old)
2006-10: All-hearing Kindergarten (4y. old)
2004-11: CI activated (27 m. old)
2004-10: Bi-lateral CI (26 m. old)
2003-08: Deaf/HOH/CI Pre-school/Kindergarten (12m. old)
2003-07: HA's fitted (11 m. old)
2003-02: Diagnosed deaf. Start sign-language (7m. old)
2002-08: Born - A fierce LION

shel90 · 10-08-2008, 06:51 AM

Oral all the way.

Daredevel7 · 10-08-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

That would be a very interesting study, indeed. We have had some informal data right here on AD. It would be interesting to compile the result of the many, many comments that have been made in regard to that question.

I'm not too sure if that's an accurate representation of the deaf population. To be quite honest with you, I probably would have never have gotten involved in AD if I wasn't getting a CI soon AND if I wasn't involved in a group that helps find jobs for people with various disabilities. I'm glad I did though. And also, collecting info from here IS a start.

jillio · 10-08-2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daredevel7

I'm not too sure if that's an accurate representation of the deaf population. To be quite honest with you, I probably would have never have gotten involved in AD if I wasn't getting a CI soon AND if I wasn't involved in a group that helps find jobs for people with various disabilities. I'm glad I did though. And also, collecting info from here IS a start.

A true representation would require random selection from the population as a whole. That holds true with any study. Here on AD, we do have, however, a wide spread of age and educational level, a good representation of various geographic regions (inlcuding some from outside the U.S.), various experience with various linguistic systems, and a wide range of family and social histories. I think we could get accurate data that could serve as the foundation for conclusions that could result in additional studies using randomized selection and assignment.

We must tkeep in mind, thought, that it is very difficult to design a study including randomized selection and assignment given the very nature of educational research. But the study can be designed using methodology that compensates for that fact.

***Jolie77*** · 10-08-2008, 12:10 PM

As for me, I've had 2 different methodologies while growing up.

Total Communication and BiBi were the methodologies that I've learned through.

As for my kids (yes they're deaf) - They are also with the approach of Total Communication and BiBi as well.

faire_jour · 10-08-2008, 10:24 PM

My daughter is in a bi-bi school and will be receiving a CI in a few weeks.

Byrdie714 · 10-09-2008, 09:45 AM

I grew up homeschooled.

My mother taught ASL--my grandmother taught oralism.. I guess that would be T.C.

When Ally was around--she was in a Bi-Bi program.

Jiro · 10-09-2008, 07:46 PM

I have Severe Profound hearing. I've been mainstreamed and oral all the way. It was rough....

Jiro · 10-09-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

That would be a very interesting study, indeed. We have had some informal data right here on AD. It would be interesting to compile the result of the many, many comments that have been made in regard to that question.

hey! what you doing in here!

Bottesini · 10-09-2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

hey! what you doing in here!

I love that smily. It represents my whole philosophy to life. Where did you get it?

jillio · 10-09-2008, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

hey! what you doing in here!

Lurking!

And hey! I gots a deaf kid!

Lavender · 10-09-2008, 11:39 PM

I'm all mixed up more like multiple languages: first started with Oral, ASL, SEE, and then TC.

Pepsi · 10-09-2008, 11:48 PM

Oral for me

BradB08 · 10-10-2008, 12:07 AM

Oral until age 11 and then bi-bi from then on.

Jiro · 10-10-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I love that smily. It represents my whole philosophy to life. Where did you get it?

lol Byrdie asked me that yesterday. It's from other forum that I'm a member of - ADVRider.com

EDIT: link's been corrected

moonflower · 10-10-2008, 12:37 AM

i grew up TC in mainstream schools

highlands · 10-10-2008, 07:34 AM

I grow up by oral way education

meyag2 · 10-11-2008, 03:51 PM

my parents put me in school with all the hearie kids but no sign language no speech nothing in another country. it was very frustration for me. my parents found mainstream school here in america 'elementary' for both Ddeaf/Hhoh and hearing (about 20 Ddeaf/Hhoh students, I don't remember exactly). i learned sign language late and oral at i think 8-9 yrs old. my parents didn't know where to find school for the deaf/hoh back then. i was glad to have learned sign language here in america.

flip · 10-12-2008, 11:24 AM

BILINGUAL BICULTURAL!

I have experienced TC and mainstream as well, but the part of education that was bi-bi seems to have the largest impact. I was almost put into a oral program, but my resistance was fierce

If I was born today, I doubt my skull would be left untouched and would be much more prone a early childhood without sign language. Gives one the shivers.

web730 · 10-12-2008, 10:59 PM

Went to two deaf schools... TC for first few years then BiBi all the way.

JeepGirl · 10-13-2008, 12:39 AM

grew up oral for most of my school years, til went to college became TC .. I use oral and ASL/PSE depends on who i'm talking to.

deafskeptic · 10-13-2008, 12:26 PM

I went to like 8 to 10 different schools before age 18 so I've been exposed to different approaches for the deaf. No, my family didn't move around a lot. It's just that the Richmond oral program in the early 70s had no permanent base so we might be going to a different school each year. However, we were often grouped with the kids from the last year's program so it's not like we had to sit with strangers every year.

Bi-Bi is making a comeback now and this is the only program that I haven't been in.

View Poll Results: What educational approach were you in while growing up?
Cued Speech	5	13.51%
Oral	23	62.16%
Total Communication (TC)	12	32.43%
bilingual-bicultural (Bi-Bi)	10	27.03%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

10-07-2008, 11:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,013	Attention deaf adults/Parents with deaf children Methodologies: Before I begin, This thread is relating to individuals who are deaf, hard of hearing and Parents of deaf/cochlear implant children. If you are not deaf, hard of hearing or not a Parents of deaf/cochlear implant children please refrain from posting on this thread. Thank you in advance. This is basically a personal experience thread, I would like you to vote and tell me what personal experience of educational approach did you had while growing up? And Parents of deaf/cochlear implant children-What approach (methodology) have you enrolled your child in? __________________

10-08-2008, 12:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bottesini Elf Assassin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sneaking up behind you Posts: 5,833 Blog Entries: 2	I was mainstreamed and oral. My hearing loss is in the severe/profound range, so I am not totally deaf. The only sign I really knew as a kid was just from playing with other kids, and a little bit from visits with my grandparents. None in school at all. Still taking ASL classes right now. Edit = To help Daredevel7 with her research, I am prelingual deaf. __________________ AllDeaf Last edited by Bottesini; 10-08-2008 at 10:54 AM.

10-08-2008, 12:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,013	I forgot to add that this poll is a multiple choice poll in case anyone had more than one method of educational approaches. __________________

10-08-2008, 06:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
shel90 Sun Whorshipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland Posts: 16,119 Blog Entries: 1	Oral all the way. __________________ ~Shel~ "A child educated only at school is an uneducated child." -George Santayana

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10-08-2008, 12:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Daredevel7 Adrenaline Junky Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 626	You know what kind of statistics Id be really curious about? % of prelingual deaf people who were raised oral only and % of prelingual deaf people who were raised oral only who were happy with it. Actually... that would apply for any method. Doesnt have to be oral only.

10-08-2008, 12:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Angel ♥"Concrete Angel"♥ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19,088	-Oral -Cued Speech -Total Communication (in high school)

10-08-2008, 12:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
*Jolie77* Love all, trust a few. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kentucky, USA (The Bluegrass State) Posts: 5,497	As for me, I've had 2 different methodologies while growing up. Total Communication and BiBi were the methodologies that I've learned through. As for my kids (yes they're deaf) - They are also with the approach of Total Communication and BiBi as well. __________________

10-08-2008, 10:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
faire_jour Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 579	My daughter is in a bi-bi school and will be receiving a CI in a few weeks. __________________ -Melissa Jensen Mom to Miss Kat- 5, bilateral progressive loss, just became severe-profound (implanted 11-03-08 with a right side AB, activated 11-21-08) http://misskatsmom.blogspot.com/

10-09-2008, 09:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pacific County, Washington Posts: 5,093	I grew up homeschooled. My mother taught ASL--my grandmother taught oralism.. I guess that would be T.C. When Ally was around--she was in a Bi-Bi program.

10-09-2008, 07:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 7,345	I have Severe Profound hearing. I've been mainstreamed and oral all the way. It was rough....

10-09-2008, 11:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lavender Season's Greetings Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 594	I'm all mixed up more like multiple languages: first started with Oral, ASL, SEE, and then TC. __________________

10-09-2008, 11:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
Pepsi The One and Only Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 3,398	Oral for me __________________

10-10-2008, 12:07 AM	#20 (permalink)
BradB08 You talkin' to me? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,734 Blog Entries: 1	Oral until age 11 and then bi-bi from then on.

10-10-2008, 12:37 AM	#22 (permalink)
moonflower will be very busy soon Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan Posts: 4,872	i grew up TC in mainstream schools __________________ my little niece born 11/1/08

10-10-2008, 07:34 AM	#23 (permalink)
highlands In Love & Happy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in an inland city Posts: 4,168	I grow up by oral way education __________________

10-11-2008, 03:51 PM	#24 (permalink)
meyag2 *********** Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,744	my parents put me in school with all the hearie kids but no sign language no speech nothing in another country. it was very frustration for me. my parents found mainstream school here in america 'elementary' for both Ddeaf/Hhoh and hearing (about 20 Ddeaf/Hhoh students, I don't remember exactly). i learned sign language late and oral at i think 8-9 yrs old. my parents didn't know where to find school for the deaf/hoh back then. i was glad to have learned sign language here in america. __________________ Last edited by meyag2; 10-12-2008 at 01:50 PM. Reason: remove some word.

10-12-2008, 11:24 AM	#25 (permalink)
flip Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 479	BILINGUAL BICULTURAL! I have experienced TC and mainstream as well, but the part of education that was bi-bi seems to have the largest impact. I was almost put into a oral program, but my resistance was fierce If I was born today, I doubt my skull would be left untouched and would be much more prone a early childhood without sign language. Gives one the shivers.

10-12-2008, 10:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
web730 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,820	Went to two deaf schools... TC for first few years then BiBi all the way. __________________ Last edited by web730; 10-13-2008 at 02:47 PM.

10-13-2008, 12:39 AM	#27 (permalink)
JeepGirl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In the South Posts: 6,343	grew up oral for most of my school years, til went to college became TC .. I use oral and ASL/PSE depends on who i'm talking to.

10-13-2008, 12:26 PM	#28 (permalink)
deafskeptic AAACCK! I got BORGED! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,449	I went to like 8 to 10 different schools before age 18 so I've been exposed to different approaches for the deaf. No, my family didn't move around a lot. It's just that the Richmond oral program in the early 70s had no permanent base so we might be going to a different school each year. However, we were often grouped with the kids from the last year's program so it's not like we had to sit with strangers every year. Bi-Bi is making a comeback now and this is the only program that I haven't been in. __________________ Left ear implanted with Med-El on April 24 2007. Activated on May 9th.